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Member Section => Politics & RKBA => Topic started by: MikeBjerum on February 22, 2013, 09:50:06 PM

Title: Organize For Action
Post by: MikeBjerum on February 22, 2013, 09:50:06 PM
Has anyone else seen the ads on newspaper websites by the group Organize For Action?  They are working to have people notify elected officials to vote for universal background checks.

The rub is the lie they are spreading.  They claim that "92% of Americans support" universal background checks.  They also claim that 6.6 million firearms were transferred without at check in 2012.
Title: Re: Organize For Action
Post by: fightingquaker13 on February 22, 2013, 10:08:29 PM
Has anyone else seen the ads on newspaper websites by the group Organize For Action?  They are working to have people notify elected officials to vote for universal background checks.

The rub is the lie they are spreading.  They claim that "92% of Americans support" universal background checks.  They also claim that 6.6 million firearms were transferred without at check in 2012.
Its the way the game is played. Note that Lenin's commies dubbed themselves the Bolsheviks "the majority" even though they were far from it, and the Occupy idiots were the 99%. Wrong again. Tell a lie often enough and it enters the common lexicon. Thing is, I'm beyond outrage. I'm just bored. Seriously? This again? You're just isulting me. How many times do we have to refute you and you still sing the same song? These people do not give a rat's rump for logic or truth, they just want to appeal to emotions and short memories. Fine. Say what you want. But, I'll rest on two things. The Court finally upholding the words "Shall not be infringed" and purple and red state dems (and RINOS) knowing that voting for an AWB amounts to a letter of resignation.
Title: Re: Organize For Action
Post by: tombogan03884 on February 22, 2013, 10:17:13 PM
It's a front for Obama

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Organizing_for_Action

 It is the successor of U.S. president Barack Obama's 2012 re-election campaign and of Organizing for America, which itself succeeded Obama's 2008 campaign.[2]

Founded after President Obama's re-election, the group seeks to mobilize supporters in favor of Obama's legislative priorities. OFA is registered as a 501(c)(4) organization, which allows it to advocate for legislation but prohibits it from specifically supporting political candidates.[3]
Title: Re: Organize For Action
Post by: locnload on February 22, 2013, 10:49:06 PM
I have to ask, if 6.6 millionguns were transfered last year without a background check, then how do they know about it?  It just go'es to show the saying is true.  89 percentof statistics are made up on the spot.   ???
Title: Re: Organize For Action
Post by: TAB on February 23, 2013, 02:17:52 AM
They could even been legal transfers from a ffl.   LEAs  don't need a back ground check to buy a gun.  Neither does the feds or most govemenrt agencys.
Title: Re: Organize For Action
Post by: alfsauve on February 23, 2013, 06:07:38 AM
The statistic came from a pre-NICS, poorly done survey, that has been soundly discredited.

Also, in many states, CCW holders don't have to go through NICS even though they do have to do a 4473.

Title: Re: Organize For Action
Post by: Ulmus on February 23, 2013, 09:05:39 AM
Just because it was soundly discredited doesn't mean the average person knows it.

They're working on the rule, "Show it enough and it's true."
Title: Re: Organize For Action
Post by: tombogan03884 on February 23, 2013, 09:15:43 AM
www.gunfacts.info
Title: Re: Organize For Action
Post by: MikeBjerum on February 23, 2013, 09:51:32 AM
Just because it was soundly discredited doesn't mean the average person knows it.

They're working on the rule, "Show it enough and it's true."

This is how many people end up in jail.  I can't remember the exact name of it, but it is planting memories.  Many people accused, and several convicted, of child abuse are found guilty with testimony from children who were improperly questioned.  It is basically a matter of planting ideas or thoughts in the mind of someone under stress, and they implant it as fact.

Put a person suffering from depression, PTSD, or recovering from addiction in a setting where the counselor asks questions like "When did you stop beating your wife?", or "When did you realize it was wrong to sexually abuse your daughter?", and they will come to believe that they were a wife beater or pedophile.

Spin doctors take figures, twist them, and then use them in a way that serves their purpose.  Sad thing is that most people are too lazy to check it out.
Title: Re: Organize For Action
Post by: Warrior1256 on February 25, 2013, 06:55:59 PM
Three degrees of lies;

1. Lies
2. Damned lies
3. Statistics
Title: Re: Organize For Action
Post by: lhprop1 on February 26, 2013, 02:27:10 PM
89 percentof statistics are made up on the spot.   ???

It's actually 88.2%, but who's counting?