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Member Section => Down Range Cafe => Topic started by: blackwolfe on January 12, 2013, 02:43:34 AM
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Stopped at a Walmart out of town that I happened to be passing by Friday afternoon to check out the ammo supply. They had some but no .22, no 9 mm, 1 box .45, some .38, some .40. No .223 or .308.
There was a good ole boy there with is young daughter and son looking for some .22
The sales clerk said they did not have any and would not be getting anymore ammo in until the new laws are passed. She said they were told that by their manager that day. She said that Obama has ordered Walmart not to ship any more ammo from their warehouse to the stores and that the wholesalers and distributors have been ordered not to ship ammo to Walmart.
I don't know if this is:
1. True
2. Partially true
3. A bad rumor
4. Garbled communication through the chain at Walmart
5. Maybe a new Walmart policy to suspend or stop ammo sales.
6. Some other FUBAR
Walmart along with others did meet with Biden Thursday I think. I plan to check at my local Walmart to see if I can find out anything more. Has anyone here heard anything similar at their Walmart? It would be great the members here could investigate their local Walmart to see if we can find out more on this.
By the way the good ole boy's young daughter's remark was "Obama stinks". All present agreed.
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I don't know about this but I will check my local store.
Either way, the president has no right under the Constitution to verbally or otherwise, demand anything of them! Not saying it hasn't happened but he's not playing by the book if it has!
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If Walmart is seem as openly supporting a progressive agenda they will lose the majority of their customers.
At least for a couple of day until they forget about it.
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The only spine, backbone, or moral compass that Sam Walton's family has is to the almighty dollar >:( Unlike Sam, like what he did or not, they do not care about the big picture. It is all about capitalizing on today. They dumped guns, they brought guns back, now we are waiting to see if they are doing ammunition or it is just a hoax. Either way, PR move or gossip hoax, neither would surprise me in this world.
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I tried to call corporate but was put on hold so I emailed them. Response as follows:
Hi Craig,
Thank you for contacting Walmart.com regarding the sale of firearms.
At Walmart, we remain dedicated to the safe and responsible sale of firearms in areas of the country where they are sold. Part of our commitment to gun safety is our involvement in the 'Mayors Against Illegal Guns' coalition. We do not sell guns online and we have made no change to the assortment of guns we sell in our stores. Again, thank you for your inquiry and we look forward to serving you in the future.
Craig, if we have not fully answered your question or you have additional questions, please reply to this email.
Sincerely,
Walmart Customer Care
Original Message Follows
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01/10/2013 04:51 PM from you:
I'm contacting you in regards to any policy change about carrying ammo and firearms. While I expect you to follow the law I hope you refuse to be pressured to remove it from available products. Being able to pick up all my needs whether it's groceries or ammunition for a hunt is the reason I frequent Wal-Mart.
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Just got back from Wally World.
They had at least a few boxes of common calibers of handgun ammo and a boat load of rifle and shot shells. No clerk around to ask about the re-stocking issue. Prices have eeked up a bit too...
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Our local WallyWorld has always been slow to restock ammo anyway. When they finished remodelling to a "SuperWalmart" the manager told the staff not to reorder any ammo, and they have been really slow getting any since. The shelves were bare except a couple boxes of 22 and 12ga the other day.
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I haven't set foot in a WalMart in years but I'm thinking of going just to check out the ammo situation. I really don't have anything to compare it with so maybe I won't bother.
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I have gotten to be friends with my local Walmart folk in the sporting goods department some of them for 20 years.
They are good people and kept me posted through on ammo availability through the 2009 Obama induced shortage.
After the run on AR15's in December I heard a rumor they (Walmart) were either getting out of guns again or even ammunition.
They assured me that they were expanding their selection and the ATFE were coming for training in January, 2013.
We will see what happens.
P.S. The had Bushmaster's in stock before Sandy Hook but they highly recommended the Windham AR15 for about $200 less.
Richard Dyke, the founder of Bushmaster sold out a few years ago to Freedom Group.
His anti-compete agreement ended last year and he is now the proprietor of
Windham Weaponry, Windham, Maine. http://www.windhamweaponry.com/ (http://www.windhamweaponry.com/)
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I was at my local walmart today, and they had some ammo. No quality 9mm or 40, no 7.62x36, no 7.62x54, no .223/5.56. Basically is was 22 and hunter rifle loads and some crap-ass federal jhp cheap stuff. Did not talk to anyone and don't know if this is true or BS.
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Was able to stop by my usual Walmart today. I've gotten to know a couple of the clerks there. They have told me in the past the approximate time the trucks come in and about what time they get the stuff on the shelf. My Walmart does not usually have a very big selection or very much in stock in good times. I talked to the clerk about what I heard at the other Walmart about no further stocking. The clerk had not heard any thing in that regards. The clerk said that other customers had asked about the same issue. Seems that the other customers had heard it several days before from the same other Walmart where I heard it. The clerk speculated that the story at the other Walmart might only be someone's attempt to cut down on the number of phone calls and customer inquiries which have been overwhelming.
By the way my Walmart got some 9 mm and 7.62 x 39 in last night. One person bought it all immediately. They did not get any in today. :'( No truck tomorrow. Maybe Monday.
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Posted on FB...... do not have a link, but it does not look photo-shopped........ particularly based on the quality of the sign itself.
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What does "hard blocked" mean in that Walmart sign?
