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Member Section => Tactical Rifle & Carbine => Topic started by: twyacht on December 24, 2012, 08:26:46 AM
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Have always heard very good things about the K31 Schmidt-Rubin in 7.5x55. The trigger, accuracy, well built design of the straight bolt, and overall craftsmanship.
It's all true. Picked this up amongst the AR frenzy down here, an all matching numbered consignment original walnut stock lovely was being ignored by all the black rifle folks. As I waited my turn and utilized my C&R to acquire it,...some of the AR guys paused and said:
"Is that what I think it is?" "Damn, Nice Rifle." ::)
(http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm182/twyacht/SummerandK31and686015_zps652f8ecc.jpg)
(http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm182/twyacht/SummerandK31and686012_zps917a31c0.jpg)
(http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm182/twyacht/SummerandK31and686010_zps38146171.jpg)
(http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm182/twyacht/SummerandK31and686011_zps58f5ec62.jpg)
Hickok45 has a great vid with one.
Any and all info, tips, ammo donations, and tweaks are very much wanted.
Range report as soon as my ammo gets here. ;D
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That's a really nice rifle T.W.! Let me know how it runs. I've seen several for sale at Classic Arms. Some have the red bolt handle. I'm not sure if that's a different model.
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Another very cool buy. Christmas is coming early and often at your house.
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Thanks billt, I certainly will. After doing some research I also found that hidden under the buttstock was a tag assigning the rifle to a particular Swiss family and adds provenance to the rifle.
Mine has this one.
(http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm182/twyacht/K31tag_zpsef37d7ae.jpg)
Perhaps someone knows Swiss.
It reads
Nilod Roger 1933
Gs. fus. mout 1/7
Vhe. Salluz 47
Lausanne
Best my eyes can do, on the back is the serial number of the rifle.
I think I got a real good one, as the bore is as bright as a mirror, and the bolt is really slick.
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First off, I think the red and white bolt handles are just different materials, not different models.
When you chamber a round slam the bolt forward and then give it a rap to be sure it's seated !
The straight pull action got a bad reputation during WWI when stories circulated about Canadian Ross rifles that were fired with out the bolt fully locked and driving the bolt through the shooters head .
In his book "A Rifleman went to war" H.W.McBride, who used the Ross extensively in France, claims that was not the case, it was in fact dirt jamming the action shut that led to the replacement of the Ross .
I have been told, but have not confirmed, that the Schmidt Rubin will not fire if the bolt is not fully locked.
I myself would rather be safe than sorry so the extra whack on the bolt handle.
All that being said, the K- 31 is probably the most accurate general issue rifle ever produced, with fairly mild recoil and results that just make it a joy to shoot.
I would buy one before I would even consider another Mauser.
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Ok TW, now you're just pissin' me off. Merry Christmas!
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Thanks for the info TomB. I noticed cycling the action and in the Hickok vid, he mentioned the same. Do not want to experiment with "it won't fire with the bolt slightly closed concept." It will get an extra rap home when I shoot it.
Other than that, that's about my only Christmas gifts other than my son being with me and having to feed his neverending 17 year old appetite.
But I do get to exploit a healthy back and violate child labor laws while he's here. ;)
Sorry jay. If you want to come down to FL, we can get some range time in,...in shorts and a T-Shirt if you like. It's about 76 and a little breezy today. :-X
Sorry again..... ::)
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Woohoo! Some years Santa's allright!
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Thanks billt, I certainly will. After doing some research I also found that hidden under the buttstock was a tag assigning the rifle to a particular Swiss family and adds provenance to the rifle.
Mine has this one.
(http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm182/twyacht/K31tag_zpsef37d7ae.jpg)
Perhaps someone knows Swiss.
It reads
Nilod Roger 1933
Gs. fus. mout 1/7
Vhe. Salluz 47
Lausanne
Best my eyes can do, on the back is the serial number of the rifle.
I think I got a real good one, as the bore is as bright as a mirror, and the bolt is really slick.
Not sure, but is that one of the German dialects. i thought the swiss spoke German?
Nice TW
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Not sure, but is that one of the German dialects. i thought the swiss spoke German?
Nice TW
German and French, in that part of Switzerland, Lausanne, it may be French, since it's right on the border.
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Just received 100 rds. of Swiss milsurp.
Anzahl 7.5 Gewehrpatrone GP-11
591-1100
174gr. BTFMJ
Highly regarded as the "really great" ammo for the K-31.
(http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm182/twyacht/a75swiss1_zps1c667665.jpg)
Generic pic but mine is the same.
Seems this Marine took a shine and a victory with one.
(http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm182/twyacht/Burns_s_zps9b6167fa.jpg)
CWO2 Peter Burns, USMC, poses with the M1911 Swiss rifle that he fired in winning the Western Games Vintage Military Rifle Match. Burns is the Team Captain of the USMC Rifle Team. Peter Burns in the Vintage Military Rifle Match with a 276-6X.
Warrant Officer Burns, who is the OIC of the Marine Corps Rifle Team, fired a M1911 Swiss straight pull rifle with 7.5mm Swiss arsenal ammunition. ;)
http://www.odcmp.org/1008/default.asp?page=WGAMES08
Heading to the range tomorrow. Hopefully can upload a short video with my "smart phone" but "dumb operator" thingy... ;)
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Are those nickel plated rounds? By the way thats a great rifle.
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Are those nickel plated rounds? By the way thats a great rifle.
I think they are just really clean and shiny brass case, copper jacket, since they seem to be Swiss surplus.
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Are those nickel plated rounds? By the way thats a great rifle.
The GP-11 bullet, is actually a Copper Nickel alloy, at 174gr. Jacketed Spire Point Boat Tailed.
2560-2640fps. ;D Max Chamber Pressure 45,500 psi. Pretty hot damn rd. IMHO...
http://www.swissrifles.com/ammo/index.html#7.5
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Well, TW, that rifle brings back memories! My first centerfire rifle was the Schmidt-Rubin 7.5 that I bought back in 1958 in California. I thought it would make a good deer rifle. Never had any problems firing it with Swiss surplus ammo. It wasn't in any near as good a shape as yours appears to be. But as a 135lb strapping lad, I found it tiring to lug up and down the San Bernardino and Mendocino mountains all the time. After a year, I got my Marlin 336C in 30/30 and left the Schmidt-Rubin to my Dad's care. He was in the USAF and got rid of it to make weight for transfer. Parents are like that! Lost all my baseball cards the same way, but that's another whiner for another time.
Hope you have fun with it.
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Jrlobo, I can certainly relate. My Father was a relentless collector of baseball cards back in the late 40's & 50's, inherited cards from his Father that went back to the 20's.
Left them all in a couple of shoeboxes when he left home for college. His Mother (my Grandmother) got on a Spring cleaning kick and threw them all away. :'(
Norma still makes about the best ammo for it. Hunting or otherwise, ( My Mauser's can attest), they make top shelf ammo, but pushing $2.00 per rd. it better be putting meat on the table. ::)
Thank you.
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Keep an eye on Shotgun News, and the distributors like Classic Arms or J&G Sales, grab up the surplus ammo , it's as good as you will get commercially, maybe better considering how anal the Swiss were about competitive shooting and accuracy.
(Not that that is a bad thing )