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Member Section => Down Range Cafe => Topic started by: PegLeg45 on September 14, 2012, 07:46:41 PM
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Here is a video of the citizen (Vic Stacy) that helped the cop during that RV park shooting incident a while back.
Vic Stacy, the resident of Peach House RV Park who came to the aid of Early Police Sgt. Steven Means Sunday after two people were killed by Charles Ronald Conner, insists he's not a hero — he just did what had to be done. Stacy told the Brownwood Bulletin when he saw that the police officer couldn't get a good shot at the gunman, "I jumped in there, put that first shot in him, and knocked him down."
Here are portions of the interview.
Story here:
http://www.kens5.com/news/Armed-good-Samaritan-praised-for-shooting-suspect-in-trailer-park-standoff-165740216.html
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what a guy.
not a bad shot either 165yrds with a 357 under pressure and then under fire
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Was it a rifle or a pistol? Hell, I couldn't hit a house at 165 yards with a non scoped handgun. I'd have been more effective just insulting the guy to distract him. Good shootin' Tex! ;D
FQ13
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Was it a rifle or a pistol? Hell, I couldn't hit a house at 165 yards with a non scoped handgun. I'd have been more effective just insulting the guy to distract him. Good shootin' Tex! ;D
FQ13
The story said a .357 magnum pistol at as much as 150 yds. And he hit the bad guy 4 times. Very good shooting.
The article also said the bad guy had an Assault Rifle, but who knows what a reporter might consider that to be.
A quote from Stacy makes me question that.
"I saw him turn the gun around toward my direction and I saw him throw another one in the chamber and he took another shot at me. And that’s when I put three more in him," said Stacy
It's the throw another one in the chamber I wonder about....sounds more like a bolt action, though it might be releasing the bolt after a mag reload.
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I'd say either bolt or lever.
Going by media claims it was an "assault weapon" it might have been a single shot.
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The story said a .357 magnum pistol at as much as 150 yds. And he hit the bad guy 4 times. Very good shooting.
The article also said the bad guy had an Assault Rifle, but who knows what a reporter might consider that to be.
A quote from Stacy makes me question that.
"I saw him turn the gun around toward my direction and I saw him throw another one in the chamber and he took another shot at me. And that’s when I put three more in him," said Stacy
It's the throw another one in the chamber I wonder about....sounds more like a bolt action, though it might be releasing the bolt after a mag reload.
Personally I think the guy ought to apply for the position of fire arms instructor for the NYPD. ;D
FQ13 Who could learn a thing or two from him as well. 4 hits at 165 yards with a pistol when someone was shooting back at you? That's hard core.
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An honest, simple, and courageous man... that would be disarmed by Schumer, Feinstein, and other Washington vermin.
I pray that Mr. Stacy never loses a single night of sleep over his heroic actions.
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I find the 165 yard shots on target a rather incredulous claim.
None the less, the man is a certified hero.
Crazy guy had a 30-30. I'm guessing it was a lever gun.
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I find the 165 yard shots on target a rather incredulous claim.
None the less, the man is a certified hero.
Crazy guy had a 30-30. I'm guessing it was a lever gun.
Not really...... IHMSA shooters do it regularly.
I used to shoot metallic silhouette matches with .22lr, .357mag, and .44mag .......at ranges of 25 yards to 200 yards (depending on caliber).......and those long range rams are much smaller than a man.
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I find the 165 yard shots on target a rather incredulous claim.
None the less, the man is a certified hero.
Crazy guy had a 30-30. I'm guessing it was a lever gun.
The story said "up to 150ft.". My guess is that it was 150 from his front door to the bad guys tree and Stacy was closing the distance as he shot so they don't really know from where he was making his 4 shots.
Actually, if he was closing while the bad guy was taking shots at him only speaks more for his courage.
I respect his actions and hope I'd give as good an accounting of myself should I find myself in a similar situation.
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A 5"-6" sight radius, standing (presumably) at 165 yards? I wouldn't even know where to begin. Maybe hold 1 foot high on the first shot then work my way up? I need to revise my training. I've never shot more than 30 yards (across the street distance) on an indoor range, and even plinking (under hold my beer and watch this conditions) I've never gone beyond 50 yards, and there I walked them up to the target. Obviously I need to train harder or some old fart from an East Texas trailer park will take my ass out if I don't! ;D
FQ13 Who has a new appreciation that a hand gun isn't just a really long club. You can actually reach out and touch someone with it, and not just a fancy scope mounted match gun, as I doubt this guy was using a $2k scoped special edition anything. That's me schooled.
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I thought it said 150 feet, not yards. I have to go look again.
The article did say, "Police estimate Stacy was shooting from as much as 150 feet away." I didn't watch the video to see if what it said was different.
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I thought it said 150 feet, not yards. I have to go look again.
The article did say, "Police estimate Stacy was shooting from as much as 150 feet away." I didn't watch the video to see if what it said was different.
That makes a lot more sense. Still, four out of six with a revolver on a target at fifty yards under fire? Due respect to the boys in uniform, but I'll pay you ten dollars a head for every Navy SEAL who can honestly claim he'd have done better.
FQ13
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A 5"-6" sight radius, standing (presumably) at 165 yards? I wouldn't even know where to begin. Maybe hold 1 foot high on the first shot then work my way up? I need to revise my training. I've never shot more than 30 yards (across the street distance) on an indoor range, and even plinking (under hold my beer and watch this conditions) I've never gone beyond 50 yards, and there I walked them up to the target. Obviously I need to train harder or some old fart from an East Texas trailer park will take my ass out if I don't! ;D
FQ13 Who has a new appreciation that a hand gun isn't just a really long club. You can actually reach out and touch someone with it, and not just a fancy scope mounted match gun, as I doubt this guy was using a $2k scoped special edition anything. That's me schooled.
I'm with you, FQ..... it was 20 years ago when I was shooting the IHMSA matches I mentioned earlier. I doubt I could hit consistently at 100 yds now, let alone 150-200.........and can't afford .44 ammo to practice.
As to hold-over....you would be surprised at how little it needs to be at 150 yards. Of course it all depends on the load and barrel length, but a medium load for .357 magnum has a MPBR of around 125 yards, so you wouldn't need to hold over as much as one would think.
Here is a table with some common rounds listed...... of course there are variables and YMMV.
http://www.chuckhawks.com/handgun_trajectory_table.htm
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People regularly hunt with .357 revolvers, 4" and longer the better. I had fun shooting my 2" snubby out to 50 and 100 yards on IDPA silhouettes. Even that was pretty flat shooting out to 100 yards.
Now Mucilek can hit a soda can shooting a S&W snubby upside down at 100 yards. I doubt he could do it the soda can was shooting back though!
I too hope the fella can get a good nights rest and sleep in the knowledge that he did what he had to do. No mention of his military status but it would appear he may have had some practice under fire.