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Sounds like the gal might have been on to something in the OP. :o
The sales clerk said they did not have any and would not be getting anymore ammo in until the new laws are passed. She said they were told that by there manager that day. She said that Obama has ordered Walmart not to ship any more ammo from their warehouse to the stores and that the wholesalers and distributors have been ordered not to ship ammo to Walmart.
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I do not know.
I'm thinking it may be a stocking term related to something like leaving it on a palette. A lady I know who works there says their goods are stocked in the storage area in "blocks"......
*As a side note:
I do not know if the sign is legitimate, and hesitated before posting it without a credible link. I was just basing the posting on the appearance of the picture. I am trying to find source materials other than FB. Folks are already arguing about whether it is real or not, so take it with a grain of salt, FWIW.
**EDIT**
Found a link at WND (four hours old) that refutes the rumor of Wal-Mart's stoppage of ammo sales.
I apologize for any confusion.
http://www.wnd.com/2013/01/walmart-responds-to-suspended-ammo-story/#G7XJcWp6WIXA3YVx.99
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It's easy to see how these things get started. When Walmart sales clerks tell their customers the "no more ammo story" that I was told in the first post. I was not the only person that was told that. I was told that line at an out of town Walmart that is about 25-30 miles away from my local Walmart.
A day or two later I was able to get to my local Walmart. I was able to purchase some ammo, though there was little in stock. They had gotten in just a little the night before. I asked the clerk about the "no more ammo" story I heard at the out of town Walmart. The local clerk stated that they had not been told that at their store, but they had heard it from other customers. The other customers had also been told that by the same out of town Walmart where I heard it.
To try to get to the truth of the story I emailed Walmart through Walmart.com customer service which was probably the incorrect method to try to communicate my concern or questions. They way in which I did it was one in which you need to select a specific store in regard to your questions and I inadvertently clicked on a third Walmart store that is also out of town.
The next day I received a call from the third store in regards to my concerns, and that clerk also said they were unaware of any "no more ammo" company policies.
Earlier Monday I saw the "news" story about "no more ammo" so I tried calling corporate Walmart about the matter to either find out if it was true and express my displeasure or to alert them to the "no more ammo" story so they could respond. I was transferred several times and was initially was refereed to this press release:
http://news.walmart.com/news-archive/2013/01/09/walmart-statement-on-white-house-meeting-to-discuss-firearms
Walmart Statement on White House Meeting to Discuss Firearms
Jan. 9, 2013 - "Walmart, like the rest of the country, has been engaged in a national dialogue about the responsible sale and regulation of firearms.
"We have had ongoing conversations with the Administration, Congress, Mayor Bloomberg’s office, sportsmen groups, suppliers and others to listen and share our thoughts and experiences.
"Over the years we have been very purposeful about striking the right balance between serving hunters and sportsmen and ensuring that we sell firearms responsibly. In fact, we became a charter member of Mayor Bloomberg’s coalition against illegal guns and adopted the 10-point code established by the Responsible Firearms Retailer Partnership that goes beyond what the law requires.
"Knowing our senior leaders could not be in Washington this week, we spoke in advance with the Vice President’s office to share our perspective. We underestimated the expectation to attend the meeting on Thursday in person, so we are sending an appropriate representative to participate.
"We take this issue very seriously and are committed to staying engaged in this discussion as the Administration and Congress work toward a consensus on the right path forward."
-- David Tovar, Vice President, Corporate Communications
When I told them that PR really didn't address the situation, I was transferred again and repeated the story again. Really didn't get an answer at that time. I was told they would call me back, but have not heard from them yet. I hope that they do get back to me. Seems to me that Walmart could or should put a statement similar to the World News Daily story that Peg linked on their News & Views section of their web sight.
http://news.walmart.com/
World News Daily story:
http://www.wnd.com/2013/01/walmart-responds-to-suspended-ammo-story/#G7XJcWp6WIXA3YVx.99
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I can see a store mgr making a decision blaming corporate so he doesn't take the heat, and corporate saying we haven't changed or made any policy changes.
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Our local WallyWorld has always been slow to restock ammo anyway.
Same here. You have to "hit them" at the right time. If you don't the 9 MM will be gone in just a few hours. The Sporting Goods Manager told me what happens is as soon as they restock, people who are buying right away get on their cell phones and start calling their buddies. That brings in a stampede within an hour or so. Especially on weekends. Same deal with Cabela's. They have zero .223 and .308. I've seen people at both places on their phones spreading the word when they get any in stock.
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I can see a store mgr making a decision blaming corporate so he doesn't take the heat, and corporate saying we haven't changed or made any policy changes.
Which is where I see the above sign originating from..... a local manager's bad interpretation of company breakroom hearsay.
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On another forum they were talking about how Wally World had representatives at Biden's table for these anti gun talks. Word is they made a deal to stop selling for a break on Obamacare. They probably got an exemption, knowing Wallmart.
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The way I herd it Walmart refused to show up at Bidens witch hunt. I heard it on Fox by the way. Whether it's true or not I do not know. :-\
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At first Walmart was not going to send a representative to the meeting, but the administration chided them into sending a rep.
I'm beginning to wonder if Walmart told the administration one thing and and is then trying to dupe the public with a different story.
Does Walmart go to SHOT? Maybe somebody at SHOT can pin them down or get some answers from some of their ammo suppliers at SHOT.
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Wally World wants a chunk of the Obamacare legislation. The $$$$ signs far and away have the potential to offset selling firearms or ammo.