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Member Section => Politics & RKBA => Topic started by: Lucas on April 15, 2008, 12:25:38 AM
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Might I suggest, our beloved Mr. Bane?
President Bane, sounds kinda scary doesnt it? I like it ;D
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No, we are all voting McCain.
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A vote for anyone but McCain, including Bob Barr, will be a vote for Clinton or Obama.
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Bane's Blog says he is supporting McCain. I am going to vote for McCain. He is the best of the candidates.
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Mcain, is the only choice. Numbers is what counts. ???
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Bane's Blog says he is supporting McCain. I am going to vote for McCain. He is the best of the candidates.
No, he is not the best, he is simply the least objectionable - <updated> of the 3 of them. He is and always will be the Manchurian Candidate, of dubious character, and not to be trusted one inch. We will have to ride him incessantly if/when he wins, as much as if Obambi or Hitlery were to win.
My concern is that he feels he is owed our support, and will not return any favors to us. Damn, what this country has sunk to.
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A vote for McCain is a vote against America's sovereignty.
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I'm still thinking of writing in Fred...my morals make it impossible to vote for McCain
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I am really, really sick to death of settling for the lesser of two evils each time I enter a voting booth...or is that the evil of two lessers.
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I am really, really sick to death of settling for the lesser of two evils each time I enter a voting booth.
Holding one's nose to vote is never pleasant. And if the goobermint has its boot on your neck, it doesn't matter if it's the Right one or the Left one.
However, as noted previously, "Numbers is what counts."
With the Hildabeest or BHusseinO you wouldn't have to worry about holding your nose...they will rub our collective gunowner faces in the dirt so hard, smelling will be a distant memory.
McLame is our only hope to survive the next term of POTUS with anything that resembles a firearm.
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Yeah, we can hold our nose vote for him and show the RNC that we will vote for whomever they stick in our face! That will show them that we aren't easy! ::)
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The reality for this election is that a vote for anyone else but John McCain will help either Obama or Clinton. If Bro'O or Ms. Clinton win, we will be a page or two off from living in a John Ross novel.
I just hope to hell he picks a good VP to run with him.
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The reality is i am sick of voting for the lesser. As I stated before a vote for McCain is a vote against American Sovereignty.
I will stand for my rights against all comers so I will vote (or not) as my moral compass points. Will you?
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The reality is i am sick of voting for the lesser. As I stated before a vote for McCain is a vote against American Sovereignty.
I will stand for my rights against all comers so I will vote (or not) as my moral compass points. Will you?
I don't know >:( I hate The Manchurian candidateas much as the other 2 but I would vote for a dog turd to keep democrats from soiling the WhiteHouse and my intelligence again. McCain only has 2 things going for him, He's old enough to die in office, (of natural causes I mean ) and his VP will at least be a Republican.
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I don't know >:( I hate The Manchurian candidateas much as the other 2 but I would vote for a dog turd to keep democrats from soiling the WhiteHouse and my intelligence again. McCain only has 2 things going for him, He's old enough to die in office, (of natural causes I mean ) and his VP will at least be a Republican.
That's pretty much the point I had reached, so now in addition to Congress, we need to ensure a friend of ours as VP.
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Voting is not just about casting your vote for the best qualified. It is also about taking what choices you have and voting against what or who is the least qualified.
Voting is not about taking the moral high road. It can also be about keeping the lesser of two evils away from a position that would make your values, standards and/or “moral compass” without bearing come the third week of January.
Voting can be like having to choose between having a .380ACP or nothing. You know you would rather have a 45ACP but all you got is the .380ACP and it’s better than the alternative.
Obama or Clinton (or Lord help us both) will be running against McCain. While one may not like McCain, not voting for McCain … such as “writing in” someone, voting “Green” or voting “Libertarian” … will only help to get either Obama or Clinton elected in November.
Given what we know about Obama and Clinton (economic and security issues aside) is that they are both anti-gun. With a liberal House and Senate, our gun rights are going to be stepped on should Obama or Clinton get elected. Ammo registration, “smart guns”, magazine bans, range bans, “assault rifle” bans and micro-stamping all on a federal level (which is why people in “The Republik of Kalifornia” and elsewhere need to fight these issues now so they don’t gain momentum and roll into other states or become national later).
