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Member Section => Down Range Cafe => Topic started by: mkm on November 10, 2012, 10:12:58 AM
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He DID NOT get elected. Whatever he would have done good or bad for firearms, healthcare, the economy, etc. does not matter any more. He didn't get elected; the people chose to keep what we've got. There is no reason to continue to post bad things about what Romney would've done; he's not going to get a chance to do them. Now is the time to figure out what we're going to do under the current president for the next 4 years not what we would've done under Romney or any other third party candidate.
I understand the often cited sentiment about picking the lesser of two evils. I also understand the sentiment of picking the better of the two and approaching it that way. I'm not here to choose the optimistic or pessimistic view of voting. I'm here to say the votes have already been cast and counted. Move along and look towards what is ahead; don't keep looking back at what didn't happen in the election. History is important to know, but it can't be changed. Only the future can be affected; work towards that and quit dwelling on what might have been.
Once again, our newly elected president for the next four years will be Obama. It will not be Romney, Ron Paul, or any other piece of crap politician or heralded savior. There is really no reason to continue posting about any other candidate; they are history. Work towards a better future with our current president in mind not some fantasy president that is not going to be there.
Thanks for reading my rant.
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Okay GARP, what now? Got any ideas, or do we just leave it to our native wits? Apologize for the sarcasm, but I haven't figured out what the next step should be. Whatever it is, we need to start now and not wait until Obama is done with us. Still looking for some positive moves to make short of armed rebellion. I am truly lost here in MD, as the Democrats own this state lock, stock and barrel. Where to begin?
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Okay GARP, what now? Got any ideas, or do we just leave it to our native wits? Apologize for the sarcasm, but I haven't figured out what the next step should be. Whatever it is, we need to start now and not wait until Obama is done with us. Still looking for some positive moves to make short of armed rebellion. I am truly lost here in MD, as the Democrats own this state lock, stock and barrel. Where to begin?
Logic would suggest that whatever you begin you do it somewhere else .
It may just be me but the intelligent thing seems to be to relocate to a more defensible area, some where where you have more support available.
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Logic would suggest that whatever you begin you do it somewhere else .
It may just be me but the intelligent thing seems to be to relocate to a more defensible area, some where where you have more support available.
Solid advice, Tom.
Louisiana has started a petition to peacefully leave the Union.
Texas has been and now would be a good choice.
I am embarrassed that my own state (Florida) succumbed to the BS of the left and our electoral votes were given to Odamna. Still, people I care about are here and until they are not, here is where I will be.
Other than that, follow Deepwater and head for Peru. Of course you will need to learn Spanish.
FWIW
Crusader
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crusader rabbit wrote:
Louisiana has started a petition to peacefully leave the Union.
Really? Do you have a link?
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Here ya go.
http://www.wnd.com/2012/11/louisiana-residents-petition-to-secede/
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Man I wish I lived back in Leesville La if that goes through.
Also wonder how the Free States Project will be conducting them selves up in New Hampshire now also.
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The sentiment is good, but I don't think the grievant asks permission to secede from those causing the grievance. When you do, you get the response the LA grievant got from the Obama administration...uh, you need 25,000 signatures on your petition within 30 days before your petition can be recognized and forwarded to the appropriate department for an official response. Oh, yeah, and those 25,000 petitioners need to supply their email addresses so that the government's formal response can be emailed to each of them. My take: And then, of course, your names and addresses will be checked against your state's voting rolls to make sure you are valid citizens, each will have to provide a valid photo ID and birth certificate and all of you will be listed on the no-fly list, etc., etc., ad nauseum. Secession is a serious business I think and will never be allowed by paper. A government that little recognizes our rights under the U.S. Constitution will not tolerate secession. I applaud their pluck, however. Unless more than 25 states engage in this, no one will take it seriously. However, many states have a provision that citizens can petition their states to have measures put on the ballot within their respective states. Then the people in those states vote on the measure. If enough states do that, then the Feds will have no choice but to take notice, and so will the world. But this cannot be limited to states in the old South. Charges of racism and slavery will abound. My ole Daddy used to say: Don't start vast projects with half-vast ideas. But the idea is intriguing.
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I've been trying to figure out how the free state project will work in New Hampshire.
I figured thge state was very redf, but when I look at the results, it's fairly blue and is actually trending bluer given the youth demographics.
http://www.cnn.com/election/2012/results/state/NH#president (http://www.cnn.com/election/2012/results/state/NH#president)
Might it make more sense to choose Idaho for the project?
http://www.cnn.com/election/2012/results/state/ID (http://www.cnn.com/election/2012/results/state/ID)
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The Free State Project is nothing but a bunch of pot smoking gay marriage advocates.
