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Title: The Dutch minister of Justice is planning to outlaw IPSC
Post by: the chihuahua kid on March 31, 2012, 01:54:17 PM
HELP!

The Dutch minister of Justice is planning to outlaw  IPSC and all other PRACTICAL SHOOTING training and MATCH and all CHAMPIONSHIPS for non reason !!!!!!!
We (the dutch shooters) opend a petition and we need as MUCH HELP as we can get!
Please SIGN the petition!!!!

http://petities.nl/petitie/dynamische-disciplines-moeten-blijven

Thanks for reading.
The Chihuahua kid.

edit:

Message from Saul Kirsch

Urgent - Your Action is Needed Now! 30 March, 2012
 
Dear fellow IPSC shooters and friends,

As many of you have heard already, IPSC shooting (in fact all Dynamic shooting disciplines) are about to be prohibited in the Netherlands!

This new law will be voted on in a matter of weeks, and if it passes – will mean the end of our sport in Holland, and who knows – this decision may well spread quickly across the EU.

As you can imagine, the NPSA (the Dutch IPSC organization) is mobilizing every possible resource to fight this unjust proposed law, but it is  a desperate battle. The odds are stacked against us.

We need your help!

There is a petition being signed (online) which will be submitted along with other material as we  try to make our case for our sport.

You can help by going online and signing this petition. The more signatures we have, the better.

Please also take a moment to forward this email to anyone you can think of who could generate more signatures, your shooting range, your club,  your federation, your local gunsmiths who may be able to send it on to their mailing list. Post it online on any website you have access to.

We want to show that IPSC is a serious sport, with thousands of participants worldwide.

Please take a minute to log onto this site:

http://petities.nl/petitie/dynamische-disciplines-moeten-blijven

Scroll down, where it says “Ik” –  you fill in  your name

- Where it says ”wonende te” you fill in your city and country.

- Tick the checkbox if  you want to allow your name to be shown on the list.

- Enter your email address

- And click the yellow box “ondertekenen” to sign the petition.

Many thanks for your participation in our fight.

Best Regards,

Saul Kirsch
General Manager
Double-Alpha Academy B.V.
Title: Re: HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: Solus on March 31, 2012, 02:07:19 PM
Tell the Minister of Justice that Adolf Hitler would be proud of him.

Tell him that anyone who believes in staying free instead of becoming slaves will condemn him.

Tell  him that no one will believe he has forgotten the lessons the NAZI's taught the free world, but it appears he has embraced the NAZI's behavior.
Title: Re: The Dutch minister of Justice is planning to outlaw IPSC
Post by: the chihuahua kid on March 31, 2012, 02:23:54 PM
Solus you took the words right out of my mouth!
and the bad is he (minister) is member of the liberal party in the netherlands!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

greets ,
The Kid
Title: Re: The Dutch minister of Justice is planning to outlaw IPSC
Post by: Hazcat on March 31, 2012, 02:50:38 PM
Kid, the link for English just eventually takes you back to the same petition in Dutch.  SO what is asked for each of the three lines at the bottom of the petition so we can sign it?

Thanks,
Title: Re: The Dutch minister of Justice is planning to outlaw IPSC
Post by: Big Frank on March 31, 2012, 03:18:32 PM
It's name, where you're from, and email address.
Title: Re: The Dutch minister of Justice is planning to outlaw IPSC
Post by: Solus on March 31, 2012, 03:39:35 PM
There is what appears to be a Permission check box. 

What is that about?
Title: Re: The Dutch minister of Justice is planning to outlaw IPSC
Post by: the chihuahua kid on March 31, 2012, 03:51:55 PM
if you activate the permission box you allow your name and city and response  publik.
Hazcat, Jumbo, Solus,
thanks.

Title: Re: The Dutch minister of Justice is planning to outlaw IPSC
Post by: MikeBjerum on March 31, 2012, 04:01:56 PM
Is there a link to a news story on this?
Title: Re: The Dutch minister of Justice is planning to outlaw IPSC
Post by: the chihuahua kid on March 31, 2012, 04:17:35 PM
Is there a link to a news story on this?
only in dutch at the moment
this is the press release from the ministerie of justice : http://www.rijksoverheid.nl/nieuws/2012/03/28/maatregelen-ter-beheersing-van-legaal-wapenbezit.html
Title: Re: The Dutch minister of Justice is planning to outlaw IPSC
Post by: r_w on March 31, 2012, 04:37:19 PM



This Netherlands?  
Title: Re: The Dutch minister of Justice is planning to outlaw IPSC
Post by: 1Buckshot on March 31, 2012, 04:58:58 PM
Signed! Now the Dutch shooters will know there is some people from the USA supporting them.
Title: Re: The Dutch minister of Justice is planning to outlaw IPSC
Post by: PegLeg45 on March 31, 2012, 05:24:26 PM
Signed! Now the Dutch shooters will know there is some people from the USA supporting them.

