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Member Section => Down Range Cafe => Topic started by: Bic on August 14, 2012, 09:59:17 AM
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via alex Jones so FWIW
http://www.infowars.com/national-weather-service-follows-dhs-in-huge-ammo-purchase/
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A solicitation which appears on the FedBizOpps website asks for 16,000 rounds of .40 S&W jacketed hollow point (JHP) bullets, noted for their strength, to be delivered to locations in Ellsworth, Maine, and New Bedford, Mass. A further 6,000 rounds of S&W JHP will be sent to Wall, New Jersey, with another 24,000 rounds of the same bullets heading to the weather station in St. Petersburg, Florida.
The solicitation also asks for 500 paper targets to be delivered to the same locations in Maine, Massachusetts and New Jersey.
Hollow points for shooting at paper targets? They must have a money tree out back. Oh wait, that's our money. Nevermind.
Talk about government waste.
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Message sent to the following recipients:
Senator Ayotte
Message text follows:
Thomas Bogan
135 Pleasant St
Laconia, NH 03246-3337
August 14, 2012
[recipient address was inserted here]
[recipient name was inserted here],
Why on earth do the weather geeks at NOAA need pistol ammunition ?
Would you please look into this matter.
https://www.fbo.gov/index?s=opportunity&mode=form&tab=core&id=bfd95987a1ad9
a6dfb22bca4a19150cb&_cview=0
Thank you.
Sincerely,
Thomas Bogan
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WTF?
Why do weather-guessers need ammo?
Something stinky here. If it's true: and that is the question.
I saw it on Drudge, but the same link and I don't have much faith in Alex Jones.
Could be a very interesting election result no matter which way it turns out.
Crusader
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It could be some shooters taking advantage of the Gov's "bulk purchase" discount hoping that "NOAA" just blends in with all the other initials.
If so we just screwed them hard. ;D
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maybe we stumbled on an agency that doesn't exist - BIC didn't get hauled off in a dark sedan or a blacked out suburban did he? :o
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Got this robo acknowledgement
Thank you for submitting your comments through my website. This automatic e-mail is to confirm that my office has received your message. Please know that we read each letter and e-mail and will do our utmost to get you a timely response addressing your thoughts and concerns.
Sincerely,
Signature
Kelly A. Ayotte
U. S. Senator
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maybe we stumbled on an agency that doesn't exist - BIC didn't get hauled off in a dark sedan or a blacked out suburban did he? :o
stay tuned :)
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stay tuned :)
What's that 'whump whump whump' noise outside??
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I'm going to guess that NOAA has buildings full of lots of very expensive equipment. Do they contract out security or keep it internal? If they do it themselves, they need ammo for their firearms. Big IF. It's sketchy either way.
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It's for shooting down rogue weather balloons. ::) ::) ::)
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I don't know and I'm not defending the NWS, but could it be for defense of strategic weather stations? But that begs the question of why they aren't protected by some other federal agency.
Is NWS part of tracking/predicting radioactive fallout in the event of a nuclear attack?
Hopefully we'll learn more.
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NOAA has its own LE Division and enforcement depts. They are licensed to protect a large area of fisheries and wildlife areas.,....with guess what?????
GUNS!!!!
http://www.nmfs.noaa.gov/ole/ole_about.html
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Extensive Area of Jurisdiction
NOAA's Office of Law Enforcement is responsible for carrying out more than 35 federal statutes. The agency's jurisdiction spans more than 3 million square miles of open ocean, more than 85,000 miles of U.S. coastline, the country's 13 National Marine Sanctuaries and its Marine National Monuments. It's also responsible for enforcing U.S. treaties and international law governing the high seas and international trade.
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Loosen up the tin-foil guys.......(For now),..... ;)
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There will always be waste in Govt. there is no reason the good guys shouldn't benefit once in a while.
Like buying tools through your employer so you get his discount.
Glad to see we did not screw some fellow shooters out of cheap ammo. ;D
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Now the SSA needs ammo? Again, Infowars is the source, so take it with a grain of salt, but . . . whiskey tango foxtrot?
http://www.infowars.com/social-security-administration-to-purchase-174-thousand-rounds-of-hollow-point-bullets/
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I think Alex Jones may end up hauled away in a straight jacket, and proven right in absentia. :-\
(From a non-Paul-Bot.) I also think he's already driven himself more than half crazy in doing what he does.. :P
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I can just visualize thousands of 70,80 and 90 year old seniors attacking the SSA in their walkers, wheelchairs and canes. It would more likely be the ones with the phoney disability payments etc who would be making the most noise.
