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Member Section => Down Range Cafe => Topic started by: wtr100 on October 16, 2012, 10:46:39 PM
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is he nuts or did the NRA hack his teleprompter
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He did. Your ears weren't lying.
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http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2012/10/16/debate-obama-romney-town-hall/1637103/ (http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2012/10/16/debate-obama-romney-town-hall/1637103/)
Answering a question about gun control, Obama said he would support reinstituting a ban on assault weapons, such as a federal law that expired, but said the nation needs to go further to address the causes of violence by improving schools and creating opportunity for young people.
Romney said he, too, wants to change a culture of violence but added, "I'm not in favor of new pieces of legislation on guns."
Crowley, the moderator, noted that Romney had supported an assault-weapon ban as governor of Massachusetts. Obama, at his next opportunity to speak, said, "Governor Romney was for an assault-weapon ban before he was against it."
What will Romney do? That is the big question. However, right now we have one speaking for it, and one speaking against it. One has been a part of the failed policies of peaceful Chicago and still thinks it is the way to go. The other has tried it and now speaks against it. I will take my chances with the man that is talking of enforcing current law rather than stripping us of more rights.
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My top three reasons for not voting for Pres. BHO next month:
1. Lack of respect for the First Amendment: He has taken our Constitution's words of freedom of religion, and the left's view of freedom from religion to a clear stance of freedom from Christianity and a Judeo Christian God and Savior;
2. Lack of respect for life: His belief of abortion being a right as opposed to a birth control option was bad enough for me to not vote for him, but his mandate through his health payment plan that requires coverage of it regardless of your belief falls right over the edge;
3. Total disregard for the Second Amendment: A second amendment in our Bill of Rights and we are only at number two. Can anybody say ten for ten by the time he gets done? Don't believe it can't happen, because once he does away with the Second there is no stopping tyranny!
By the way, in the second question where BHO was first the questioner asked about the Secretary of Energy not being there to lower gas prices. BHO sidestepped the question, and he claimed he was producing more energy than ever. He also bragged about his mandate to double fuel economy. If all of this is so great, why are we paying more than twice for fuel today as opposed to election day 2008? Better yet, why didn't the moderator hold to her promise to force him to answer the questions directly?
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is he nuts or did the NRA hack his teleprompter
I haven't seen that video footage yet, sooooooo....
There's gonna be another theater shooting right before the election... Is that what he is saying?
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I haven't seen that video footage yet, sooooooo....
There's gonna be another theater shooting right before the election... Is that what he is saying?
I'm thinking more like a "Vince Foster" tragedy but they will find Eric Holder with a bean burritto up his arse slumped over the Lincoln Monument wearing a straw hat with a boom box by his side playing La Macarena and a smile on his face....just a day before someone leaks out that his degree is phony. Only he's stoned out of his mind and says he was abducted by white nazi, tea party, airsoft gun owners from Arizona that had voted illegally for Sheriff Arpaio that have grudge while clinging to yet another bean burritto and saying it all with a grin...whilst looking longingly at the other bean burritto in his hand.
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He always has backed not only an Assault Weapons Ban, but the strictest from of gun control imaginable.....If he could get it. If any of it made it to his desk he would sign it. I really don't see how anyone could possibly not see that? The liberals want full bore gun control. The bulk of the people don't. That is the only reason they don't go after it. At least for now. As soon as they get enough idiots to vote for them that will change.
Right now gun control is a losing issue for the dems. All political risk coupled with no reward. But it continues to headline their platform. All that is keeping it from happening is the people. Most of the 100 Senators along with the 535 House members know that jumping on the gun control band wagon isn't going to help their political careers. The only ones that can get away with it are guys like Schumer who have a majority of heavy liberal constituents. And for the time being, they are in the minority. Besides right now people are more worried about putting food on the table, than they are about the guy down the street owning an AK-47.
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My top three reasons for not voting for Pres. BHO next month:
1. Lack of respect for the First Amendment: He has taken our Constitution's words of freedom of religion, and the left's view of freedom from religion to a clear stance of freedom from Christianity and a Judeo Christian God and Savior;
2. Lack of respect for life: His belief of abortion being a right as opposed to a birth control option was bad enough for me to not vote for him, but his mandate through his health payment plan that requires coverage of it regardless of your belief falls right over the edge;
3. Total disregard for the Second Amendment: A second amendment in our Bill of Rights and we are only at number two. Can anybody say ten for ten by the time he gets done? Don't believe it can't happen, because once he does away with the Second there is no stopping tyranny!
By the way, in the second question where BHO was first the questioner asked about the Secretary of Energy not being there to lower gas prices. BHO sidestepped the question, and he claimed he was producing more energy than ever. He also bragged about his mandate to double fuel economy. If all of this is so great, why are we paying more than twice for fuel today as opposed to election day 2008? Better yet, why didn't the moderator hold to her promise to force him to answer the questions directly?
Any one with a D after their names supports those things, and if you vote for any democrat YOU are supporting those things.
http://www.democrats.org/democratic-national-platform
Protecting A Woman's Right to Choose. The Democratic Party strongly and unequivocally supports Roe v. Wade and a woman's right to make decisions regarding her pregnancy, including a safe and legal abortion,
During the Obama administration, the Justice Department has initiated careful, thorough, and independent reviews of proposed voting changes, and it has prevented states from implementing voter identification laws that would be harmful to minority voters.