+1

Title: Re: The Dutch minister of Justice is planning to outlaw IPSC
Post by: twyacht on March 31, 2012, 05:42:04 PM
Done...Someone needs to find an Ocin post, and PM him, he was from that neck of the woods also.

Americans helping Europeans from tyrannical political aholes (again)....

Glad to do it.,..
Title: Re: The Dutch minister of Justice is planning to outlaw IPSC
Post by: tombogan03884 on March 31, 2012, 06:09:10 PM
Done...Someone needs to find an Ocin post, and PM him, he was from that neck of the woods also.

Americans helping Europeans from tyrannical political aholes (again)....

Glad to do it.,..

On it.
PM and e mails sent.
Title: Re: The Dutch minister of Justice is planning to outlaw IPSC
Post by: Pathfinder on March 31, 2012, 07:01:54 PM
Way cool! I saw posts from Poland, Russia, England, Sweden and elsewhere. Plus ours from the USA!!!
Title: Re: The Dutch minister of Justice is planning to outlaw IPSC
Post by: Hazcat on March 31, 2012, 07:16:56 PM
Done it.
Title: Re: The Dutch minister of Justice is planning to outlaw IPSC
Post by: McGyver on March 31, 2012, 08:40:08 PM
Done, and glad I did! (that's ANOTHER list I'll be on!  ::))
Title: Re: The Dutch minister of Justice is planning to outlaw IPSC
Post by: the chihuahua kid on April 01, 2012, 12:22:57 PM
Kick up for the edit message from Saul Kirsch.

Thanks to all of You!!!!!!!!

The Kid.
Title: Re: The Dutch minister of Justice is planning to outlaw IPSC
Post by: first shot on April 02, 2012, 01:02:28 AM
Yep. That's another list for me, too!  (Sometimes you wanna go, where all the Socialists know your name...) :D
Title: Re: The Dutch minister of Justice is planning to outlaw IPSC
Post by: tombogan03884 on April 03, 2012, 10:05:20 AM
Got a reply from Ocin:

"Things are quite ok for me at the moiment, thanks for asking. Hopefully things have gone better for you as well as of late?

About the ISPC ban: I heard about it but not about the on line petition, thanks for the heads up!

Though, I doubt it will do any good Sad"

Ocin
Title: Re: The Dutch minister of Justice is planning to outlaw IPSC
Post by: the chihuahua kid on April 05, 2012, 03:16:06 PM
Got a reply from Ocin:

"Things are quite ok for me at the moiment, thanks for asking. Hopefully things have gone better for you as well as of late?

About the ISPC ban: I heard about it but not about the on line petition, thanks for the heads up!

Though, I doubt it will do any good Sad"

Ocin

If you fight you can lose, if you dont fight you'r lost

update,
It seems the minister is withdrawing the ban ( seems he can't get a majority in the second chamber)
Maybe we won a battle, but the war stil on.
Dont hesitate to SIGN the petition!!


The Chihuahua Kid.

Happy Shooting.
Title: Re: The Dutch minister of Justice is planning to outlaw IPSC
Post by: Solus on April 05, 2012, 04:30:37 PM
That is great news.

I do hope all the international support might have made a few politicians decide not to back the ban.

Great work and keep at it..

Take care.
Title: Re: The Dutch minister of Justice is planning to outlaw IPSC
Post by: the chihuahua kid on June 24, 2012, 04:47:43 PM
Hi All,

the picture shows the minister of justice ( the man in de middle) accepting the petition.
the man left is the president of the APS. the man right is the president of the npsa (dutch ipsc)
the ban is withdrawn!
thanx to all of you who subscribed the petition.

(the goverment is not to be trusted they try to find other ways to unarm the shooters)
Title: Re: The Dutch minister of Justice is planning to outlaw IPSC
Post by: Solus on June 24, 2012, 04:54:34 PM
Now, how about that!!   :D :D :D :D
Title: Re: The Dutch minister of Justice is planning to outlaw IPSC
Post by: Magoo541 on June 25, 2012, 12:10:16 AM
Well ain't that some s#!t...  Someone give that man a gun-oh wait that would probably be illegal since he didn't go through a background check to be a politician.  ;D