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Member Section => Politics & RKBA => Topic started by: JC5123 on June 29, 2012, 02:03:27 PM
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How stupid is this?!?!?!?! ARMED Law Enforcement Officers are instructed to "run and hide" if they encounter an active shooter or face disiplinary action?
WTF doesn't cover it......
Border Patrol agents in Arizona are blasting their bosses for telling them, along with all other Department of Homeland Security employees, to run and hide if they encounter an "active shooter."
It's one thing to tell civilian employees to cower under a desk if a gunman starts spraying fire in a confined area, say members of Tucson Local 2544/National Border Patrol Council, but to give armed law enforcement professionals the same advice is downright insulting. The instructions from DHS come in the form of pamphlets and a mandatory computer tutorial.
“We are now taught in an ‘Active Shooter’ course that if we encounter a shooter in a public place we are to ‘run away’ and ‘hide’" union leader Brandon Judd wrote on the website of 3,300-member union local. “If we are cornered by such a shooter we are to (only as a last resort) become ‘aggressive’ and ‘throw things’ at him or her. We are then advised to ‘call law enforcement’ and wait for their arrival (presumably, while more innocent victims are slaughtered)."
The FEMA-administered computer course, entitled “IS-907- Active Shooter: What You Can Do,” is a 45-minute tutorial that provides guidance to all employees on how to recognize indicators of possible workplace violence and what to do should their office be invaded by gunmen and focuses around three main options; either evacuate, hide out, or in dire circumstances, take action.
Main Points of the "Active Shooter" training course
Evacuate: If there is an accessible escape path, attempt to evacuate the premises.
Hide out: If evacuation is not possible, find a place to hide where the active shooter is less likely to find
you.
Take action: As a last resort, and only when your life is in imminent danger, attempt to disrupt and/or
incapacitate the active shooter.
Once the course is completed, employees are urged to download additional materials including a summary booklet and pocket-sized card outlining protocol, which was also handed out to employees two months ago.
One DHS employee told FoxNews.com the instruction cards were handed out to employees six weeks ago. At the time, he assumed they were only for civilian employees, not armed law enforcement officers within the department, which oversees the U.S. Customs and Border Protection.
"Requiring BP agents to follow the same steps is egregious,” he said.
DHS officials maintain that the Active Shooter course was designed for all employees—civilian and law-enforcement officers-- and no one should rush into a situation where they, or others around them, could get hurt.
“The Department of Homeland Security takes very seriously its responsibility to protect all of its employees from threats that may surface in the workplace,” U.S. Customs and Border Protection spokesman Michael Friel said in a written statement to FoxNews.com
“CBP workforce training is designed to prepare all employees, including leaders, managers, supervisors, law enforcement personnel and non-law enforcement personnel, to understand their own roles and the roles of their fellow employees in responding to threats. In an active shooter scenario, employees are taught to take actions that keep them alive.”
But members of Local 2544 say they are obligated to protect the public in such a situation, whether they are on duty or not. Given the instructions, some wonder if they would be disciplined for taking down a gunman in a situation like the Fort Hood shooting or the January, 2011 case in Casa Adobes, in which a deranged gunmen shot 19 people, including Democratic Rep. Gabrielle Giffords. Six people were killed.
“It is always comforting to know that for those of us who carry a weapon when we are off-duty, if we should encounter such a situation, stop a shooter and save countless lives, we can look forward to being disciplined or fired by the Border Patrol because we should have run away to hide and then maybe thrown objects at the deranged killer instead of taking action and stopping him with a firearm,” the union local's website says.
Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/06/29/border-patrol-union-claims-homeland-security-safety-course-promotes/?test=latestnews#ixzz1zD6kpyTA
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So the traditional "To serve and protect" becomes more of "To serve and hide"
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Sounds like there is a Frenchman in charge of training......
The AP and UPI reported that the French government announced after the London bombings that it has raised its terror alert level from Run to Hide. The only two higher levels in France are Surrender and Collaborate.
"We can stand here like the French, or we can do something about it."
-- Marge Simpson
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What do you expect ?
This is the same outfit that, while young male Muslim radicals like the shoe bomber, and underwear bomber (both of whom were apprehended by civilians ) were trying to blow up US airliners, has been feeling up Grand mothers and toddlers and subjecting people to full body X ray scans.
