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Title: I was the USPSA and Steel Challenge Match Director at the World Shooting Complex
Post by: Tyler Durden on April 20, 2012, 05:51:29 PM
Hi all,

I was match director for a year to a year and half.  I was a non-paid volunteer the whole time. 

I was replaced by an IL state DNR employee.

Title: Re: I was the USPSA and Steel Challenge Match Director at the World Shooting Complex
Post by: Pathfinder on April 20, 2012, 06:01:03 PM
And the .gov reason for replacing you was? ? ? ? ? ? ?

PS: Assuming you did not want to go, that seriously sucks!   >:(
Title: Re: I was the USPSA and Steel Challenge Match Director at the World Shooting Complex
Post by: Tyler Durden on April 20, 2012, 10:55:46 PM
in other Illinois gun related news....

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:8I9Y_xjus_YJ:www.ilga.gov/legislation/fulltext.asp%3FGAID%3D11%26SessionID%3D84%26GA%3D97%26DocTypeID%3DHB%26DocNum%3D1294%26LegID%3D%26SpecSess%3D%26Session%3D+Illinois+house+bill+1294+world+shooting+complex&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&client=safari

http://www.kmov.com/news/local/Attorney-general-Illinois-should-release-FOID-card-list-117179853.html

Title: Re: I was the USPSA and Steel Challenge Match Director at the World Shooting Complex
Post by: GeorgeCook on April 21, 2012, 09:38:29 PM
It's time USPSA pulls the Single Stack Nationals from IL. That place, like California, is totally phucked up....
Title: Re: I was the USPSA and Steel Challenge Match Director at the World Shooting Complex
Post by: Tyler Durden on April 21, 2012, 10:12:45 PM
well, supposedly the Steel Challenge pulled the World Shoot out of Piru, California and put it in Florida because California is so anti-gun.  Or at least that is one of the reasons.

I have my own reasons for not shooting the Single Stack Nat's, and it being in Illinois is not necessarily one of them.  It is just 3 hours away.

I've been harping on having it moved for a long time and to wrestle it away from the Single Stack Society.

To me, it would make sense to put the revolver and single stack nat's together.  I think Phil Strader made this same recommendation last year, before he got elected USPSA president.

Title: Re: I was the USPSA and Steel Challenge Match Director at the World Shooting Complex
Post by: Tyler Durden on April 22, 2012, 11:35:28 PM
And the .gov reason for replacing you was? ? ? ? ? ? ?

PS: Assuming you did not want to go, that seriously sucks!   >:(

I have no idea why they replaced me.  I had a fellow shooter friend tell me this time last year that " they don't want you out there as MD"

So it is not a surprise.

What is surprising is ...well... I must be a really scarey person.  Nobody from the state has actually got in touch with me... Been direct or straight forward in dealing with me.

And actually, yeah, I did want to go.  My assistant match director and I were exhausted/exasperated last November at the end of the shooting season.  As MD, you gotta deal with a bunch of petty BS personality and clique conflicts.  And some people act like a brand new chevy pick up truck is up for grabs at every local match. ::)

It made me wonder "These are adults with guns???"

Anyway, I am glad to join the ranks of just shooters now
Title: Re: I was the USPSA and Steel Challenge Match Director at the World Shooting Complex
Post by: Tyler Durden on April 26, 2012, 07:55:20 AM
Well i have had a few days to mull things over.  And to ruminate about some things i saw om a local st. Louis shooters forum.

I'm still a little shocked by the responses.  In my opinion, Some of the shooters came off sounding like socialists.  One shooter even piped up with the always convenient "think of the children" excuse with regards to the scholastic steel challenge program.

That whole " think Of the children argument" gets used for leverage for a lot of things.

I hope the state had the good sense to finger print and background check these scholastic steel challenge coaches.
Title: Re: I was the USPSA and Steel Challenge Match Director at the World Shooting Complex
Post by: tombogan03884 on April 26, 2012, 10:27:53 AM
You were "thinking of the children".
That's why you were teaching them to shoot safely.
Title: Re: I was the USPSA and Steel Challenge Match Director at the World Shooting Complex
Post by: Tyler Durden on April 26, 2012, 09:50:14 PM
Yeah, I was out there in 2010 with Mike Gibson of MGM targets fame helping load mags and run teenage shooters through the Smoke and Hope stage while the Scholastic Trap/Skeet/Clays nationals were going on.

I think I was out there in 2009 as well, maybe with Scott Moore doing the exact same thing.

funny how everybody wants to dogpile on me, and they choose not to know about that stuff or just conveniently forget.

Title: Re: I was the USPSA and Steel Challenge Match Director at the World Shooting Complex
Post by: tombogan03884 on April 26, 2012, 09:58:07 PM
Ne'er do wells are quick to jump on some one who actually produces.
It's not just a political matter of punitive taxes on the "rich" in order to "spread the wealth".
It is a human reaction that is pretty predictable.
Them that can't or won't always ridicule, demean and attempt to destroy those who can and do.
A successful person makes the rest realize their inadequacy there fore they lash out in retaliation for their own short comings.
For an example, look at the knee jerk reactions of some members here any time Ted Nugent is being discussed.
Title: Re: I was the USPSA and Steel Challenge Match Director at the World Shooting Complex
Post by: Tyler Durden on April 27, 2012, 12:29:55 AM
I used to buy my stage designers/staff/setter-uppers lunch.

I would work nights, get home at about 5 AM on say a Thursday morning, be at the range at 7 AM, set up the stages with a few other guys,  get back home maybe at 1 PM, sleep for a few hours, then go to work.

Work Friday night, get home at 5 AM, head to the match/range, staple up targets, then do the match director'ing thing, eat lunch real quick, hand out the gift certificates to the "staff" for their lunches, then haul bootie back home, maybe sleep for a couple of hours, maybe not, then go into work Saturday night. 

get home Sunday morning, wake earlier, head to my assistant match director's house, and punch in some scores.

through the grapevine I have heard that the state might shut down that club/charter, then start a new club.

I suspect that in the future all the shooters will have to join that club, as in get charged a membership fee.  The match fee prices have already gone up , higher, than what I had recommended.

I have also heard that the Amateur Trapshooting Association might pull the Grand out of the shooting complex, but that just seems too rumor mill for me.

sighhhhh.....as the world turns....
Title: Re: I was the USPSA and Steel Challenge Match Director at the World Shooting Complex
Post by: Rastus on April 27, 2012, 06:26:50 AM
Sounds like there is a conspiracy in play.  With the all the crap that comes from Chicago backstabbing and lying would not surprise me for any locale in Illinois.  It's like follow the money; who do all the people who are "crying" know in common who is laying low in the background.

A state shooting club?  What the heck?