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Member Section => Down Range Cafe => Topic started by: tombogan03884 on March 28, 2012, 11:22:20 AM
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The U. S. S.. Constitution (Old Ironsides), as a combat vessel, carried 48,600 gallons of fresh water for her crew of 475 officers and men. This was sufficient to last six months of sustained operations at sea. She carried no evaporators (i.e. fresh water distillers).
However, let it be noted that according to her ship's log, "On July 27, 1798, the U.S. S. Constitution sailed from Boston with a full complement of 475 officers and men, 48,600 gallons of fresh water, 7,400 cannon shot, 11,600 pounds of black powder and 79,400 gallons of rum."
Her mission: "To destroy and harass English shipping."
Making Jamaica on 6 October, she took on 826 pounds of flour and 68,300 gallons of rum.
Then she headed for the Azores , arriving there 12 November. She provisioned with 550 pounds of beef and 64,300 gallons of Portuguese wine.
On 18 November, she set sail for England. In the ensuing days she defeated five British men-of-war and captured and scuttled 12 English merchant ships, salvaging only the rum aboard each.
By 26 January, her powder and shot were exhausted. Nevertheless, although unarmed she made a night raid up the Firth of Clyde in Scotland. Her landing party captured a whisky distillery and transferred 40,000 gallons of single malt Scotch aboard by dawn. Then she headed home.
The U. S. S. Constitution arrived in Boston on 20 February 1799, with no cannon shot, no food, no powder, no rum,no wine, no whisky, and 38,600 gallons of water.
GO NAVY!
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As you're well aware, water would go rancid and stagnant in a wooden barrel. Rum having an alcohol content above 40-50% was the normal way that sailors got enough fluid into their systems.
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I don't know who was on board, but I can explain to the exact cup how happy they were ;D
Alcohol, tobacco and firearms - The USS Constitution brought the chips ;D
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Only seems fitting, that Navy Capt. Samuel Nicholas, and a few members of the Second Continental Congress were at Tun Tavern, and shortly thereafter, Nov. 10, 1775, we had the Continental Marines.....Later known as the United States Marine Corps.
Apple don't fall far from the ale stein..... ::)
To the OP, if one does the math with the weight of water, powder, rum, men, provisions, etc,.....the U.S.S. Constitution had a heck of a hold and capacity.... :o
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Only seems fitting, that Navy Capt. Samuel Nicholas, and a few members of the Second Continental Congress were at Tun Tavern, and shortly thereafter, Nov. 10, 1775, we had the Continental Marines.....Later known as the United States Marine Corps.
Apple don't fall far from the ale stein..... ::)
To the OP, if one does the math with the weight of water, powder, rum, men, provisions, etc,.....the U.S.S. Constitution had a heck of a hold and capacity.... :o
alcohol is lighter than water, lower specific gravity. 79000 gallons of water (with a specific gravity of 1.0) weighs 264 tons or a volume of 264 cubic meters. not all that much when you do the math for weight, whereas water and food are much more dense which would make carrying more of either much less efficient. seriously, a ship that size should have no trouble with that amount.
we can carry 36,000 tons. now that's a load.
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alcohol is lighter than water, lower specific gravity. 79000 gallons of water (with a specific gravity of 1.0) weighs 264 tons or a volume of 264 cubic meters. not all that much when you do the math for weight, whereas water and food are much more dense which would make carrying more of either much less efficient. seriously, a ship that size should have no trouble with that amount.
we can carry 36,000 tons. now that's a load.
How much fuel do you carry?
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The M/Y Cakewalk pictured in avatar, is 284 feet long, and the largest American Yacht built in almost 80 years. (Owned by a Conservative BTW)....
(http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm182/twyacht/Mega-yacht-Cakewalk-by-Derecktor-Shipyards.jpg)
There are two 6' members of the crew at the bow...for scale.
She holds right at 80,000 gallons of diesel. Water tanks are "moderate", as she has the same watermakers available to the current Navy Destroyers. 4 walk in freezers and reefers...and a wine and cigar celler.... Crew compliment of two dozen, with officers mess and crew mess separated. Crew gym, and owners his and her "heads" that make a 5 star hotel look like a gas station toilet.
To deepwater, his beasts hold a heck of a lot more....just ask his current ride,......
