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Title: Pics from a small bit of Heaven!
Post by: Timothy on July 22, 2012, 03:56:03 PM
These were taken this morning from the deck of my brothers house...a bit of heaven!

An $800,000.00 view!  About a mile from Long Island Sound on the head of the Niantic River, Waterford, CT...

(http://i384.photobucket.com/albums/oo283/tsbevins/7-22001.jpg)

(http://i384.photobucket.com/albums/oo283/tsbevins/7-22004.jpg)

No fish to report...good fun, a few beers, good company and some laughs..
Title: Re: Pics from a small bit of Heaven!
Post by: MikeBjerum on July 22, 2012, 04:23:43 PM
Enjoy the time and the company!
Title: Re: Pics from a small bit of Heaven!
Post by: alfsauve on July 22, 2012, 05:13:14 PM
Very nice. But where's the range? For 800K I want a range.
Title: Re: Pics from a small bit of Heaven!
Post by: jnevis on July 22, 2012, 05:34:34 PM
My wife's friend lives in Niantic just down the river from there.  We visit periodically.


 I'd go less often if given the chance....
Title: Re: Pics from a small bit of Heaven!
Post by: tombogan03884 on July 22, 2012, 05:35:10 PM
The hurricane of 1938 sent a 50 ft storm surge through there at high tide pushed by a 150 MPH wind.
The storm surge changed the coastlines of Long Island, Rhode Island and Conn.
The storm surge hit with such force that it registered on seismographs in Alaska.
Weather report was "scattered showers, possibly heavy at times"
Title: Re: Pics from a small bit of Heaven!
Post by: Pathfinder on July 22, 2012, 05:38:39 PM
The hurricane of 1938 sent a 50 ft storm surge through there at high tide pushed by a 150 MPH wind.

Damn, you are just one giant ray of sunshine there, Tom!!!!  ;D
Title: Re: Pics from a small bit of Heaven!
Post by: Timothy on July 22, 2012, 05:38:52 PM
Very nice. But where's the range? For 800K I want a range.

There are several ranges near the house but Pat doesn't shoot or hunt much anymore.  Believe it or not, he paid about 150K for the property and house (circa 1930).  He dropped another 300K rebuilding the house because it was a real shithole.  He doubled the size, put in a third bedroom, two more baths and a pool room!  Today, after 15 years of hard work it's value is 800K +, but with that comes 10K or more in taxes just on the property.  He works his butt off designing advanced delivery systems for submarines at General Dynamics!  He spent Friday in San Diego in day long meetings with the Navy Seals...

I'll say no more.... ;)
Title: Re: Pics from a small bit of Heaven!
Post by: Timothy on July 22, 2012, 05:41:01 PM
The hurricane of 1938 sent a 50 ft storm surge through there at high tide pushed by a 150 MPH wind.
The storm surge changed the coastlines of Long Island, Rhode Island and Conn.
The storm surge hit with such force that it registered on seismographs in Alaska.
Weather report was "scattered showers, possibly heavy at times"

My father was in boot camp in Newport in 1938.  He spent his liberty digging bodies out of parked cars down on the beach!  People drove down there to watch the storm...
Title: Re: Pics from a small bit of Heaven!
Post by: Timothy on July 22, 2012, 05:42:45 PM
My wife's friend lives in Niantic just down the river from there.  We visit periodically.


 I'd go less often if given the chance....

In spite of the politics, Niantic is a great little town!  The problem is the population triples in the summer!

In those pictures I posted, you're looking at the Niantic side of the river looking due west...
Title: Re: Pics from a small bit of Heaven!
Post by: tombogan03884 on July 22, 2012, 05:52:39 PM
Damn, you are just one giant ray of sunshine there, Tom!!!!  ;D

I just finished a book about the storm I had heard vague mention of from older relatives over the years.
Stuff like "Oh yes, that was the year of the big hurricane".
The day Hitler moved into Czechoslovakia a category 5 hurricane hit the area with no warning at all .
Some stats on the result
The center of Providence RI had 12 of water,
Over 700 dead, 63,000 homeless
9,000 buildings gone another 15,000 damaged.
6,000 fishing boats destroyed or damaged .
It took 2 weeks for rail service to be restored  10,000 men had to fill 1,000 wash outs repair 100 bridges and remove debris including houses and 30 boats from the tracks.
275,000,000, two hundred seventy five MILLION trees knocked down, 6 BILLION board feet of lumber
There was one lumbering family that used the last bundle of fire wood from the clean up in 1980

 :o
Title: Re: Pics from a small bit of Heaven!
Post by: Timothy on July 22, 2012, 05:58:26 PM
Off of Watch Hill Rhode Island where the Pawcatuck River empties into Little Narragansett Bay, after the 1938 storm there were so may refrigerators, stoves, washing machines, kitchen cabinets and other flotsam from the storm they nicknamed that little piece of water "The Kitchen"!

