The Down Range Forum

Member Section => Down Range Cafe => Topic started by: garand4life on February 18, 2013, 01:57:28 PM

Title: Carrying discreetly in business casual
Post by: garand4life on February 18, 2013, 01:57:28 PM
I am having a hard time finding an effective way to carry my baby Glock. For the work I'm doing we have are business casual. Typically khakis and a tucked polo or button up shirt. I'd thought about a tuckable holster but that doesn't seem all that reliable. So now I'm looking at ankle carry. Thought? Recommendations? I know this is a real broad question with no right answer but I'm curious, for those with similar restrictions, what has been tried and worked.
I thought about going smaller gun but for now that's not an option. Neither is a concealment vest. I can't pull off a Michael bane.
Title: Re: Carrying discreetly in business casual
Post by: TAB on February 18, 2013, 02:47:28 PM
i carry a snubby in a holster in the back pocket.  Granted its not a glock, but know one gives it a second look.
Title: Re: Carrying discreetly in business casual
Post by: brushmore on February 18, 2013, 02:50:38 PM
I know it is not what you want to hear but my solution is pocket carry which in your case would probably mean a smaller gun.

Don't forget to consider off body carry as well.  There are some options that look like business organizers that I think might work well.
Title: Re: Carrying discreetly in business casual
Post by: jnevis on February 18, 2013, 02:52:25 PM
I've never felt an ankle holster was a good idea.  It's pretty obvious what you're doing if you need to get the gun, and is a lot slower to present.
Some of the IWBs basically suck, but others are pretty effective and stay put.  Glocks are definately NOT (front) pocket guns, although some have gotten away with it.
Title: Re: Carrying discreetly in business casual
Post by: tombogan03884 on February 18, 2013, 03:03:10 PM
Kel tec P-32 or P 3AT (both the same size) or Ruger LCP pocket carry , invisible.
Title: Re: Carrying discreetly in business casual
Post by: JC5123 on February 18, 2013, 05:22:48 PM
As long as you stick to the button up, look at 5.11 button ups designed for concealed carry with a shoulder rig. I have used this effectively with my Sig 229 in a sherpa rig. These shirts look like they button normally, but have concealed "snaps" that can be pulled open and your gun accessed very quickly.

http://www.511tactical.com/All-Products/Shirts/Concealed-Carry/Covert-Shirt-Performance.html#679

Maybe not the best option, but one option.
Title: Re: Carrying discreetly in business casual
Post by: Timothy on February 18, 2013, 05:31:33 PM
Business casual is jeans and a t-shirt without holes for me!  Maybe a hoodie as well this time of year..

 ;D

We're a C-TPAT facility so no firearms allowed in the building.  We even have very scary signs on all the doors that announce that we're a "GUN FREE ZONE"!  The LCR stays in the console of the car with a holster and speed strips...
Title: Re: Carrying discreetly in business casual
Post by: Magoo541 on February 18, 2013, 05:38:33 PM
I usually wear jeans or khakis with either a t-shirt/pullover combo or a collared shirt.  I carry an XDM 4.5 in 45 in a Concealment Solutions IWB everyday.  If I have to crawl around a machine I'll put it in my backpack but other than that I have it on whether I'm sitting at the desk running Solidworks, making parts on a mill or lathe, working on process improvement or sitting a meeting.

Drawing from an IWB even with a tucked shirt (I wore a button down shirt to church last week tucked in around the holster) the draw isn't that slow but you need to practice.  I try to get 10 a day in, usually at night before I get undressed.
Title: Re: Carrying discreetly in business casual
Post by: Solus on February 18, 2013, 06:56:35 PM
I used a SmartCarry for a Glock 21 while at work.   It needs a pair of pants that are just baggy enough that it won't bulge.  Your smaller gun would need less.  While not as quick as a belt carry, it would be faster than an ankle holster and close to a pocket holster, but it needs two hands.

http://www.smartcarry.com/

It also eliminates the problem of what do do with a belt and maybe pocket gun when you need to sit in the restroom.  Pull up up onto your belly. 

Title: Re: Carrying discreetly in business casual
Post by: DonWorsham on February 19, 2013, 07:32:35 AM
I am having a hard time finding an effective way to carry my baby Glock. For the work I'm doing we have are business casual.

If jeans are an option, try these. Big front pockets. My G26 fits nicely. I took Rob Pincus' Combat Focus Shooting class drawing from my right front pocket.

http://www.sportsmansguide.com/net/cb/cb.aspx?a=641185
Title: Re: Carrying discreetly in business casual
Post by: crusader rabbit on February 19, 2013, 07:34:33 AM
I've never felt an ankle holster was a good idea.  It's pretty obvious what you're doing if you need to get the gun, and is a lot slower to present.
Some of the IWBs basically suck, but others are pretty effective and stay put.  Glocks are definately NOT (front) pocket guns, although some have gotten away with it.