You decide. Take the moral road against McCain as admirable as it is will only help Obama or Clinton. This is a real tough call but if you don’t want your gun rights to be stepped on you might have to alter your compass setting.
Lastly, while I will disagree with the premise of not voting for McCain as to support one’s moral convictions, I sincerely respect anyone for doing it.
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My stance is that Obama will win! I have no doubt in my mind, and if I'm wrong I will be more than happy to take all you can dish out! My question fom this point is how to vote that would show the upmost dissaproval of all candidates?
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My question fom this point is how to vote that would show the upmost dissaproval of all candidates?
Voting can be like having to choose between having a .380ACP or nothing. You know you would rather have a 45ACP but all you got is the .380ACP and it’s better than the alternative.
You MUST vote for the lesser of the three evils. There may not be an ideal candidate on the ballet, but you must put the most conservative candidate into office that you can and then try to hold his feet to the fire once he is elected. Anything less is surrender. Yes, McCain may not get the country moving in the right direction, but having him in office as apposed to Hillary or Obama will at the very least stem the tide of far left lunacy for four more years.
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My stance is that Obama will win! I have no doubt in my mind, and if I'm wrong I will be more than happy to take all you can dish out! My question fom this point is how to vote that would show the upmost dissaproval of all candidates?
With the Hildabeest or BHusseinO you wouldn't have to worry about holding your nose...they will rub our collective gunowner faces in the dirt so hard, smelling will be a distant memory.
McLame is our only hope to survive the next term of POTUS with anything that resembles a firearm.
Man, I would like to express my displeasure with just about everybody in public office too! But the vote and/or lack of vote in this case is not the tool to use.
If people decide to not vote because they want to voice their opposition to the madness, we will get a candidate elected that we won’t like. If we were to vote for “none of the above” as Jesse Ventura has stated he would like to do, it too will elect a candidate we won’t like. Your valiant effort to “protest the choices” and be heard will be like the tree falling in the forest with no one there to hear it.
The vote is not the tool to use to express displeasure in a candidate or their platform. Instead, be vocal. Write letters. Get to political events and let your candidate know how you feel. Get others to join you and let your voice be heard.
The 2008 vote will be a critical vote for our country’s security, freedoms (as in the 2nd Amendment) and getting or not getting ass-hammered on taxes. There is too much to lose by throwing your vote to “none of the above” or to someone of lesser ego that is running.
As to the 2nd Amendment rights, like what Kmitch stated, smelling this freedom will be a distant memory if either Obama or Clinton win. They are both anti-gun and if either are elected will sincerely abbreviate your right to keep and bear arms.
Would love to have a better option than McCain. But there isn’t.
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I won't respect myself in the morning but I'll probably vote for the SOB just to keep out Karl Obama Marx and Attla the liberal
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Amen Tom.
One of the more interesting classes I took when I was sober in college was Marxist Economics. The rhetoric that Obama & Clinton speak and in the books they have written (Clinton, It Takes a Village and Obama with The Audacity of Hope and Barak Obama In His Own Words by Rogak) are right out of Karl’s preaching of socialism.
As to the anti-gun positions they take, should Obama or Clinton be elected in November I predict a HUGE run on ammo and guns.
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Amen Tom.
One of the more interesting classes I took when I was sober in college was Marxist Economics. The rhetoric that Obama & Clinton speak and in the books they have written (Clinton, It Takes a Village and Obama with The Audacity of Hope and Barak Obama In His Own Words by Rogak) are right out of Karl’s preaching of socialism.
As to the anti-gun positions they take, should Obama or Clinton be elected in November I predict a HUGE run on ammo and guns.
I think you are mistaken. The name of her book is It takes a Government to raise a child.
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I think you are mistaken. The name of her book is It takes a Government to raise a child.
Listening to these Liberal a$$holes its a wonder we ever got out of caves without their "Enlightened laedership".
The reason I use dollar signs in my discription of them is because thats what its all about. The old time "spoils system" run rampant.