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Member Section => Down Range Cafe => Topic started by: santahog on June 30, 2012, 01:28:40 AM
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I just traded for one and while I wait for it to get here, I just read that they don't accept "other" 1911 magazines.
-- I did not know that. --
Does anybody know if they take Wilson Combat magazines, (since that's all I've got)?
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Never heard/read that in any review. Don't know why it wouldn't. Try contacting Remington or ask your dealer.
Richard
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Try them in the gun.
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Never heard/read that in any review. Don't know why it wouldn't. Try contacting Remington or ask your dealer.
Richard
It was actually one written here..
Richard Cunningham says:
March 2, 2012 at 11:08 pm
I made a “goof” and purchased a new Remington 1911 pistol. The goof is due to one thing. I had mistakenly assumed that the Remington pistol would accept other 1911 style magazines. It will NOT! I tried both a Kimber 8 round and a Colt 7 round magazine, and had problems with BOTH!!!
It did work OK with the two magazines it came with, but not with others. This flaw makes it impossible to just throw in with my 6 Colt and 2 Kimbers I would have to keep the Remington separate.
This is not a tack driver. It is a close range defense type weapon. As such, I am of the opinion that it should function with ALL standard 45 ACP magazines, which it does not.
The one other thing is the terrible ceramic type grips. If I keep the pistol, they will be replaced with appropriate grips.
Richard
Last post on the page..
http://www.downrange.tv/blog/remington-1911-r1-first-impressions/3296/
It doesn't make sense that they would make a 1911 that required their own magazines. It seems like it would drive people away just because (like me) they already have a dozen or so Wilson Combat just waiting to be rotated..
Tom, since I read it here and try to give credence to somebody who has/had one, I thought I'd make sure before I pick up a few while I wait for delivery of my newest addition..
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Mine works fine with whatever mag I use...it's a 1911. A non-spec 1911 .45 would be a...wait for it...paperweight! Seriously, should be no problem. If there is, it's a gun problem...contact Remington. That said, there are some finicky guns out there, but usually in calibers other than .45. I have an otherwise exemplary STI Trojan in .40 that will run perfectly with STI .40 magazines...period! 9mm 1911s are especially ...I've found Springfield mags to work the best in the 9mm KimberbTarget mynSweetie appropriated...
Michael B
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(http://i812.photobucket.com/albums/zz50/billt460/4New1911sCZ97B012.jpg)
I just picked up this Remington R-1 Stainless. It accepts Springfield Armory magazines, Wilson Combat, as well as Kimber. You should have no problem with aftermarket magazines in them. Some may work a bit more reliably than others. And some might not hold the slide open on the last shot. But the gun should function with all makes of standard 1911 magazines. I haven't fired this one yet, but it cycles dummy rounds just fine through the ones I just mentioned. I'll try to have a range report later in the week.
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Is that RUST in the slide serrations ?
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Is that RUST in the slide serrations ?
No, it's a reflection of the flash off my crappy Sony Cybershot. Here is a photo of the other side that doesn't have it.
(http://i812.photobucket.com/albums/zz50/billt460/4New1911sCZ97B011.jpg)
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No, it's a reflection of the flash off my crappy Sony Cybershot. Here is a photo of the other side that doesn't have it.
(http://i812.photobucket.com/albums/zz50/billt460/4New1911sCZ97B011.jpg)
You gotta watch these guys on here. They pay attention to detail ;D
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And just to add another reference:
Gun Blast did not mention any limitations of the R1 to accept after market mags. I'd think they'd point it out if it were so.
http://www.gunblast.com/Remington-R1.htm (http://www.gunblast.com/Remington-R1.htm)
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The basic premise of the 1911 platform is interchangeability of parts. Granted they've become a bit tighter in tolerance since 1911 but magazines, at least in my experience, are one of those things that SHOULD work in any 1911 on the market!
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(http://i812.photobucket.com/albums/zz50/billt460/4New1911sCZ97B012.jpg)
That's the one!!
Thanks Michael, and all of you!! Having read the one I referenced, it didn't make sense to me. It's better to ask than find out the annoying way though, especially since I've got to wait awhile for it anyway..
I've got a bag full of mostly Wilsons and a few Kimbers. Having read that post, I was being bummed that I might need to buy a half a dozen more from Remington..
Thanks guys!!
Joe
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That's the one!!
Thanks Michael, and all of you!! Having read the one I referenced, it didn't make sense to me. It's better to ask than find out the annoying way though, especially since I've got to wait awhile for it anyway..
I've got a bag full of mostly Wilsons and a few Kimbers. Having read that post, I was being bummed that I might need to buy a half a dozen more from Remington..
