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Title: Did he really use an AR at Sanday Hook?
Post by: mrmatt2you on January 14, 2013, 09:28:21 AM
I saw this on a FB page.   I noticed this report was posted on 1/2.   I remember hearing that he left the AR in the car, but used handguns.   Now they are saying it was used, etc.   But this media report says it was left in the car.  Do we know for sure what the hell was used???
http://tv.naturalnews.com/v.asp?v=2E10716E6FD870ADECD5461A6778F3AB


Title: Re: Did he really use an AR at Sanday Hook?
Post by: jnevis on January 14, 2013, 09:59:19 AM
That may have been posted on the 2nd, but the report mentions "Just last week on the 12th..." so I'd bet it was an old report someone is reposting.  IIRC it was after the 2nd that the Medical Examiner released thier report that there were wounds consistant with a 223 rifle in all victims.
Title: Re: Did he really use an AR at Sanday Hook?
Post by: Frosty on January 14, 2013, 10:06:28 AM
The world may never know ??? Personally I believe that the news media and other anti's are going to stick with the "Assault weapon" it fits their gun ban agenda and that is that. My blood boils when the uninformed media, public & politicians throw that term around.
Title: Re: Did he really use an AR at Sanday Hook?
Post by: Tyler Durden on January 14, 2013, 11:31:14 AM
I only found one news source that identified the trunk gun as a Saiga shotgun.

My guess is the media hasn't harped on that because the word "shotgun" would perk up the Fudds's ears.  The Obama administration and the media want to keep the Fudds apathetic and on the sidelines.

Supposedly, Adam Lanza was dropping mags left and right before any of the mags ran dry.

He was also wearing ear plugs.

Another thing I find odd was that the black Honda was towed away in the rain, that it wasn't towed to a police garage on Friday night.  As far as I know, fingerprints are severely degraded when exposed to moisture.  I didn't see any fingerprint powder or dust on the outside of the car.  So at the least, it is shoddy police work.
Title: Re: Did he really use an AR at Sanday Hook?
Post by: 2HOW on January 14, 2013, 12:12:35 PM
I only found one news source that identified the trunk gun as a Saiga shotgun.

My guess is the media hasn't harped on that because the word "shotgun" would perk up the Fudds's ears.  The Obama administration and the media want to keep the Fudds apathetic and on the sidelines.

Supposedly, Adam Lanza was dropping mags left and right before any of the mags ran dry.

He was also wearing ear plugs.

Another thing I find odd was that the black Honda was towed away in the rain, that it wasn't towed to a police garage on Friday night.  As far as I know, fingerprints are severely degraded when exposed to moisture.  I didn't see any fingerprint powder or dust on the outside of the car.  So at the least, it is shoddy police work.

I know it wasn't an AR in the trunk, video showed large red rounds being cleared from what appeared to be a side charged carbine,.
Title: Re: Did he really use an AR at Sanday Hook?
Post by: tombogan03884 on January 14, 2013, 12:20:52 PM
Does any have acquaintances in Newtown who can confirm this actually happened ?
Title: Re: Did he really use an AR at Sanday Hook?
Post by: jnevis on January 14, 2013, 12:30:26 PM
I don't even think anyone there will be able to tell you the whole story, unless they were PHYSICALLY there at the time.  I'd consider an FOIA reuqest to the Medical Examiners office and Sheriffs Dept a good start.
Title: Re: Did he really use an AR at Sanday Hook?
Post by: Tyler Durden on January 14, 2013, 01:53:24 PM
The search warrants/records have been sealed for 90 days:


http://www.ctpost.com/policereports/article/Sandy-Hook-affidavits-remain-sealed-4150259.php

Which is probably why Biden was quoted as to the effect of " we have a very tight window to get this done."

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/OTUS/sandy-hook-elementary-biden-includes-nra-wal-mart-background-checks/story?id=18174779


If my info about Lanza dropping mags willy nilly not using the full 30 rounds in each mag is correct and makes it out in the public domain, then that lets all the wind out of the anti's sails with regards to a hi-cap magazine ban.  EDIT:  in less than 90 days, that tidbit if info becomes official and released to the public.
Title: Re: Did he really use an AR at Sanday Hook?
Post by: tombogan03884 on January 14, 2013, 06:39:31 PM
I don't even think anyone there will be able to tell you the whole story, unless they were PHYSICALLY there at the time.  I'd consider an FOIA reuqest to the Medical Examiners office and Sheriffs Dept a good start.

