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Member Section => Down Range Cafe => Topic started by: Magoo541 on September 11, 2012, 10:21:05 AM
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http://www.infowars.com/16-year-old-questioned-by-fbi-over-you-tube-video/
Some stuff we've already posted here is covered in the last paragraph:
"Last month former Marine Brandon Raub was kidnapped by authorities and held in a psychiatric ward for political posts made on Facebook, just one of thousands of similar ongoing cases. Gun owners are also having their firearms confiscated having been declared “mentally defective” due to their political beliefs."
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I tend to disbelieve anything from Info wars with out some other verification.
There is no question that the G exceeds their legitimate boundaries, however some of these sites like "Info wars, Lew Rockwell etc. are flat out "tin foil" hysterics.
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http://www.infowars.com/16-year-old-questioned-by-fbi-over-you-tube-video/
Some stuff we've already posted here is covered in the last paragraph:
"Last month former Marine Brandon Raub was kidnapped by authorities and held in a psychiatric ward for political posts made on Facebook, just one of thousands of similar ongoing cases. Gun owners are also having their firearms confiscated having been declared “mentally defective” due to their political beliefs."
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Personally, I'd have a great deal more confidence if this came from somewhere other than Prison Planet. Alex Jones and his adoring minions spend an awful lot of time examining self-defined conspiracies happening in La-La Land.
Now, understand I do not believe the Fibbies are beyond this kind of underhanded and un-American activity, and the plight of the young Marine was certainly well documented, but I think Prison Planet spends a lot of time churning tempests in teacups.
Still, it does not hurt to be aware of these possibilities and it is wise to publicize what we know to be true.
A large percentage of Americans have apparently lost sight of the fact that we were formed as a democratic republic where each person has an equal opportunity without a guarantee of equal outcomes. At this point in our history, it seems that a increasing percentage of non-working Americans are perfectly willing to live off the hard work and great effort of an increasingly shrinking number of working citizens. They are being aided in this effort by an increasingly leftist government that seems dedicated to making us all dependent upon government largess.
These are certainly strange times and our Constitution is daily trampled upon by what appears to be an increasingly empirical presidency. Still, large numbers of our fellows seem willing to give up their God-given rights for a little government chump change. They appear intent on continuing the erosion of our Constitutional rights.
Until recently, I rather felt I would be mouldering in the ground before seeing a completely socialist state, or the beginning of a revolution by people who still believe in the Constitution. Lately, the pace of change seems to be increasing. My excellent health evaluation by docs at the VA have me worried that I'll still be alive when the throw-down takes place. I don't know if that is good news, or bad.
Just some thoughts,
Crusader Rabbit
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You want to talk about "conspiracy theories" stick with ones that can be documented, like the Frankfort School plot to undermine Western society who's current face is George Soros and the Dem party. That one is easily proven through financial documents, news paper files, You Tube videos, and voting records .
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Seriously, if things were as dire as Alex Jones says they are, wouldn't he have been disappeared years ago? Just a thought.
FQ13
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Seriously, if things were as dire as Alex Jones says they are, wouldn't he have been disappeared years ago? Just a thought.
FQ13
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I think "they" leak information so we will dismiss it as the ramblings of a lunatic if it is ever reported. Sometimes the best place to hide something is in plain sight. ;D
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I wasn't aware these guys were part of the tinfoil hat crowd, I guess I need get out more ;D
What gave it credibility with me was the vet that was "hospitalized" for his FB posts against his will as that was well documented.
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I wasn't aware these guys were part of the tinfoil hat crowd, I guess I need get out more ;D
What gave it credibility with me was the vet that was "hospitalized" for his FB posts against his will as that was well documented.
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That's the thing about that group of sites.
They will take one or two facts that are easily verifiable and add a whole bunch of stuff that isn't.
Kind of like a "scientist who builds an entire culture based on one bone fragment.
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That's the thing about that group of sites.
They will take one or two facts that are easily verifiable and add a whole bunch of stuff that isn't.
Kind of like a "scientist who builds an entire culture based on one bone fragment.
Or the bigfoot "researchers" who maintain that the fact that no carcass has ever been discovered is PROOF that the creatures not only exist, but that they bury their dead the same way humans do.
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Never mind guns, it's scientists we should regulate.
http://news.yahoo.com/mammoth-fragments-siberia-raise-cloning-hopes-165221958.html
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I think "they" leak information so we will dismiss it as the ramblings of a lunatic if it is ever reported. Sometimes the best place to hide something is in plain sight. ;D
It never ceases to amaze me when some eggregius move is made by the feds (usually highy publicized) and people will still look at you and tell you that can't be because they can't do that. When you show them the facts and say "They just did" thn YOU ar the idiot. ::)
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I think "they" leak information so we will dismiss it as the ramblings of a lunatic if it is ever reported. Sometimes the best place to hide something is in plain sight. ;D
It never ceases to amaze me when some eggregius move is made by the feds (usually highy publicized) and people will still look at you and tell you that can't be because they can't do that. When you show them the facts and say "They just did" thn YOU ar the idiot. ::)
If that were the case then how come there is no mention in the less paranoid sources, , Newsmax, IJ, Blaze, Hotwire, Breitbart, etc. ?
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Should have clarified my point. I have no use for prison planet. I thin they are conspirocy nuts, and not to be taken seriously. My point was to the people who will believe a source like that, but won't believe you when EVERY news outlet in the country is spouting off about BO taking the work requrement out of welfare. They look at you like YOU have the tin foil on and say that he can't do that.
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Understood now.
Not looking to start a fight, but just in case you were including my NDAA opinion, I'll post this link to something Santahog inspired me to post last night.
Crap, I forgot to add the link ;D
Here it is
http://www.downrange.tv/forum/index.php?topic=20550.0
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First I had seen it. And I agree. Unfortunately human nature is something that will probably never change. Those who understand it have much better odds when it comes to dealing with these clowns.
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Our govt is kind of weird that way. They will skirt, and misrepresent, but if you leave them no wiggle room they will try to get the law changed, but they will adhere to it.
An example, they will pick through your trash, monitor what you post, intercept your cell phone calls, and place a tracking device on your car parked in your drive way.
But after the trouble the FBI and CIA got in your mail is safe, even when you leave it in an unattended box on a street corner.