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Member Section => Down Range Cafe => Topic started by: Paraguy on November 04, 2012, 03:15:27 PM
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Almost pulled the trigger on an AK-47 today but chickened out at the last second. $719 is a lot to spend on a gun I will likely never shoot. I like collecting firearms and think this might go up in value, potentially a lot after the election. Romney could make it into office and the value goes down and I take a hit.
Anybody think I am crazy for not buying or are the chances of this rifle going up in value substantially a pretty good bet?
BTW, for the same amount I could buy an upper for the AR-15 that I would use or get a 44 Mag that I would like and also use.
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Seems sorta high for an AK. I guess it depends on where it was made. They are the most plentiful gun in the world, so I don't see a major upside. Local gun shops around here have all you could want for $249 each.
I think I'd opt for something I would be likely to shoot. A .44mag in a lever carbine format might be just the ticket. I have one made by Rossi and I love it.
FWIW
Crusader Rabbit
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Time magazine had an article showing that the best investments over the past 20 years or so had been guns.
The 2 best performing stocks over the last 4 years have been Ruger and S&W, collector guns such as double rifles expecting to get $300.000 at auction are getting 2 or 3 times that amount .
Common fire arms are selling for more used now than they did new 4 years ago.
If Obama wins on Tuesday expect gun prices to be driven up 50%
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I have 3 cmmg lowers I bought 4 years ago... Kind of as a why not type deal. They were cheap. If obama wins, I will be selling 2.
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Why TAB?
I too purchased 4 AR lowers (neat thing is they are sequential ending in 40, 41, 42 and 43)
Put parts kits in two of them, and purchased 4 more kits for spares.... but never got around to putting uppers on any of them.
I did manage to purchase 2 full AK's one is a junker for $150 or so (not over 200) and my U.S. made RPG arms AK (all new all American parts) for $650
Best $$$$ I EVER spent on ANY of my guns. It is THE ONE gun I'll never give up.... it is just the one for me... sweet sweet shooter too.
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I don't have a use for them. ars don't intrest me. Neither do aks or sks. now m1, m1c m1a and several other "old school" semi autos do. ruger minis do as well, they just suck for accuracy.
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AKs are reliable rifles, and till the border gets closed to Wolf ammo, they're cheap to shoot, like cheaper than 9mm..
I have two and they're both accurate to an inch or two, consistently, (with Wolf), at 300 yards.. One is a plain Jane Saiga. I got that one for a few hundred, before the 09 price spike.. They're still nearly twice that. The other is an M+M M10 for $650 a couple of months ago. I like em..
(Never got done with the "upgrades" for the Saiga.. Iron sights still work fine..)
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If you're going to "collect" an AK-47, the one to get is the new Arsenal Milled Bulgarian Model. They come in at right around the 1K mark, but they represent about the finest AK-47 on the market today, and will never lose their value. These are even more desirable than the Chinese Norinco Models.
This is the first time in a decade they've imported them. Even if Romney wins, Hussein could sign a Executive Order banning their importation before he leaves office. If that happens I wouldn't want to live on the difference that Romney would revoke it once in office. Hussein's lame duck term will be like a stalled hurricane. No telling how much damage he'll do.
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The AKs in the shop I go to were made in the USA, not sure if that is a good thing or a bad thing. Should have paid more attention to the details, not that it would mean much to me, given my lack of knowledge of the platform. They had 4 models, one was a pistol, one was optics ready/one was not (but cheaper) and the other had a polymer stock.
I like the suggestion of a 44 lever action, packs a different punch than the 223 and could interchange ammo with the 44 pistol I hope to have some day.
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I'd avoid the pistol, it's pretty much just a gimmick unless you want to go through the SBR hassle.
I also would not bother with optics on an AK.
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I'd avoid the pistol, it's pretty much just a gimmick unless you want to go through the SBR hassle.
I also would not bother with optics on an AK.
If you get one that will take the side mount scope a red dot should work. It won't make it more accurate, but it should give faster target acquistion and help in the dark. Plus if you've got old eyes it can't hurt. One advantacge to the AK over the AR is that since the optic is off to the side you can transition instantly to the irons.
As far as buying one, I would. I just wouldn't spend much, if anything beyond six bills for one. They are what they are. Just make sure yours doesn't have sight cant issues and will handle single and double stack mags. Its a fun toy, good for SD and if you buy a five round mag its the same as a 30-30 for bambi.
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Make sure it takes DOUBLE stack mags, don't waste $ on single stack.
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I got one! It was the last CIA they had and it had a top rail and (2) 30 rd magazines and nice wood furniture on it. It was $740 which is high, but for a nicer one with the mags and top rail it is likely cheaper than the basic unit they had there if I had upgraded it myself.
Don't know much about AKs but am glad I have one now. Any feedback on how to feed and care for this new addition would be appreciated.
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Punch the bore once in a while.
AK's love Wolf and East Bloc surplus.
Don't expect MOA accuracy.
No head shots at 500, but chest shot's inside 150 as long as you can keep it fed.
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Was at the gun shop today. Big difference compared to yesterday. Quiet and somber but people buying AR and anything else they can get their hands on. The shop said one distributor already was raising prices. Bullcrap in my opinion. Obama will never be able to get guns stopped.
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Was at the gun shop today. Big difference compared to yesterday. Quiet and somber but people buying AR and anything else they can get their hands on. The shop said one distributor already was raising prices. Bullcrap in my opinion. Obama will never be able to get guns stopped.
Wrong .
Now that he has, as he told Medvedev, "more flexibility" all it takes is an executive order and imports disappear.
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So I have the new AK-47 and am keeping it as a collectible and will likely not shoot it for a while. Are there any steps I should take to preserve it or is NIB the way to keep it?
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Light coat of oil or Break Free on all the metal throw a desiccant pack in the box and it should be OK, check on it every 6 months or so.
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Going by Cabela's and Davidson's stock on hand, this is nothing like after the 2008 election. Davidsons has plenty of AK's and AR's, as does Cabela's. This time after the 2008 elections they were picked clean.
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I was at a gunstore/indoor range on Friday, in St. Louis. I've known the owner since 2006. It was my first time to his new store/range. He gave me the tour. He has several of these glass cases that have a carousel in them, so you can spin the guns around to look at them. He said this one glass case has been emptied then restocked 4 times since the election. So that's 60 AR's right there. He went on to say he has done $2 million in business in the 8 months he's been open at that location.
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Maybe they were better prepared this time..
(Buy Wolf ammo for it now..)
I still think this is a good deal (nowadays).
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=317611336
The one with the "Kicklite" stock really is much nicer to shoot, but a reliable, plenty combat accurate rifle, nonetheless.
Buds was talking back orders for this for $599 the last time I looked..
Here.. http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/products_id/411546098/M10-762+Semi-Auto+AK+Style+Rifl%1Fe+7.62x39