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Don't underestimate old folks !
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Grandma won't get thrown off the cliff, too much trouble,....she'll just be shot...
Geez,.....Alex Jones? Seriously?
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Read yesterday or the day before that SS payments for those applying after that day will have there benefits calculated so that they will no longer get back all they paid in.
Those who signed up before then are just losing all the interest their payments would have earned. Now, you lose some of the principal also.
They might need the ammo after all.
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Come on guys.
If the Department of Education can have a SWAT team, everybody else can buy ammo.
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Here's what NOAA says they are going to do with the ammo and who it is really for. Following their explanation, this works out to < 350 rounds per agent.
http://www.businessinsider.com/this-is-why-the-noaa-supposedly-ordered-46000-rounds-of-ammunition-2012-8 (http://www.businessinsider.com/this-is-why-the-noaa-supposedly-ordered-46000-rounds-of-ammunition-2012-8)
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Thanks Ichiban...I kinda figured something along those lines,.....
Got one for the SSA?
Still adjusting my tin-foil hat...
(http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm182/twyacht/tinfoilhat.jpg)
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Thanks Ichiban...I kinda figured something along those lines,.....
Got one for the SSA?
Still adjusting my tin-foil hat...
(http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm182/twyacht/tinfoilhat.jpg)
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See my post.
SSA is ordering 174 thousand rounds of hollow point.
Sheesh.
Crusader
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There are close to 150 individual police/security agencies within a 50 mile radius of DC. Every Fed dept has thier own that only have jurisdiction on that Depts property. Even the FBI has a police force that patrols the one block around the Hoover Building.
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Message sent to the following recipients:
Senator Ayotte
Message text follows:
Thomas Bogan
135 Pleasant St
Laconia, NH 03246-3337
August 14, 2012
[recipient address was inserted here]
[recipient name was inserted here],
Why on earth do the weather geeks at NOAA need pistol ammunition ?
Would you please look into this matter.
https://www.fbo.gov/index?s=opportunity&mode=form&tab=core&id=bfd95987a1ad9
a6dfb22bca4a19150cb&_cview=0
Thank you.
Sincerely,
Thomas Bogan
Finally got a reply;
August 29, 2012
Dear Mr. Bogan:
Thank you for contacting me regarding federal agency purchases of ammunition. I appreciate hearing from you.
As you know, several federal agencies have recently contracted to purchase large amounts of ammunition. For example, the Social Security Administration purchased 174,000 rounds of .357 hollow point ammunition for its 295 special agents to utilize while on duty carrying out law enforcement actions such as investigating disability fraud and executing arrest warrants. The National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) ordered 46,000 hollow point rounds-originally listed due to a clerical error as destined for the National Weather Service-for NOAA Fisheries Office of Law Enforcement agents. The agencies have indicated that hollow point ammunition is standard issue for many federal law enforcement personnel.
As the former Attorney General for New Hampshire, I support ensuring that law enforcement officials have the equipment they need to carry out their duties. I also believe that, given our current fiscal crisis, federal agencies should ensure they are allocating resources responsibly to best accomplish their mission.
Again, thank you for taking the time to contact me. As your Senator, it is important that I hear from the people I represent regarding the current issues affecting New Hampshire and our nation. Please do not hesitate to be in touch again if I can be of further assistance.
Sincerely,
Signature
Kelly A. Ayotte
U. S. Senator
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Uhhh....what?
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There are close to 150 individual police/security agencies within a 50 mile radius of DC. Every Fed dept has thier own that only have jurisdiction on that Depts property. Even the FBI has a police force that patrols the one block around the Hoover Building.
They have that so the guys on the inside of the building can continue to spy on their coworkers.
F#ck your Buddy Incorporated - the guaranteed fastest way to advancement.
Friend of mine worked in the Hoover building. He said it was amazing to watch and listen to the 360 degree backstabbing.
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Sorry guys, I put in the request for the ammo. You should see some of the rough neighborhoods I go through while storm chasing. The bangers in the hood like shooting at my Jeep while sipping on their 40 ounce malt liquor. It is scary out there....
Just kidding.
Does make you wonder? But only 350 rounds per officer is not very much at all when you consider training, rotate in and out, etc. I try to keep at least 500 per pistol myself.