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Flying Dragon Productions ( Michael Bane ) => The Best Defense on My Outdoor TV => Topic started by: Ping on August 28, 2012, 11:43:09 AM
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A topic that I would find interesting to brainstorm is bathroom defense. I know we all can relate to the scene in "Psycho" when the attack occurs while showering. Items nearby to protect yourself such as open hand techniques, a towel, can of hairspray or shaving cream, dowel rod from a towel holder, etc.
What do you gals and guys think?
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So I'm the first to mention MB showering with his 1911? Cool! 8)
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Something like this ? ;D
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It seems that the best "first" defense is hardening your environment. Assuming you trust the folks living with you, it should not be a surprise when someone else penetrates your secured perimeter. That means an alarm, a dog, or just the kind of doors and hardware that would require noisy and labor-intensive effort to breach. Given that advanced warning, you would have time to access a weapon stored in the bathroom (not necessarily in the shower ;)). If you're unaware of an intruder's presence until he rips back the shower curtain then I think you've got some serious problems. In a motel or hotel situation you can still employ portable alarm devices such as door stop alarms or motion sensors.
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I whiz in a beaker and keep it in the shower with me to use to douse the bad guy.
It worked for James Bond in Never Say Never Again
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Or nunchaku soap on a rope! ;D There have been numerous residential entries/burglaries in my area lately. Thought it would be a great idea to hone in on. In previous seasons of the Best Defense different rooms were discussed, but the bathroom is the setting for your weakest moment.
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nobody would want to come in the bathroom after me....so I guess I have a natural defense
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I guess Glocks have their place.
(http://i755.photobucket.com/albums/xx191/saharrold/showergun.jpg)
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Along these lines I have struggled for years for a good routine for getting through the shower and dressed with a holster at the gym in the morning. Not a secure environment, not easy targets, not a gun unfriendly crowd, not really attentive at that time (at least I hope ;D ) and there is really only one entry/exit point. Timing doesn't really allow a return trip to the house, but I could if I really tried, so what I have come up with is just leaving the gun/holster locked up in the car and putting it on in the confines and privacy of my car-being very careful with muzzle orientation. Any better ideas, suggestions or routines you use? And no, its not a good excuse to quit going to the gym :)
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Along these lines I have struggled for years for a good routine for getting through the shower and dressed with a holster at the gym in the morning. Not a secure environment, not easy targets, not a gun unfriendly crowd, not really attentive at that time (at least I hope ;D ) and there is really only one entry/exit point. Timing doesn't really allow a return trip to the house, but I could if I really tried, so what I have come up with is just leaving the gun/holster locked up in the car and putting it on in the confines and privacy of my car-being very careful with muzzle orientation. Any better ideas, suggestions or routines you use? And no, its not a good excuse to quit going to the gym :)
Yes it is.
You want to be "in shape" ?
Round is a shape ! ;D
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Get an LCP and carry it in your gym shorts.
Just have to clean it up after sweating all over it.
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I know a guy who keeps a .38 in a plastic bag inside his comode tank.
No, it's not me. But it ain't that bad an idea.......
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I know a guy who keeps a .38 in a plastic bag inside his comode tank.
No, it's not me. But it ain't that bad an idea.......
Ahhhh.... the old "Godfather" tactic........ hadn't thought of that one.
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Mount it to the back of the tank, you won't have to mess with the lid.
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The best defense is a good offense. Eat a lot of beans, cashews, and eggs, and drink diet soda. You'll be safe in the can.
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The best defense is a good offense. Eat a lot of beans, cashews, and eggs, and drink diet soda. You'll be safe in the can.
But the next person to use it won't be. ;D
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I quit going to the gym and work out at home to save money. Must say that I miss the view of the ladies, but at least I do not get slapped by my wife for gawking after my radar goes off. LOL ;D
Must say that the tobasco and ghost peppers I have eaten lately not only have killed the cancer in my body, but also my social status. It is just evil as it leaves the body. :-X
As for the restroom, I have taken notice of different things that may become projectiles and articles for inner defense. Lysol, hair spray, metal bars that are towel holders. Razors, Listerine, bottles of cologne or perfume becoming missiles after being sprayed to blind or incapacitate momentarily.
Using the top of the toilet to bust out the window to establish an escape route. Toilet paper roll holders to use on pressure points or other vulnerable areas.
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I found an inexpensive "knife on a rope" to wear around my neck. Water resistent and all that. Probably could hang it on the showerhead and another on the clothes hook on the door under my wife's robe. Soap on a rope looks good also as well as a sturdy shower brush. Don't forget a lighter to ignite that hairspray or whatever. Also a hollowed out book with something moisture resistent tucked away inside...even on vacation. Kinda hard to manuver in a small BR so some hand to hand knowledge also, maybe.