We believe that the right to own firearms is subject to reasonable regulation
We know that global climate change is one of the biggest threats of this generation
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The gloves are coming off--ours must as well.
http://www.examiner.com/article/in-debate-obama-abandons-under-the-radar-path-to-forcible-citizen-disamament
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is he nuts or did the NRA hack his teleprompter
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Dang I didn't know I could buy fully automatic and select fire MILITARY WEAPONS at gun shows![/size]
All this time I thought they were extremely regulated by the National Firearms Act of 1934.
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He also said he's been fighting prejudice since he was elected, even though his AG won't prosecute blacks and they all thought it was just fine if a few hundred mexicans got mowed down so they could manufacture some bogus statistics for their "under the radar" gun control conspiracy.
Racist-In-Chief.
I say, prove you're not a racist...vote for Romney.
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Romney's got this election hands down. :)
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Romney's got this election hands down. :)
Hold on to that hope and prayer, but please don't let down or forget to vote because of it. That is how we can get screwed ... again!
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Don't forget, unless he gets a Republican Senate and house we're still screwed.
Don't be stupid, don't vote for ANY dems.
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Not even Max Baucus? There has never been a stauncher friend to the 2A. Party means nothing. Look ant Snow or Rommney. They never blinked at gun control. Mitt isn't pro-2A, he's anti-making waves. Not too different than BO in that regard. I'll vote for the wind sock, but do I think he's got my six? Hell no!
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It's obvious you have a Poli Sci/ History PHD cuz you don't know sh!t about politics.
If you had sense enough to read the party platform you would know that no dem is a friend of gun owners.
Yeah, he's got your 6, but you better bring your own lube.
Not that any one that gullible deserves lube.
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It's obvious you have a Poli Sci/ History PHD cuz you don't know sh!t about politics.
If you had sense enough to read the party platform you would know that no dem is a friend of gun owners.
Yeah, he's got your 6, but you better bring your own lube.
Not that any one that gullible deserves lube.
He's the reason you can still buy military brass as opposed to having it destroyed. And if you look at the party not the candidate? I'm not the gullible one here. Party platforms are drafted by a bunch of old women who have nothing better to do with their time. The platforms mean nothing, and party solidarity only matters on the big (in political terms) issues. Gun control? People will vote based on their district, not the platform, because the platform can't vote in November.
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The party platform states the goals and objectives of the party, if you do not support those goals why would you stay in that party ?
Besides, the biggest issue in this election is not guns, "It's the economy stupid".
It was the democrats spending, and meddling that crashed the economy because they cling to failed Euro-socialist policies.
Unless a Republican President has a free hand he will not be able to undo their stupidity.
" the platform can't vote in November."
That statement right there shows you don't get it, the platform doesn't have to vote in Nov, it votes when campaign money is handed out.
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Max Baucus is not running this year. John Tester is up for reelection. Looks like he might lose to Dennis Rehberg or state house member. Tester has never polled ahead of Rehberg yet. ;D
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The party platform states the goals and objectives of the party, if you do not support those goals why would you stay in that party ?
Besides, the biggest issue in this election is not guns, "It's the economy stupid".
It was the democrats spending, and meddling that crashed the economy because they cling to failed Euro-socialist policies.
Unless a Republican President has a free hand he will not be able to undo their stupidity.
" the platform can't vote in November."
That statement right there shows you don't get it, the platform doesn't have to vote in Nov, it votes when campaign money is handed out.
Please. The campaign money is handed out in back room quid pro quo deals about backing various budget policies. Our GOP douche bag candidate for Senator is a butt monkey for the oil companies. His Dem opponent is into the farm Bureau and thus pro-amnesty. Its only a few groups like the NRA and the abortion folks (pro or con) that give millions based on ideology. The rest are in it for the money, and they expect a return on their investment.
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Max Baucus is not running this year. John Tester is up for reelection. Looks like he might lose to Dennis Rehberg or state house member. Tester has never polled ahead of Rehberg yet. ;D
Don't get sucked in by the polls regardless of which side you are on compared to them. Fight for what you believe and do it for the person you support.
Polls are a powerful tool in elections and campaigns. First they tell the candidate if they are touching the right spots in voters, and we never see most of those polls because they are the truly balanced and accurate ones. Their main purpose is to skew the numbers in a way to encourage or discourage participation by your own side or the opposition. They are there to reinforce the people that want to vote for a winner, to build confidence you are on the right side, and even to show you are on the losing side so it doesn't pay to vote or maybe switch sides so you can claim to be a winner.
Ignore the polls, learn all you can about the candidates, and vote your values.
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Looking at my latest edition of American Hunter, the NRA ratings for my local politicians include no recommendations for Democrats in MD. They all get an F! All of the Republicans get either an A, A- or an AQ (answered questionaire as pro-gun). I have been gerrymandered out of a staunch Republican District (6) and into a staunch Democrat District (8), which gives the edge for Democrats in both and reduces the total complement of Republicans from this state to one! No senators, maybe one representative in the Congress. Tom, I'm with you even though I don't have a prayer in hell. If Obama wins we are definitely screwed; if Romney wins we have hope. Appointment of retiring Supreme Court Justices is in the balance and the last bastion of the 2nd Amendment for all of us. Seeing how Justice Roberts got pussy-whipped on the Obamacare issue doesn't give me any confidence that he has the backbone to break a tie the right way. We need the next two justices to be pro 2nd! Folks, vote Republican or lose your ass.
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Please. The campaign money is handed out in back room quid pro quo deals about backing various budget policies....The rest are in it for the money, and they expect a return on their investment.
The first part of your post proves my point.
The second half of your post leaves unsaid that it is up to the voters to have brains enough to decide whether they want to vote for "return on investment" or hand out to non productive parasites.