Normal carry for me is my Glock 27 in a FOBUS on my right hip with an un-tucked polo covering.  When it's a dressier requirement, the 27 goes in an Uncle Mike and in my front pocket.  It definitely IS a (front) pocket gun and is almost invisible to anyone.

The belly-band solution sits in my bin of unused holsters along with my "Thunder-wear" a "Pager Pal," and a Galco S.O.B. that I spent $65 on.  The S.O.B. works just fine if you're wearing a sports jacket, but it is uncomfortable if you need to drive anywhere, so it's in the unused bin.  And I am too old and stiff for an ankle holster to be effective.

FWIW

Crusader Rabbit
Title: Re: Carrying discreetly in business casual
Post by: ellis4538 on February 19, 2013, 02:08:21 PM
I wondered if you were going to chime in Don...welcome back. 

FWIW check out the Sig 938.  Not as many rounds as the BG but an option.  Also try carrying your spare mag in a nylon knife sheath.  Works well for me especially tucked behind my cell phone case.


Richard
Title: Re: Carrying discreetly in business casual
Post by: santahog on February 19, 2013, 11:29:07 PM
I use this with a LC9 as bug..
http://www.midwayusa.com/product/961958/desantis-super-fly-pocket-holster-ambidextrous-kel-tec-p3at-ruger-lcp-with-crimson-trace-lasergrips-nylon-black
I have front pockets big enough to carry a small rolled up phone book though..
If you're the sport coat type, alot of smaller handguns will fit in a pocket of a blazer..
Good luck to you..
Title: Re: Carrying discreetly in business casual
Post by: rojawe on February 22, 2013, 04:44:50 PM
Hope you don't shoot your ball park franks off with it in your front pocket ;D 8)
Title: Re: Carrying discreetly in business casual
Post by: MikeBjerum on February 22, 2013, 04:55:05 PM
In the circles I run in Business Casual is slacks, dress shirt with no tie and sport coat, or a suit with a turtle neck rather than shirt and tie.  All of that said, with a baby Glock I would go with an IWB.  If your definition of Business Casual is different go with a Crossbreed tuckable.

Your issue is that hiding a Glock brings to the forefront the nickname "block."  I don't find it an easy gun to conceal on a day to day basis.

In Business and Business Casual I carry my 1911, but in our more relaxed settings I stick to my LCP in a holster with a print pad.  The LCP looks like a wallet in the pocket.
Title: Re: Carrying discreetly in business casual
Post by: garand4life on February 24, 2013, 01:41:33 PM
Ended up trading a friend the 27 for his LCP and a few hundred buck...
Title: Re: Carrying discreetly in business casual
Post by: fightingquaker13 on February 25, 2013, 02:59:57 AM
PLeated kakhis work fine with a G-26. I like sportiff as the pockets have a stiffenner around the seam. It makes it easy to draw. They're a bit baggy, but its Florida so who cares? Like wise a solid color Hawian or guyabarra type shirt is perfectly fine. This permits IWB. Failing that, a mouse gun like the kel-tec .32, LCP or a Bond whould be my choice. None are perfect, but they beat the hell out of nothing.
Title: Re: Carrying discreetly in business casual
Post by: JoeG on February 25, 2013, 08:36:56 AM
I used a SmartCarry for a Glock 21 while at work.   It needs a pair of pants that are just baggy enough that it won't bulge.  Your smaller gun would need less.  While not as quick as a belt carry, it would be faster than an ankle holster and close to a pocket holster, but it needs two hands.

http://www.smartcarry.com/



Is this comfortable when sitting for long periods or driving?
Title: Re: Carrying discreetly in business casual
Post by: MikeBjerum on February 25, 2013, 08:49:43 AM
Since garand4life has commented that he has switched guns I will share something that is commonly stated, and we advise in class:

The gun and the best carry method is the one that you are comfortable with and will use as much as possible.

A gun is of no use at home on the dresser top, and a carry method that causes you to constantly fidgit, adjust, or is just plain uncomfortable will not be efficient and will result in leaving the gun at home on the dresser top.

By the way, I need to mention practice:  You must practice on a regular basis not only with the gun, but with the carry method, clothing, and situations simulating how you live.  With my comfort level being my LCP and 1911, and my J Frame sliding to a back up position I have chosen two expensive guns to practice with, but I still do it weekly.
Title: Re: Carrying discreetly in business casual
Post by: Strider on March 14, 2013, 12:11:42 AM
Since it looks like you have traded guns, the options may have changed. I regularly carry a Glock 22 or 1911 concealed under an untucked polo or with a sport coat. With no cover garment, I use either a belly band or a Crossbreed tuckable(Galco also). Ankle carry is perfectly acceptable if your situation allows it. Dry training will tell you what works best for you but may not be best for others.