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Member Section => Politics & RKBA => Topic started by: PegLeg45 on January 13, 2013, 11:57:23 AM
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Saw this the other day and forgot to post, it may be on here but if it is I missed it.
Looks like the dead horse is still wiggling a bit?
Not much in the news either.
http://www.examiner.com/article/supreme-court-to-hear-case-on-obama-s-alleged-forged-documents
Supreme Court to hear case on Obama's alleged forged documents
On Wednesday, Chief Justice John Roberts of the Supreme Court scheduled a birther case brought on by Orly Taitz which calls into question Barack Hussein Obama's eligibility to be president of the United States. Dr. Taitz, a lawyer from Santa Margarita, Calif., also made the announcement on her website on Jan. 9.
As of this writing, major news networks such as ABC, Fox News, CBS, and NBC have yet to report on the high court's decision to review Barack Hussein Obama's eligibility to hold political office in the United States or any of its territories. The case is identified as Edward Noonan, et al., v. Deborah Bowen, California Secretary of State.
On Feb. 15, all nine justices will gather in conference to review whether Obama used forged government documents and fake identification in order to get elected as commander-in-chief. Edward Noonan, et al., contend that if Obama had been ineligible to run in 2008, other Democratic candidates should have replaced him on the presidential ballot. Additionally, electoral votes from states such as California that went towards Obama should have been deemed null and void.
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More at link above
Website of one of the attorneys:
http://www.orlytaitzesq.com/?p=375765
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The consequences are mind-boggling, aren't they?
If SCOTUS rules that Obama's 'credentials' are nothing more than forged documents then our Nation will face a chaos and constitutional crisis the likes of which the world has never seen. What would this mean for the laws, executive orders, military actions, diplomatic excursions, bureaucratic appointments, and other presidential functions that have occurred over the last four years?
It takes my breath away to think of what that might mean.
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To make evident all the duplicitous acts by the democrats, I'd relish the chaos!
Ain't gonna happen though...
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It means Biden will be President.
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It means Biden will be President.
I could live with that for a few years! Who really takes that asshat seriously anymore?
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Considering the threats about going around Congress on Gun Control and spending any one with any sense knows we already have a Constitutional crises.
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And I don't think Biden would become Pres. under the usual rules.
He would not be replacing a duly elected president and the ticket upon which he was voted in to the office of VP is just as invalid.
Not knowing any of the rules or laws governing this situation, I'd see a chance of Mitt taking office as the highest vote getter of the "Runner Up" tickets.
I guess it might go down to the Speaker....since he is the first legally elected person in the chain.
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If SCOTUS determines that documents substantiating Obama's elligibility to be president were forged, that leaves the country with an interesting dilemma. That could be a basis for claiming that the 2008 election is null and void, as is the 2012 election. Does that mean that Biden would necessarily be named president? Not sure, as the Electoral College results may be nullified and the election would be determined in the Congress leading to: a Republican for president and a Democrat for vice-president. Ain't gonna happen. SCOTUS recognizes this country has troubles enough and won't throw it into complete and utter chaos.
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It's pretty clearly laid out in the 25th amendment.
Biden would not be disqualified as he is a legal citizen, any action would apply only to Obama .
http://www.usconstitution.net/xconst_Am25.html
Amendment 25 - Presidential Disability and Succession
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1. In case of the removal of the President from office or of his death or resignation, the Vice President shall become President.
2. Whenever there is a vacancy in the office of the Vice President, the President shall nominate a Vice President who shall take office upon confirmation by a majority vote of both Houses of Congress.
3. Whenever the President transmits to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives his written declaration that he is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office, and until he transmits to them a written declaration to the contrary, such powers and duties shall be discharged by the Vice President as Acting President.
4. Whenever the Vice President and a majority of either the principal officers of the executive departments or of such other body as Congress may by law provide, transmit to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives their written declaration that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office, the Vice President shall immediately assume the powers and duties of the office as Acting President.
Thereafter, when the President transmits to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives his written declaration that no inability exists, he shall resume the powers and duties of his office unless the Vice President and a majority of either the principal officers of the executive department or of such other body as Congress may by law provide, transmit within four days to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives their written declaration that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office. Thereupon Congress shall decide the issue, assembling within forty eight hours for that purpose if not in session. If the Congress, within twenty one days after receipt of the latter written declaration, or, if Congress is not in session, within twenty one days after Congress is required to assemble, determines by two thirds vote of both Houses that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office, the Vice President shall continue to discharge the same as Acting President; otherwise, the President shall resume the powers and duties of his office.
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I guess it would come down to the determination if Biden was a legally elected VP or not.
One mention was made that the Electoral College votes for BHO would be discarded. If so, Biden's votes also go away.
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Solus,
I believe that the members of the Electoral College vote for each the president and the vice-president so Biden could be declared the winner as having received more votes than, say, Romney. But, if SCOTUS declared the elections invalid, then the dilemma would present itself. I say again, they won't do that and it would be 5-4 or 6-3 against doing that with Roberts doing his Obamacare thing again.
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They would simply declare Obama ineligible in accordance with the previously posted amendment and Biden would be sworn in.