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Member Section => Politics & RKBA => Topic started by: tombogan03884 on June 20, 2012, 11:43:44 AM
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Not that I'm surprised, but printable words fail me.
http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/obama-invokes-executive-privilege-holder-faces-contempt-vote-143710603.html
President Barack Obama invoked executive privilege on Wednesday for the first time since taking office to withhold certain Justice Department documents tied to the flawed "Operation Fast and Furious" gun-smuggling investigation from a House panel demanding them. Obama's 11th-hour decision, revealed in a letter from the Justice Department to House Oversight and Government Reform Committee Chairman Darrell Issa, did not derail the California Republican's plans to hold a vote declaring Attorney General Eric Holder in contempt of Congress.
"I write now to inform you that the President has asserted executive privilege" over the documents, Deputy Attorney General James Cole told Issa in a letter released by the White House.
"Although we are deeply disappointed that the Committee appears intent on proceeding with a contempt vote, the Department remains willing to work with the Committee to reach a mutually satisfactory resolution of the outstanding issues," Cole wrote in the letter.
[Related: Reaction fast, furious over Obama decision]
Issa read from Cole's letter as his committee opened the hearing, and said he was "evaluating" the situation but would not hold off on the contempt vote. If the panel votes to hold Holder in contempt, it could lead to a full House vote on the issue, which would refer the matter to a Justice Department prosecutor. The attorney general had recently warned of a "constitutional conflict" on the issue.Issa met with Holder late Tuesday to find a last-minute path out of the expanding constitutional conflict, but said afterwards that they had failed to reach a satisfactory arrangement regarding lawmakers' access to documents connected to "Fast and Furious." The operation aimed to track the flow of guns from the United States into the hands of Mexican drug cartels, but many firearms went missing and two turned up at the scene of the killing of Customs and Border Patrol Agent Brian Terry.
Republicans have accused Holder of misleading them on what he knew about the operation and when. The attorney general has blamed Republicans of playing politics by rejecting his offers to make some of the materials available. Obama has rejected Republican calls to dismiss Holder.
The White House, in an email to reporters announcing the move, noted that Obama's Republican predecessor President George W. Bush had invoked executive privilege six times, and former President Bill Clinton relied on the doctrine 14 times. Republicans hit back by sending reporters a snippet from a March 2007 interview in which Obama condemned the Bush Administration's use of executive privilege "every time there's something a little shaky that's taking place" and urged that administration to "come clean."
By invoking "executive privilege," the Administration was essentially asserting a right to withhold documents that Issa's committee has sought using a congressional subpoena. The Supreme Court has ruled in the past that the privilege has its roots in the separation of powers enshrined in the Constitution. At issue is whether disclosing the documents could imperil ongoing investigations or reveal internal deliberations -- something officials of both parties have warned could make it hard for future officials to offer candid advice for fear it could be made public.
"In brief, the compelled production to Congress of these internal Executive Branch documents generated in the course of the deliberative process concerning the Department's response to congressional oversight and related media inquiries would have significant, damaging consequences," Cole wrote to Issa.
"As I explained at our meeting yesterday, it would inhibit the candor of such Executive Branch deliberations in the future and significantly impair the Executive Branch's ability to respond independently and effectively to congressional oversight," Cole said.
"Such compelled disclosure would be inconsistent with the separation of powers established in the Constitution and would potentially create an imbalance in the relationship between these two co-equal branches of the Government," the deputy attorney general wrote to Issa.
Republican House Speaker John Boehner's office seized on Obama's decision, arguing that it suggested White House involvement in a "cover-up" of the errors in "Fast and Furious."
"Until now, everyone believed that the decisions regarding 'Fast and Furious' were confined to the Department of Justice. The White House decision to invoke executive privilege implies that White House officials were either involved in the 'Fast and Furious' operation or the cover-up that followed," said Boehner spokesman Brendan Buck.