That's why I got out of it.
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He DID NOT get elected. Whatever he would have done good or bad for firearms, healthcare, the economy, etc. does not matter any more. He didn't get elected; the people chose to keep what we've got. There is no reason to continue to post bad things about what Romney would've done; he's not going to get a chance to do them. Now is the time to figure out what we're going to do under the current president for the next 4 years not what we would've done under Romney or any other third party candidate.
I understand the often cited sentiment about picking the lesser of two evils. I also understand the sentiment of picking the better of the two and approaching it that way. I'm not here to choose the optimistic or pessimistic view of voting. I'm here to say the votes have already been cast and counted. Move along and look towards what is ahead; don't keep looking back at what didn't happen in the election. History is important to know, but it can't be changed. Only the future can be affected; work towards that and quit dwelling on what might have been.
Once again, our newly elected president for the next four years will be Obama. It will not be Romney, Ron Paul, or any other piece of crap politician or heralded savior. There is really no reason to continue posting about any other candidate; they are history. Work towards a better future with our current president in mind not some fantasy president that is not going to be there.
Thanks for reading my rant.
We're complaining because we had to choke on it for the last number of months and keep our mouths shut, "for the greater good"..
Nominating Romney was a stupid idea and most of us are just now fresh out of lipstick to put on that pig..
That's why..
I don't have time, and I'm not quite awake enough to vent my spleen right on all this now.
That said..
The first things we need to be about the business of doing is replacing Boehner and McConnell with DeMint, and (I would have said West, but I think he lost. I don't know yet).. After making damn sure that everybody knows what those needed to succeed at anything positive will and won't go along with, we need to undo that business that the Romney Campaign did at/with the Convention, disallowing State GOPs from picking delegates of their own choosing, without the blessing of the Campaign at the head of the ticket...
Good start?
Who do we start rattling the cage for, for Speaker?
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I pity any one naive enough to believe that the answers to America's current problems lies with in the "system".
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Santahog, I'd go for Utah Congressman Jason Chaffetz for Speaker of the House. Take a look at his election history. He ran on conservative principles, literally, and beat Republican establishment favorites all the way. I like his style in front of the camera. He is insightful, forthright and can be meaner than a junkyard dog...and he doesn't cry like Boehner or Obama.
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........ He is insightful, forthright and can be meaner than a junkyard dog...and he doesn't cry like Boehner or Obama.
I like that. The Republicans lack leadership. A bunch of RINO mama's boys. The populace can smell a follower.....so when the RINO's run a Romney can you ever expect to win? In the arena he was in for Governor he may have stood out, but in the national areana he was the candidate least likely to offend....NOT A LEADER.
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You people that condemn the GOP for running moderate candidates are stupid.
You think some one like Barry Goldwater or Allen West could get elected ?
If you do you're on crack.
You think Ted Nugent would be a good candidate ?
Go back on this forum and see what some of the other members have to say about him.
TAB comes to mind, but he was far from the only one .
Then you've got the people who were to stupid to figure out that the choice was Obama or not Obama .
Any one who thinks "the system" still works is an idiot.
The last election did not do anything except prove that the Republic has been dead long enough for the communists to do as they please.
The question is no longer how do we win in the next election, it is how do we survive .
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Just went through the final vote tally's and regardless if Willard would have gotten every single vote that a libertarian or greenie cast for their guy or gal, it would not have changed a single swing state outcome.
Willard got spanked and it's over. The rules have changed, the systems rigged and we're outnumbered by the inept, ignorant, lazy, shiftless, bigoted, leftist shakers and takers.
I give up...I'm moving on with my life in as much as it's possible! If y'all start a revolution I'll be looking after my own as I'm no longer willing to die for a country of fools!
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I like that. The Republicans lack leadership. A bunch of RINO mama's boys. The populace can smell a follower.....so when the RINO's run a Romney can you ever expect to win? In the arena he was in for Governor he may have stood out, but in the national areana he was the candidate least likely to offend....NOT A LEADER.
And his opponent is what, more qualified?
This was about turnout point blank and period. BHO had ~10 million fewer votes this time around but Romney had ~3 million fewer votes than McCain, MCCAIN-the original "reach across the isle and cave" guy that no one on the Right wanted.