It's still called that to this day...

"Napatree Point has an interesting history. It was originally connected to Sandy Point, Connecticut—now an island off Stonington—until the Great Hurricane of 1938 caused a breach in the spit. The huge storm reshaped much of the surrounding shore and destroyed numerous coastal homes. Indeed, the bottom of the anchorage remains littered with parts of cast-iron stoves, refrigerators and metal pipes, giving it the moniker “The Kitchen.”
Title: Re: Pics from a small bit of Heaven!
Post by: Timothy on July 22, 2012, 06:10:37 PM
The hurricane of 1938 sent a 50 ft storm surge through there at high tide pushed by a 150 MPH wind.

Pats house is easily 25 foot higher up the bank so was spared in the hurricane.  Others were not so lucky.  My sister in laws younger brother owns a 3 million dollar property he built about a mile south of my brothers.  He's a 1 percenter....and employs about 100 people in his side job as general contractor...  It has a 10 million dollar view for the low, low price of 2.5 to 3 million...
Title: Re: Pics from a small bit of Heaven!
Post by: tombogan03884 on July 22, 2012, 06:16:30 PM
Napatree Point had 44 nice summer cottages along Fort Rd at 3PM, at 7 PM it was a sand bar.
What you know as today's "Watch Hill" is less than 1/3 of the original, the rest washed away.
All that is impressive, but I can't get over 275 MILLION trees down in one afternoon
Title: Re: Pics from a small bit of Heaven!
Post by: Timothy on July 22, 2012, 06:57:15 PM
Napatree Point had 44 nice summer cottages along Fort Rd at 3PM, at 7 PM it was a sand bar.
What you know as today's "Watch Hill" is less than 1/3 of the original, the rest washed away.
All that is impressive, but I can't get over 275 MILLION trees down in one afternoon

Remember, in 1938 there was no building code or insurance!  Why we allow people to build houses on the beach is the question!

Today, that area is somewhat protected or insured by taxpayer subsidized flood insurance.  Napatree point was one issue.  Based on the storm surge you've mentioned, the entire Watch Hill and Stonington coastline was 30 or 40 feet underwater as was New London, Groton, Niantic and points west and the Cape wasn't much better off!

Some of the most populated coastline in the country...
Title: Re: Pics from a small bit of Heaven!
Post by: Pathfinder on July 22, 2012, 07:24:28 PM
And Katherine Hepburn was in the midst of that 1938 storm too at her family's summer estate.
Title: Re: Pics from a small bit of Heaven!
Post by: tombogan03884 on July 22, 2012, 09:25:07 PM
And Katherine Hepburn was in the midst of that 1938 storm too at her family's summer estate.

Her, her brother, and a friend of theirs were swimming, when the back of the house and 2 chimneys blew away brother said "it's time to go".   :o

Thing about Napatree Point was those "cottages"  were not little shacks, they were wealthy peoples places, 2 two story's and you dressed for dinner served by "the help".
The damage totaled more than the 1906 San Francisco earthquake and the Chicago fire combined.
One thing worth mentioning, The Mayor of Providence declared Martial law and ordered looters shot, and they were.
People trapped in buildings by the flood reported gunshots all night long.

There have been 3 hurricanes known to have followed that path, 1655, 1815, and 1938 . 1938 was the worst.
There is an annual high pressure area that forms in the Atlantic called the "Bermuda High" that funnels storms toward the Gulf and Southern Atlantic coast, In this case there was also a high pressure front sitting on the East coast that forced the storm East of it's usual track, it stayed about 100 miles off the coast which aimed it straight at Long Island.
Title: Re: Pics from a small bit of Heaven!
Post by: Timothy on July 22, 2012, 09:29:13 PM
Thing about Napatree Point was those "cottages"  were not little shacks, they were wealthy peoples places, 2 two story's and you dressed for dinner served by "the help".

But, they weren't built to todays standards!  Most coastal homes are built to withstand the wind damage in CT but nothing can stop a storm surge and a Cat 5 combined...Florida is better prepared today because of the frequency of the storms.  CT and MA only have to deal with a Cat 5 every 50 or 100 years.

In 1938, it wasn't a Cat 5....it was a good blow!
Title: Re: Pics from a small bit of Heaven!
Post by: tombogan03884 on July 22, 2012, 09:36:31 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saffir%E2%80%93Simpson_Hurricane_Scale

It only missed  Category 5 by 2 MPH, winds recorded at 155 MPH traveling at 60 MPH.
Title: Re: Pics from a small bit of Heaven!
Post by: Timothy on July 23, 2012, 07:27:46 AM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saffir%E2%80%93Simpson_Hurricane_Scale

It only missed  Category 5 by 2 MPH, winds recorded at 155 MPH traveling at 60 MPH.

What I meant was there wasn't a Saffir-Simpson scale in 1938...