(http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm182/twyacht/a96891_n13.jpg)
;D
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Titan Uranus? You saying his wife's backside is big? ? ? ? ? ? ? :o ???
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Titan Uranus? You saying his wife's backside is big? ? ? ? ? ? ? :o ???
Better than his last ride....
(http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm182/twyacht/a96891_n7.jpg)
;D
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I was gonna say that that yacht is bigger than my house...but it's bigger than my neighborhood...and a lot better looking too.
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Who Sailed The Ship?
I don't know, but I bet Deepwater, and Crusader Rabbit were in the crew ;D
It's a historical fact that when they needed to lighten the ship they would dump the water, some times even ammo and guns.
History never mentions them dumping the booze though. ;D
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alcohol is lighter than water, lower specific gravity. 79000 gallons of water (with a specific gravity of 1.0) weighs 264 tons or a volume of 264 cubic meters. not all that much when you do the math for weight, whereas water and food are much more dense which would make carrying more of either much less efficient. seriously, a ship that size should have no trouble with that amount.
we can carry 36,000 tons. now that's a load.
Remember, a ship that size* ain't really all that big. Plus, a gun deck full of cannons, not to mention the crew (450+ men and officers), as well as spare canvas/sails, timbers, rope, rigging, etc. in addition to the booze, water, booze, food, booze, ammunition, booze, and shot.
*She's 204' long (175' at the waterline) and only 43.5' wide. I can't find anything with her displacement, but then they measured by guns in those days, as in she was rated as a 44-gun heavy frigate.
Awwww, frigate, where's the booze? ? ? ? ? :P
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Remember, a ship that size* ain't really all that big. Plus, a gun deck full of cannons, not to mention the crew (450+ men and officers), as well as spare canvas/sails, timbers, rope, rigging, etc. in addition to the booze, water, booze, food, booze, ammunition, booze, and shot.
*She's 204' long (175' at the waterline) and only 43.5' wide. I can't find anything with her displacement, but then they measured by guns in those days, as in she was rated as a 44-gun heavy frigate.
Awwww, frigate, where's the booze? ? ? ? ? :P
works out to be roughly 170 gallons of happiness per man if you round it up to 80,000 gallons. also, as food and water are used up you make space for more 'cargo'. another reason to use up plenty of shot and powder on other ships is that you can make space to store the booze you stol... err.. captured from the other vessel. must replace lost weight with some kind of ballast ... right?
from Wkipedia;
Type: 44-gun frigate
Tonnage: 1,576[4]
Displacement: 2,200 tons[4]
Length: 204 ft (62 m) (length overall);
175 ft (53 m) at waterline
Beam: 43 ft 6 in (13.26 m)
Height: foremast: 198 ft (60 m)
mainmast: 220 ft (67 m)
mizzenmast:172.5 ft (52.6 m)[2]
Draft: 21 ft (6.4 m) forward
23 ft (7.0 m) aft[4]
Depth of hold: 14 ft 3 in (4.34 m)[1]
Decks: Orlop, Berth, Gun, Spar
Propulsion: Sail (three masts, ship rig)
Sail plan: 42,710 ft² (3,968 m²) on three masts[2]
Speed: 13 knots (24 km/h; 15 mph)[1]
Boats and landing
craft carried: 1 × 36 ft (11 m) longboat,
2 × 30 ft (9 m) cutters,
2 × 28 ft (9 m) whaleboats,
1 × 28 ft (9 m) gig,
1 × 22 ft (7 m) jolly boat,
1 × 14 ft (4 m) punt[2]
Complement: (1797) 12 officers and 450 enlisted. [5]
Armament: 30 × 24-pounder (11 kg) long gun,
20 × 32-pounder (15 kg) carronade,
2 × 24-pounder (11 kg) bow chasers[2]
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That's what it was....The draft. She ran deep fully loaded. Good ol' oak and tar at that...And she had a proud American big beam at almost 44'.
Big, and runs fast and deep, ::) ....with a lot of firepower, (and booze),....but either way,....Built to American standards I'd say... ;D
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Designed by a Philadelphia Quaker to be 25% larger than British Frigates which averaged 30 -38 guns.
None of the class, (The first 6 major ships of the US Navy ) ever lost a 1 on one fight with a British frigate.
It was so bad that the British Admiralty issued orders that forbid British Captian's from engaging in single combat with US warships.