The real question is why. Media bias? Apathy? Mormon? Moderate?
My opinion is the later, conservatives want a conservative candidate but the Moderates that run the Republican Party won't have it. So its time to change out the leadership starting with Boehner and McConnel then Priebus the RNC Chairman. We, conservatives, have to take back the party before the country is too far gone, which may be a mute point.
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And his opponent is what, more qualified?
This was about turnout point blank and period. BHO had ~10 million fewer votes this time around but Romney had ~3 million fewer votes than McCain, MCCAIN-the original "reach across the isle and cave" guy that no one on the Right wanted.
The real question is why. Media bias? Apathy? Mormon? Moderate?
My opinion is the later, conservatives want a conservative candidate but the Moderates that run the Republican Party won't have it. So its time to change out the leadership starting with Boehner and McConnel then Priebus the RNC Chairman. We, conservatives, have to take back the party before the country is too far gone, which may be a mute point.
Your own numbers show it wasn't about turn out.
It's about a nation of parasites who are to fu*king dumb to govern themselves responsibly.
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I'd lay odds on the fact that a true conservative will never be elected to the highest office again! The games changed and we're no longer on a level playing field.
Look at the last so called conservatives to win. GHW Bush and GW Bush! Both relative RINO's and while both likable, decent fellows, they're not going to win against this biased climate. There ain't no Ronnie Reagans out there that I can see.
We're two heartbeats away from a liberal Supreme Court. After that, we might as well call it a day!
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You people that condemn the GOP for running moderate candidates are stupid.
You think some one like Barry Goldwater or Allen West could get elected ?
If you do you're on crack.
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I appreciate the frustration, but I recall you and I getting a little bit of a mutual smile over the prospects of one Newt Gingrich winning the nomination. He isn't a small government conservative.
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Your own numbers show it wasn't about turn out.
It's about a nation of parasites who are to fu*king dumb to govern themselves responsibly.
So 13 million voters fewer casting ballots this time around doesn't reflect an problem with turn out? ???
Color me confused.
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So 13 million voters fewer casting ballots this time around doesn't reflect an problem with turn out? ???
Color me confused.
Voting has never been a strong suite of this country. Over the past 5-10 elections we are lucky to see 25% of the populace who can vote to the polls.
My 2cents: the electoral system was meant to balance the race but has ended up polarizing it. In Maryland why would a republican voting individual go to the polls when this state is deep blue? Many states are like this where the conservative voters don't bother to vote in national elections because they feel its a waste of time.
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I think every election cycle we go through this with the electoral college crap. Without them New York, Philadelphia, Boston and Los Angeles would decide the president and every other nationally elected official. With them smaller states and cities have a chance at influencing the election.
As far as Romney bashing. Some people never liked the man, they were told to hold their nose and pull the lever. Absent of doing so those very same people are now ridiculed and laden with the blame for why Obama got elected. I can see why their anger can bubble over. Hearing Ron Paul get called a crazy out house rat is just as infuriating. Two men of very very different principles getting bashed, its as American as taxes!
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So 13 million voters fewer casting ballots this time around doesn't reflect an problem with turn out? ???
Color me confused.
Based on the numbers you posted, 3M Rep and 10 M Dems would not have changed the out come, it just shows that stupid parasites out number real Americans by more than the election results indicate.
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Welcome, Respen33, fellow Marylander. I'm not alone! Don't get discouraged because we are outnumbered in this state. But I must say I like the odds better: 4 million to 2, rather than 4 million to 1! If we get one more to join us then we will have a movement; nine more will gives a squad. Tom, does that number sound right to you...or am I dating myself?
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Welcome, Respen33, fellow Marylander. I'm not alone! Don't get discouraged because we are outnumbered in this state. But I must say I like the odds better: 4 million to 2, rather than 4 million to 1! If we get one more to join us then we will have a movement; nine more will gives a squad. Tom, does that number sound right to you...or am I dating myself?
You are definitely dating yourself, now get over there on the "Group W" bench with the mother stabbers and Father rapers. ;D
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You are definitely dating yourself, now get over there on the "Group W" bench with the mother stabbers and Father rapers. ;D
Don't worry Tom I can date him better. I know him(jrlobo) quite well.
One would say like family.
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Don't worry Tom I can date him better. I know him(jrlobo) quite well.
One would say like family.
Has he rehabilitated himself ?
;D
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Reborn through the eyes of pyrodex and a granddaughter I would say.
Madelyn says Hi, Dad. ;-)
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