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Title: Be afraid, be very afraid....
Post by: sledgemeister on March 16, 2012, 04:06:12 AM
Could you ever imagine this marching down Constitution Ave in Washington?

Title: Re: Be afraid, be very afraid....
Post by: Majer on March 16, 2012, 11:10:48 AM
Isn't it nice of them to line up in neat rows, makes target alignment that much easier ;D ;D
Title: Re: Be afraid, be very afraid....
Post by: jnevis on March 16, 2012, 11:19:55 AM
And we can target them too, just like the Afghans and Iraqis:

http://www.michaelyon-online.com/insurgents-used-cell-phone-geotags-to-destroy-ah-64s-in-iraq.htm
Title: Re: Be afraid, be very afraid....
Post by: tombogan03884 on March 16, 2012, 01:01:21 PM
And we can target them too, just like the Afghans and Iraqis:

http://www.michaelyon-online.com/insurgents-used-cell-phone-geotags-to-destroy-ah-64s-in-iraq.htm

Sad part is it was probably figured out by a 14 year old while stuffed in his locker at school.   :-\

High school "Jocks" world wide need to remember, "The toes you step on today may be connected to the ass you have to kiss tomorrow"     ;D
Title: Re: Be afraid, be very afraid....
Post by: santahog on March 16, 2012, 02:14:21 PM
We would do well to remember that an army that can drill as a unit this well, can fight as a unit, dispite the battlefield "fog of war". Do not discount these people, our nations enemies..
Our commanders would sacrafice security for MWR, as detailed in the link on the AH-64s. Do you suppose that would change, as a unit, were Command to put out orders to the contrary? Not readily, I would suggest...
There's much to be learned from this thread, should pride be put aside..
Just an unwelcome thought...
Joe
Title: Re: Be afraid, be very afraid....
Post by: twyacht on March 16, 2012, 06:23:18 PM
MORE MOAB'S......



Title: Re: Be afraid, be very afraid....
Post by: robheath on March 16, 2012, 09:48:04 PM
Two things I notice...They are going to all have hyper extended kness with that Hitler inspired march and they are all the same friking higth 4'6" or so ;D
Title: Re: Be afraid, be very afraid....
Post by: tombogan03884 on March 16, 2012, 11:04:09 PM
So, you think those pilots got much flight time while this chickenshit was being prepared ?
Just cuz they're pretty don't mean they're actually worth a crap.
Title: Re: Be afraid, be very afraid....
Post by: sledgemeister on March 17, 2012, 02:33:38 AM
Even if there losses was ten to 1 they would still have enough of an army to walk over any country in the world USA included. Luckily they dont have to they just have to call in their loans. Lose a million soldiers dont worry theres another million where they come from, and another, and another and another.


Heres some interesting facts

State       Active    Reserve    Paramilitary    Total    Total per 1000 capita    Active per 1000 capita

China    2,285,000    800,000    1,500,000         4,585,000                3.4               1.7
India     1,325,000    2,142,821    1,300,586         4,768,407                3.9                1.1
Iran      523,000    1,800,000    1,510,000         3,833,000                57.7                7.9
N Korea     1,106,000    8,200,000    189,000         9,495,000                418.9                48.8
Russia    1,027,000    20,000,000 449,000         21,476,000                 153.4               7.3
Vietnam     455,000    5,000,000   40,000         5,495,000                 62                5.1
USA      1,458,219    1,458,500    11,035         2,927,754                 9.3                4.7
Title: Re: Be afraid, be very afraid....
Post by: Pathfinder on March 17, 2012, 07:44:07 AM
A couple thoughts on the video in the OP:

Them commies sure do love their pageants, don't they?

And gaudy uniforms.

Reminded me of insect colonies in its organization. Not putting the Chinese down, but it did lead to that thought, and then to Heinlein's comments about humans and insects.

The discipline that this kind of show requires is incredible, but I wonder how that would translate to the battle space? This demonstrates hours (days? Weeks? Months?) of drill practice (not spent in tactical training in military activities) where people are yelling and undoubtedly flogging for failures. In the Revolutionary War, drill like that was required to maintain unit cohesion in order to maximize firepower with the arms of the day. Today, not so much. Some drill, but not sure that drill to this level really provides value other than being very pretty. IMHO this is very specialized training - which leads me back to Heinlein.

And that leads me to wonder if the Chinese have truly abandoned the "human wave" approach to combat, since as Sledge noted there are always another million to throw in around here someplace?

Compare and contrast this drill with the nature of the assault by Dick Winters and his squad on the 3 German artillery pieces at the start of Normandy as depicted in Band of Brothers.

Is everyone in the world except the US going to bullpups? Brits, French, Israelis, Chinese? I want one!

A couple of well-placed tactical nukes would have ruined the whole parade.  :o  ::)  8)
Title: Re: Be afraid, be very afraid....
Post by: tombogan03884 on March 17, 2012, 09:15:07 AM
It's really the same type of smokescreen that caused us to lose the cold war.
China will never pose as much of a threat to us as is posed by Washington.
Title: Re: Be afraid, be very afraid....
Post by: Magoo541 on March 17, 2012, 10:46:24 AM
It's really the same type of smokescreen that caused us to lose the cold war.
China will never pose as much of a threat to us as is posed by Washington.

How do you figure we lost the Cold War?   USSR has been relegated to the history books and we are still here.

I agree with the danger to this country comes from within, much like ancient Rome we will likely crumble from within.
Title: Re: Be afraid, be very afraid....
Post by: tombogan03884 on March 17, 2012, 11:23:26 AM
How do you figure we lost the Cold War?   USSR has been relegated to the history books and we are still here.

I agree with the danger to this country comes from within, much like ancient Rome we will likely crumble from within.

Because the Cold war was not between nations.
The collapse or survival of any single entity was irrelevant.
It was a conflict between the ideologies of communism and capitalism.
With that in mind no one can be deluded enough to think Capitalism won.
Obama proves me right.
The real enemy was not the one we faced in Germany's Fulda Gap, it was the one we ignored in Berkley, and at the NY Times.