Thanks guys!!
Joe
Is that peanut butter in those serrations?
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Is that peanut butter in those serrations?
It kinda looks like a rubbed off finish. I hope it isn't like that but I've wanted a S.S. finish and having only had one steel frame 1911 before now, they shoot & feel better.. I had an apparent "Para Addiction" in the beginning. I've had seven of those in total.. Exactly two that functioned well enough to depend on. I guess because they were less expensive and more available, used.. My first 1911 was a LW "LTC" that NEVER malfunctioned, and I carried it for years. The other was the single stack stainless with the fiber optic front sight. I forget what it's called now but it was their nicest one.
I'm glad the first one worked as well as it did because I'd have ended up carrying some other style today if it hadn't..
I hope this one is that reliable out of the box, because I'm not a smitty and I've been down to one (and it's a good one) 1911 for awhile now.
BTW, this is what I just got back from Remington..
Response Via Email (Danny) 07/02/2012 09:06 AM
Any 80 series 1911 parts or accessories will work just fine in the R1. The Wilson Combat magazine should be just fine.
Here's another thing that I can't figure out.. Look around for night sights and try to find a rear sight for a 1911 that doesn't have a slope to it, (making it impossible to catch on clothing or whatever to chamber a round).. Why is that!.. I know it's a known issue because I've seen guys on the television shows mention it in the past. I get rounding off the edges to uncomplicate the draw but sloping the front of the rear sight only serves to make re-holstering easier, (not all that important in the application of a spirited defense using a firearm).
I'm rambling now..
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My suggestion is leave the sights alone because once you find a sight you like, more than likely you'll need to dovetail the slide and that's going to add cost. Save the money and buy a Crimson Trace laser sight for a 1911 and your low light problem is solved.
Personally, I preferred the old style rear sight over the Novak "like" sight on my Para. You focus on the front sight anyway!
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A number of sights are made to enable the user to chamber a round one handed or clear a jam if one hand/arm is occupied or injured! Just hook the sight on your holster, pocket or other semi-rigid/rigid object and push. Hope I never have to try it for real.
FWIW
Richard
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Do you think it would look too pimped if I used that gold fill on the slide lettering?
(http://i812.photobucket.com/albums/zz50/billt460/4New1911sCZ97B012.jpg)
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Do you think it would look too pimped if I used that gold fill on the slide lettering?
I think it would look good..
I'm hoping to find some checkered light grey/off white marbled looking grips for it to make it a little less conspicuous under my shirt.
Not because it would look better, just to make it blend in..
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Got it outside today.. It feels better than the (LW Frame) Kimber to shoot..
It ate what I fed it without a hitch. I picked up some factory reloads to prove it and had some Lawman left from a few years ago. I only put maybe 100 or so before it started to rain but I LIKE IT!!!
On the down side, it shoots about 2 inches to the left..
One other thing that is unusual for me to encounter is that the trigger is too short. It feels like a kid gun. I'm pressing the trigger with the second bone in my finger, because that's where my finger lands..
So far...
It gets to be my new primary carry as soon as those two issues are corrected.
I'd change over now and just deal with it but I just had a conversation with the pastor of the church I'm about to join and when I told/showed him that I carry, he said that he was glad I had his back..
I know it sounds silly but that got into my head.. At that range, I can't afford to be applying Kentucky Windage..
If a problem manifests itself, I'll let you know..
In the mean time, any suggestions on the child sized trigger, and it shooting that far left?
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The two might be related.
(http://www.bullseyepistol.com/wheel.gif)
http://www.bullseyepistol.com/training.htm (http://www.bullseyepistol.com/training.htm)
Here is one solution.
http://www.brownells.com/.aspx/pid=26446/Product/1911-AUTO-LONG-ALUMINUM-TRIGGER (http://www.brownells.com/.aspx/pid=26446/Product/1911-AUTO-LONG-ALUMINUM-TRIGGER)
This is my personal preference but they aren't for everyone.
http://www.brownells.com/.aspx/pid=24702/Product/1911-AUTO-FLAT-TRIGGER (http://www.brownells.com/.aspx/pid=24702/Product/1911-AUTO-FLAT-TRIGGER)
I've put these in all of my 1911s
Changing triggers on a 1911 isn't that hard to do if you are comfortable with doing a detailed strip of the gun. There are tons of YouTube videos to help with that was well
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In the mean time, any suggestions on the child sized trigger, and it shooting that far left?