"The Administration has always insisted that wasn't the case. Were they lying, or are they now bending the law to hide the truth?" Buck said in a statement emailed to reporters.
But that's not necessarily true. Holder, who wrote to Obama asking him to invoke executive privilege, made no mention of any involvement by the White House in "Fast and Furious," which was run out of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms in Arizona. And an Obama administration official shared a list of "examples of assertions of executive privilege not involving presidential communications" dating back to former President Ronald Reagan's October 1981 decision to do so in connection to international Interior Department deliberations about the Mineral Lands Leasing Act.
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Just sent this to my congresscritter...
Dear Senator Brown,
The news of late has become rather disturbing coming out of Washington D.C.!
Today, the president invokes executive privilege to protect his Chicago buddy concerning the involvement the Justice Department had in a botched plan to move guns into Mexico. A plan, I remind you, that has cost the life of Brian Terry and countless others as the war in Mexico rages to our south. The same Justice Dept that thinks that Florida should NOT bother to strike illegal voters from their polls and taken Arizona to court to prevent them from doing what the federal government should be doing to protect our borders! These sort of actions have become all too common these days and need to be addressed!
Has anyone in Congress bothered to review this nonsense? Has anyone looked into the legality of these actions? Has anyone developed a strategy to investigate impeachment proceedings for this president and hold any of his advisers accountable for possible illegal actions?
The American people are being ignored by this administration and this Congress! When we need representation in Congress all we hear are crickets chirping as you protect your jobs and exorbitant salaries! When are the House and the Senate going to begin to earn those salaries and get back to the business of doing what the American public demands of you?
Respectfully,
Timothy
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Thanks Tim, you just saved my lazy butt some typing!!!
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Thanks Tim, you just saved my lazy butt some typing!!!
You're welcome to use whatever you care to! That wasn't my first draft..the 1st was not very tactful in it's verbage...
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You're welcome to use whatever you care to! That wasn't my first draft..the 1st was not very tactful in it's verbage...
That was the main reason I 'borrowed' parts of yours....... ;) ;D
My BP goes up with crap like this and my typing ability, along with civil words, fail me.
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Nothing really surprising here but good to keep in mind.
President Obama in 2007: Bush Tends to ‘Hide Behind Executive Privilege’
Obama said in 2007. “There‘s been a tendency on the part of this administration to try to hide behind executive privilege every time there’s something a little shaky that’s taken place. I think the administration would be best served by coming clean on this
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/president-obama-in-2007-bush-hiding-behind-executive-privilege/
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When I first heard about this my immediate reaction was that of course he's invoking exectutive privilage. There is information in those documents to have him (Obama) put on trial for treason!
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A Watergate moment ?
The only other words that come to mind have 4 letters.
Except for one with 14. >:(
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To John Kerry...
Dear Senator Kerry,
The news of late coming out of Washington D.C. has become disturbing and though you may be in lock step agreement with this shady maneuver I find myself compelled to express my opinion.
Today, the president invokes executive privilege to protect his Chicago buddy concerning the involvement the Justice Department had in a botched plan to move guns into Mexico. A plan, I remind you, that has cost the life of Brian Terry and countless others as the war in Mexico rages to our south. The same Justice Dept that thinks that Florida should NOT bother to strike illegal voters from their polls and taken Arizona to court to prevent them from doing what the federal government should be doing to protect our borders! These sort of actions have become all too common these days and need to be addressed!
Has anyone in Congress bothered to review this nonsense? Has anyone looked into the legality of these actions? Has anyone developed a strategy to investigate impeachment proceedings for this president and hold any of his advisers accountable for possible illegal actions? These questions, based on your party affiliation, are purely rhetorical in nature! ;D
The American people are being ignored by this administration and this Congress! When we need representation in Congress all we hear are crickets chirping as you protect your jobs and exorbitant salaries! When are the House and the Senate going to begin to earn those salaries and get back to the business of doing what the American public demands of you?
Respectfully,
Timothy