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Member Section => Politics & RKBA => Topic started by: PegLeg45 on November 21, 2012, 04:07:00 PM
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This article brings up even more questions on implementation of regulation if enacted at all.
Obama administration rumored to be considering semiautomatic ban by decree
Prominent gun rights advocate John Snyder warns that the Obama administration, well aware of the unlikelihood of congressional complicity in Obama's agenda of banning so-called "assault weapons" and "high capacity" magazines, might simply bypass Congress in pursuit of that sick, criminal agenda.
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An anti-gun owner initiative considered in Washington could lead to massive civil disobedience and a severe domestic crisis,” gun law expert John M. Snyder said today.
“According to confidential information,” he continued, “forces linked with the administration suggest the government classify semiautomatic firearms and multiple capacity ammunition feeding devices as Title 2 National Firearms Act items under the Gun Control Act of 1968.
“Under this scenario, semiautomatics and high capacity magazines could be acquired only with great difficulty and at great expense by America’s estimated 100 million law-abiding firearms owners.”
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If the Second Amendment did not exist, and there were thus no Constitutional protection of the fundamental human right of the individual to keep and bear arms, this would still be blatantly unconstitutional. If there were no Tenth Amendment, and thus no Constitutional prohibition against federal regulation of that which the Constitution does not explicitly empower the federal government to regulate, this would still be blatantly unconstitutional. The Constitution's mandated separation of powers is by itself enough to deny this scheme any pretense of legitimacy.
St. Louis Gun Rights Examiner is in no place to evaluate the quality of Mr. Snyder's confidential sources, and admittedly, this rumor brings with it more questions than answers. What, for example, would be done about all the semiautomatics (and "high capacity" magazines) already in circulation (with the vast majority, thankfully, not registered or traceable)? How would the BATFE, already well beyond its competence in maintaining an accurate registry of machine guns, ever manage the vastly larger job of registering and monitoring the tens of millions of newly restricted guns and magazines?
Still, though, Obama's hostility to an armed American citizenry is well documented, as is his willingness to bypass Congress when that darned Constitution and its inconvenient separation of powers get in the way.
What he needs to realize is that this move, if he makes it, would start a war. It is not a war he would win.
http://www.examiner.com/article/obama-administration-rumored-to-be-considering-semiautomatic-ban-by-decree
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I dislike confidential sources. Very hard to verify information, shows disrespect for the side you are supposed to be working for (a BHO insider breaking the rules without the balls to admit it), and fuels the other side's argument that we are all uninformed paranoid idiots - Do we want to go down the "birther" road again?
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I dislike confidential sources. Very hard to verify information, shows disrespect for the side you are supposed to be working for (a BHO insider breaking the rules without the balls to admit it), and fuels the other side's argument that we are all uninformed paranoid idiots - Do we want to go down the "birther" road again?
I started not to post, and that is why I said This article brings up even more questions on implementation of regulation if enacted at all.
....... This was more of a what-if thing....... as in if they did ban them, and make it retroactive, how would they enforce it without starting an all-out war? Hose to house confiscation would be problematic due to time frame and man power.
A lot of folks are speculatin' about a lot o' things these days.......
Link with video:
http://www.ammoland.com/2012/11/20/obama-may-skirt-congress-to-ban-semiautomatics/#ixzz2CtIscQCy
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If they go house to house they won't have much fun with me, I sold my rifles and shotguns at gun shows and lost the my pistols when I was in a boat over a very deep lake while we were target shooting. Shame.....I will miss them dearly;-) "Out of my cold dead hands" sounds much braver, but I am sticking with my story above.
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If they go house to house they won't have much fun with me, I sold my rifles and shotguns at gun shows and lost the my pistols when I was in a boat over a very deep lake while we were target shooting. Shame.....I will miss them dearly;-) "Out of my cold dead hands" sounds much braver, but I am sticking with my story above.
"Sorry officer, all mine were stolen.... by a young guy wearing a hoodie and an 'I Love Obama' baseball cap." :o
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"Sorry officer, all mine were stolen.... by a young guy wearing a hoodie and an 'I Love Obama' baseball cap." :o
We REALLY need a "Like" button on DRTV, that was brilliant Peg!!! Gon'na be laughing about that for a while!
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The second this happens there will be a far outcry beyond us gun owners. "By decree" is fanatic speak got Executive Order. His window to do this is extremely limited and he would need to pick a bigger issue to piggy back off so it could be masked.
The congress, whether for it against the act, will not tolerate such legislation being passed without their hands all over it.
Politicians are greedy about things like that...
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The second this happens there will be a far outcry beyond us gun owners. "By decree" is fanatic speak got Executive Order. His window to do this is extremely limited and he would need to pick a bigger issue to piggy back off so it could be masked.
The congress, whether for it against the act, will not tolerate such legislation being passed without their hands all over it.
Politicians are greedy about things like that...
Crap, 1/2 to 3/4 of US gun owners would go ahead and turn them in, cuz it's the law.
You're expecting an awful lot out of a bunch of sheep who can be controlled with a set of lights.
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He won Virginia, Florida, Ohio and Michigan.What are the odds of another Dem doing that EVER if he pulled this crap? It wouldn't be us he'd have to worry about, it would be the DNC.
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He won Virginia, Florida, Ohio and Michigan.What are the odds of another Dem doing that EVER if he pulled this crap? It wouldn't be us he'd have to worry about, it would be the DNC.
Just shows how ill informed you are.
It's one of the planks of the DNC platform which I have posted at least twice, with links.
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Just shows how ill informed you are.
It's one of the planks of the DNC platform which I have posted at least twice, with links.
And since when did you believe a Dem meant a word they said? That's there for part of the base. They won't trade it for a Senate seat anymore than the GOP is actually going to get serious about gays or abortion if it costs them power.
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He won Virginia, Florida, Ohio and Michigan.What are the odds of another Dem doing that EVER if he pulled this crap? It wouldn't be us he'd have to worry about, it would be the DNC.
Nothing would change. He won those states because of the migration of people from places like MD, DC, CA, IL, and MA to where the work is and the housing affordable. Northern VA used to be DoD contractors and tech industry, its now just feeder plots to DC. The "inner city" of DC is pushing further and further out in VA and MD. The same is happening in every other metroplex. All those "transplants" tend to vote DNC. Welcome to the new reality of elections, reinvent and change or stand there asking "Why'd we loose?" and never figure it out.
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Just to warn everyone that if the day ever comes when the Feds go door to door they already use handheld imaging equipment. Customs use them everyday to check imports for banned items hidden inside approved ones. If you hide your newly prohibited property find a way to mask it or move it outside of any search area. I thought I had a great hiding place in a hollow fireplace mantle but was told a search would include walls, ceilings, door frames and just about every inch of property including my mantle.
I believe they will never come to you, they will just prosecute the living hell out of you if they catch you with a prohibited item.
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The hispanics don't care about gun bans. Especially if they get fast track citizenship, food stamps, and free cell phones. That's why they voted for him. They put him over the top. Hussein is still the most dangerous anti gun President EVER!