I don't really care about the "whole story".
Just one or two people to say "Yes, my next door neighbor, lost a child"
Anything besides the sensationalized claims of an untrustworthy media.
Title: Re: Did he really use an AR at Sanday Hook?
Post by: alfsauve on January 14, 2013, 08:31:50 PM

The search warrants/records have been sealed for 90 days:


This part has me puzzled.  Why?  It's not like there is or ever will be a court case.  The perp is dead.

What exactly are they investigating?  A second suspect?  No the article says unlikely.  LEOs have all the evidence, so it's not like somebody could destroy it or contaminate the crime scene.

And I doubt if the MSM, who favors more gun control is going to contest this, as it might weaken the gun control efforts.

 
Title: Re: Did he really use an AR at Sanday Hook?
Post by: MikeBjerum on January 14, 2013, 08:39:01 PM
As long as we are all tweeking our foil hats, why aren't we hearing the 911 tapes?

A month out, and they haven't been released.  I don't think they should be public, but as long as they are, why aren't they being played on every news show?
Title: Re: Did he really use an AR at Sanday Hook?
Post by: tombogan03884 on January 14, 2013, 09:35:11 PM
As long as we are all tweeking our foil hats, why aren't we hearing the 911 tapes?

A month out, and they haven't been released.  I don't think they should be public, but as long as they are, why aren't they being played on every news show?

When Tyler first brought up the subject, I was just getting ready to say "what a load of crap", when 5 words flashed through my mind.
"Waco and Fast and Furious". The next thought was "? damn ?"  ???
Title: Re: Did he really use an AR at Sanday Hook?
Post by: Tyler Durden on January 14, 2013, 09:49:15 PM
Somebody on another forum was giving me grief about the Sandy Hook fully exposed video on Youtube.

Go fast forward it to the 10:45 mark, then watch the next 30 seconds.  The whole video is 28 or 30 minutes long.

Anyway this dude on this other forum was giving me hard time talking about the guy with camo pants being caught, handcuffed, and put in the passenger seat of police cruiser (instead of the back).  His reply was that CT state trooper cars don't have the cages or barricades that seperate the front from the back.

So my reply included a pic of John Doe #2 from the OKC bombing, saying we still don't know who that dude was.  And that I'd like to know who the dude in the cruiser was.

Anyway the blog site I got the puc of JD#2 from led me to Terrence yeakey and Jesse Trentadue.  Google those names.

How far down does this rabbit hole go?  :o
Title: Re: Did he really use an AR at Sanday Hook?
Post by: tombogan03884 on January 14, 2013, 10:17:04 PM
WTF  ?  There's pages and pages of hits

http://www.search.ask.com/web?o=15492&tpr=6&q=Terrence%2520+yeakey     1-10 of 182 results


a couple that seemed to jump out.

http://forums.officer.com/t64968/

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/fr/618176/posts

Another one with pages of hits .   1-10 of 3,910 results


http://www.okgazette.com/oklahoma/article-16746-info-on-informants.html

The background

http://www.okgazette.com/oklahoma/article-16746-info-on-informants.html

WTF ?

http://www.deseretnews.com/article/865552630/FBI-explanation-of-missing-Oklahoma-City-bombing-tapes-not-credible-judge-says.html?pg=all
Title: Re: Did he really use an AR at Sanday Hook?
Post by: Tyler Durden on January 15, 2013, 12:06:42 AM
Oh... WOW!

Did you read this part:
Quote
“Late morning, on April 20, NY 29000-SI-DT met with ASAC (Assistant Special Agent in Charge) Andrew, SSA Thomas Lang, and SSA Nicoletti,” read the document, which was stamped “secret.” It went on to state the informant “is a senior official employed by ABC News for over 15 years.

From here:

http://www.okgazette.com/oklahoma/article-16746-info-on-informants.html

Title: Re: Did he really use an AR at Sanday Hook?
Post by: Ksail101 on January 16, 2013, 08:20:55 AM
Yeah but does anyone trust that medical examiner. Have you seen the video of his new statement/interview?

These videos are what they. I am not claiming I hold these as truths but the first video is really worth the time watching. It has in it the interview with the medical examiner and the sheriff (who I believe has been through a horrible event but leave his gun thoughts out of the media. Makes him look bad in the sense he believes he is better than the average American.) The guy doesn't seem too credible. And I'm sure there are not a lot of murders in Sandy Hook but still maybe he should of let someone with a little more experience handle this.

http://beforeitsnews.com/conspiracy-theories/2013/01/the-sandy-hook-actors-2447410.html