FWIW
Richard
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I am ROFL at the responses. ;D But the serious answer? Grab them by the neck and don't let go. When they are armed and you're not at close quarters? Its the time for violence of action. Close with them, hit and just keep on hitting until one of you is done. It ain't elegant or pretty (particularly if its me naked out of the shower :o), but at least I'll be slippery and mean. Just pound the SOB. Don't hesitate, or you forfeit initative. Just my .02.
FQ13
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Actually I'd have to say that FQ has hit on the most practical reply yet.
"There are no dangerous weapons, only dangerous people"
The flip side of that is if you have the proper mind set sheer unhesitating, unrestricted violence is quite capable of overcoming an armed foe who expects intimidated compliance.
Especially if you are soapy, wet, and close.
The prime requirements are fight as dirty as possibly and be fast, no hesitation.
As soon as you perceive the threat you must be gauging out an eyeball tearing off an ear and kicking him in the crotch.
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There's always the toilet tank lid for a quick, blunt object. If it breaks, all the better. You now have point and edge weapons.
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There's always the toilet tank lid for a quick, blunt object. If it breaks, all the better. You now have point and edge weapons.
That's exactly what I was getting at, and I think FQ was as well .
It alo applies to "gun control"
If you are determined to inflict violence any movable object can become a viable tool to do so.
In the Bath room ?
soap in a wash cloth as a quickie black jack,or strangle them with a towel.
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There's always the toilet tank lid for a quick, blunt object. If it breaks, all the better. You now have point and edge weapons.
If you have time to retrieve the lid, you have time to grab the Glock ( ;D ;D) you set on top of it.
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Especially if you are soapy, wet, and close.
The prime requirements are fight as dirty as possibly and be fast, no hesitation.
Aren't these contradictary statements? ;D
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Aren't these contradictary statements? ;D
You can be physically clean while achieving extreme levels of moral filth ;D
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If you have time to retrieve the lid, you have time to grab the Glock ( ;D ;D) you set on top of it.
I absolutely agree Solus! +1
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So now that I'm done with school, for a while, and I'm back in the gym on a regular basis I have found that going an hour to an hour and a half with out access to a firearm is uncomfortable. So I picked up something from the IDPA indoor nationals that was covered on some other Outdoor Channel show and began off body carry in my gym bag (the bag with the heavy bag gloves, chalk, lifting belt, straps and wraps) which has accompanied me for years to a number of gyms. The only issue I have found is just making sure I have it close at hand, which really isn't as big an issue as not having a gun close at hand. As a benefit my situational awareness is much higher as I know who is where and who doesn't belong.
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As for the gym, when I left Chrysler I decided to quit the gym also to save on expenses. I have enough equipment at home and a park nearby so I am able to carry or have one nearby during the workout. Not as much fun but that is where self discipline kicks in. Great call out and something to consider.
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I think thewholepoint is to stop them BEFORE you are nekkid in the shower. My allarm is always on even when I am home. I have a gun within 5 steps of the shower. Thanks for the image of our beloved MB in the shower with the 1911. That is never gonna go away!!
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So now that I'm done with school, for a while, and I'm back in the gym on a regular basis I have found that going an hour to an hour and a half with out access to a firearm is uncomfortable. So I picked up something from the IDPA indoor nationals that was covered on some other Outdoor Channel show and began off body carry in my gym bag (the bag with the heavy bag gloves, chalk, lifting belt, straps and wraps) which has accompanied me for years to a number of gyms. The only issue I have found is just making sure I have it close at hand, which really isn't as big an issue as not having a gun close at hand. As a benefit my situational awareness is much higher as I know who is where and who doesn't belong.
Sometimes you have to carry off body or not carry at all. When I'm at the gym (I have a garage gym so I don't usually have to worry about it, but I still do make 'guest appearances' at public gyms from time to time) or competing in a strongman contest, I usually keep it in a holster in my gym bag. It's not always "right there" but it's a hell of a lot closer than being in your car or at home.
When I play rugby, I usually leave my firearm at home. I obviously can't play a full contact sport with a pistol tucked in the waistband of my shorts and it's not safe to leave it in my kit bag on the sidelines. There are too many kids running around on the sidelines and I'm not going to endanger them by leaving a gun where it's accessible and unattended. I also like to have a few beers after the match (nature's pain reliever), so it's best to leave the firearm at home.
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Since I posted the previous response I started working out at night with the family and I've come up with a Lexan piece that fits in the computer pocket of my bag (the other one was stolen out of my car-2nd one damn tweakers) and attached the holster and a mag pouch that came with my XDM. The bag moves with me through the gym and I am always scanning.
One of the employees asked me to put the bag in the provided cubby holes to keep the gym from getting cluttered. WTF? I ignored him and he hasn't said a word in a month or I'd talk to his boss and just about everyone that lifts weights seriously, as opposed to the cardio crowd, has a bag.