They also during the same period have defined potential domestic terrorists, not as unstable Muslim Army Majors who shoot up a US military facility (that was just "work place violence"), but as Veteran, gun owners, and those who oppose BO's policies on Health care and immigration.
I'm just surprised they did not include "stick your head in the sand or some convenient orifice.
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After this wek I am convinced that the greatest nation ever to exist on the face of this planet is lead by COWARDS. >:(
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After this wek I am convinced that the greatest nation ever to exist on the face of this planet is lead by COWARDS. >:(
They are not cowards, if the citizens had any balls at all they would have dragged these SOB's out and hung them like Mussolini.
But after getting a no experience Marxist elected who got away with appointing a tax cheat to Sec Treas. they think they can get away with anything.
They are betting their lives on it.
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So the traditional "To serve and protect" becomes more of "To serve and hide"
Wrong, wrong, wrong ...
Alf, you are old enough to remember Duck and Cover.
These clowns brought it back >:(
Remember, if they are running and hiding they are neither protecting or serving >:(
Arm yourselves boys and girls! We are on our own >:(
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I view it more as a liberal kind of thinking ...
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They only did that to identify the little piles of dust leftover after the blast!
I lived through those days from 63 to about 68. The eventually stopped the drills.
I can still remember the Monday after Kennedy was shot! We got the day off!
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Why is anyone surprised at this? bho and his minions have been dismantling this country for 3.5 years. This is what it all means, folks, just one little example of what it means to sit idly by and watch that POS POTUS tear this country apart and dismantle it. It goes along with all of the other insult and illegal actions. Muslim kills scores at Ft. Hood? Well, we need to coddle him, make sure his rights are respected, etc.etc. etc. ad nauseum.
You and me, patriots, Tea Bag party members? Why, we're terrorists, and they will give us no quarter.
And make no mistake, he ain't alone,admins before his have been in on this too. I posted 2 years ago somewhere that bho is the leader of the endgame, or perhaps of the penultimate endgame, turned loose to complete the objective of his masters.
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Next week we celebrate our Independence Day. I feel sorry for the 49% of this country that is dependant on Nanny.gov and still thinks they are free men.
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Look on the bright side Path, They usually purge their own ranks before they unleash the post revolutionary terror on every one else.
The Bolsheviks, killed off the members of other leftist parties even before the Civil War started .
The Concentration Camps Hitler filled with Jews were originally built to house the Brown Shirts.
Before they come for us, we will have the satisfaction of seeing them haul off the people who made their power grab possible.
Next week we celebrate our Independence Day. I feel sorry for the 49% of this country that is dependant on Nanny.gov and still thinks they are free men.
The only ones who are still "Free" are those who can grab the essentials, shoulder their pack and vanish.
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Why is anyone surprised at this? bho and his minions have been dismantling this country for 3.5 years.
Actually it's been going on for some time, this "duck and hide" approach.
While I certainly grieve for the flight crews lost on 9/11 I've always questioned why they turned their cockpits over to terrorists. It struck me as odd that the captain of one plane was in the rear of the plane and was calling someone on a cell phone to ask what he should be doing. But this is all part of the "duck and hide" approach.
Bad people will only be emboldened by this approach.
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Remember this is the DHS,.....their protocols of "run and hide" are merely to provide cover for the "real thugs" that ignore protocols, and take care of business....
Like Holder's DOJ, that's where the ATF/FBI etc,....can be unleashed without any worry of rights violations or Constitutional restraints.
RE: Waco/Ruby Ridge.
After all, Holder was AG Reno's Deputy, and learned from the best.
Hell the IRS has 16,000 new employees, and a Gov't contract for Remington 870's. All those rds. contracted by DHS was just a ruse also..
Got tinfoil?
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Hell the IRS has 16,000 new employees, and a Gov't contract for Remington 870's. All those rds. contracted by DHS was just a ruse also..
FOX Business reports on "SCOTUS Ruling Means Bigger, More Intrusive IRS." I think an 870 can make you pretty intrusive.
http://www.foxbusiness.com/government/2012/06/29/scotus-ruling-means-bigger-more-intrusive-irs/ (http://www.foxbusiness.com/government/2012/06/29/scotus-ruling-means-bigger-more-intrusive-irs/)