You might want to see how it shoots for someone else... someone that can get on the trigger a little better. I agree with Ichiban that finger placement could be the problem. It's hard to get that "straight back press" if you're not using the middle of the first pad of your finger.
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Count me with Ichiban, there's seems to only be one problem, and that is the trigger.
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The two might be related.
(http://www.bullseyepistol.com/wheel.gif)
http://www.bullseyepistol.com/training.htm (http://www.bullseyepistol.com/training.htm)
Here is one solution.
http://www.brownells.com/.aspx/pid=26446/Product/1911-AUTO-LONG-ALUMINUM-TRIGGER (http://www.brownells.com/.aspx/pid=26446/Product/1911-AUTO-LONG-ALUMINUM-TRIGGER)
This is my personal preference but they aren't for everyone.
http://www.brownells.com/.aspx/pid=24702/Product/1911-AUTO-FLAT-TRIGGER (http://www.brownells.com/.aspx/pid=24702/Product/1911-AUTO-FLAT-TRIGGER)
I've put these in all of my 1911s
Changing triggers on a 1911 isn't that hard to do if you are comfortable with doing a detailed strip of the gun. There are tons of YouTube videos to help with that was well
It sure fits the holes in the paper! I had thought about that but once I settled in and started aiming to the right side of the target, the middle started disappearing as it should..
I'm a shamefully bad shot for someone who carries, in large part because I don't get enough consistent practice. This is the first time this calendar year that I've done more than shoot varmints and the last time I shot a squirrel it took me 12 shots to hit it twice.. :-[
(I think the worse my eyes get, the more I like the shotguns..)
I'll have a look at Youtube and see if it's something I want to try. I'm not really gifted in that manner. I've always admired the watch maker.. Getting it apart is easy.. Getting it back together again (and have it work) is a gift.
What do I need to buy for tools to pull it off?
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IIRC you should not need any tools at all except a small diameter brass punch .
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A 1911 is designed to be disassembled with it's own parts but it helps to have a small screw driver and a punch if you don't want to use the slide safety or hammer strut for a punch and sear spring as a screwdriver.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l1TkYHwsnP0
http://www.sightm1911.com/lib/tech/toolbox.htm
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Thank you...
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A re-assembly tip: After putting the new trigger in the gun, insert an empty mag to hold the sear and disconnector while putting the pin in. Also, a little dab of gun grease will hold the two parts together while putting the pin in.
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One more "conclusion" I've come to about this one.. It shoots.. It hasn't given me the least hint of the smallest issue with feeding, firing, ejecting. The only SD ammo I have on hand is Hi-Shock, but it fed it just fine..
I've run a good 300 rounds through it and I'm satisfied that it runs. Till I effect a new trigger, I don't see a need in just burning up ammo to make sure it works..
I like this gun... (It annoyed the cat and the left grip panel worked a little loose this afternoon.. Not sure I can really count that against it.)
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santahog, I had a problem with grip screws coming loose. Don't know why! I took a short piece of rubberband and tightened it into the grip screw and they stayed tight until I took them out for disassembly and cleaning. Also you can clean the threads and use a little clear fingernail polish also.
FWIW
Richard
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It always seems to be the left one. A little purple loctite 222 works wonders.
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It always seems to be the left one. A little purple loctite 222 works wonders.
http://www.vibra-tite.com/vc3.php
For what it's worth, I've found this product to be superior to Loc-Tite in many firearm applications. Grip screws being one of them. It still allows you to remove the screw with zero damage when you need to, but it will keep it in place when required. It is especially good on very small diameter, fine thread applications where it will prevent loosening, yet not allow the threads to be galled or damaged when removed.
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Sounds like a touch of rubber cement might work.
I haven't decided which grip panels I will go with.
The grips that are there can be made pretty with a little burnishing, and the checkering on these is good (and needed without front/back strap checkering). I kinda want to find something in a very light, like grey marble looking color, to blend in under my shirt on a white t-Shirt background.
(Shoulder holster painted white with that flexible white craft fabric paint stuff. Used it for years now and it works well for what i need it to do. At a glance, you don't notice that I'm wearing a holster even without a cover shirt, with a Stainless gun in it.. Don't think less of me, guys. I have to be creative sometimes to get the job done. I know it sounds silly, but it works for me..)
Hogue makes a white"ish" checkered grip in aluminum. It's just not pretty and it's kinda pricy for my tight self..
Again, I know it sounds goofy but I've got a two button Crimson Trace on my Kimber that I may just paint white. I hate to put the stuff on it but it's harmless, and it's not like it really matters as long as it works.. As I think about it, that CT grip may help with that "very" short trigger on it too.
Hmmm.. Evolving ideas..