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Member Section => Down Range Cafe => Topic started by: speckfise721 on February 23, 2013, 10:06:45 PM
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i have a marlin 336 chambered in .35 rem. was thinkin of buying an 870 slug gun or another marlin 336 chambered in 30-30 this time.. im hunting hogs in dense green brair.. any ideas?
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Depends. If money is no object I'd buy an AR-10, a bunch of mags and top it with an eotech and call it good. In the real world I'd buy either an AK (probably about $1200 now on gun toker :P) or get practical and buy a lever action Winchester model 94 or the Marlin equivelent in .44 mag or .454 Casull. I've killed a lot of hogs with a model 94, and if it hadn't rusted out on me (my fault for leaving it in a storage locker in Florida) I'd have put an easily acquired red dot like the eotech on top. The irons were fine, but once you hit forty the eyes start to go, and I have come to Jesus on red dots for quick short range work in thick cover, which is most of the time here in Florida when you are going after hogs.
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Not the Armalite !
Go with DPMS Panther Arms.
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The .450 Bushmaster should work really well on hogs.
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yeah.. im lookin at building an ar-10.. but for short term i was thinking of taking my leopold vxii off the .35 rem and putting my old bushnell holo site on top.. not sure though.. i like the idea of the 12 ga slug gun for some reason
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My pig gun is a guide gun in 45-70. :)
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yeah.. im lookin at building an ar-10.. but for short term i was thinking of taking my leopold vxii off the .35 rem and putting my old bushnell holo site on top.. not sure though.. i like the idea of the 12 ga slug gun for some reason
That would work for me. The 35 rem will do it for hogs. Though if you want a new rifle (and who am I to not enable your habit? ;D) I would reccomend a lever in .44 mag or better for short range stopping power (dear, its about safety), or one in 30-30 for cheap ammo (we're saving money), or the AR 10 as its a multitasker (See, it means I only have to buy one gun rather than three, its a bargain!). That said, depending on your shot gun platform (assuming Mossy or 870) you can get a used slug barrel for cheap and nothing says bacon like a 12 gauge slug as long as its under 50 yards. I don't care what anyone says, I think even that is pushing it as far as kill shot accuracy. But inside that range? Its a whole can of whoop ass. Good luck.
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Noveske 10" Barreled 300 AAC Blackout with an AAC can, one of the 1st focal plane 1-8X Bushnell optics and the appropriate accoutrements.
Now that I'm done spending your money, I'd use an HK 91 (.308) with a good 3-9X Redfield.
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My thought is that the "dense green briar" pushes the need for the 870 with heavy slugs.
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i have a marlin 336 chambered in .35 rem... im hunting hogs in dense green brair.. any ideas?
Buy some more shells for the 35?
I bet those are still available.
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Buy some more shells for the 35?
I bet those are still available.
This.
What you got is pretty darn good. I'd slap a set of XS ghost ring sights on it and merrily slay every piggie I came across.
Of course, if you are just looking to buy another gun then there are lots of good options. "Hog guns" are my favorite type of rifles: short, handy and with a punch!
Ruger Guide or Alaskan - .375 Ruger
Marlin 1895 SBL - .45/70
Ruger Gunsite Scout - .308 Win (wish it were a .338)
Remington 673 - .350 Rem Mag
Remington 7600 - .35 Whelen
Winchester 1886 - .45/70
CZ 550 - 9.3x62 or .375 H&H
Ruger Hawkeye Compact Magnum - .338 RCM
A lot of people don't like single shots, but I am a fan. I'll throw in these as well:
Winchester 1885 - .405 WCF, .45/70, .375 H&H
Ruger No. 1 - 9.3x74R, .405 WCF, .450-400 NE", .375 Ruger, .375 H&H, .416 Remington
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I have a nice scar on my leg that says even a m1 g is not enough gun. so no way I would take a single shot. would you beleave a 30.06 will fail to pentrate a pigs skull? How about it happening twice? well it did, I saw it happen. As in I was doing the shooting.
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I have a nice scar on my leg that says even a m1 g is not enough gun. so no way I would take a single shot. would you beleave a 30.06 will fail to pentrate a pigs skull? How about it happening twice? well it did, I saw it happen. As in I was doing the shooting.
I am firmly with TAB here. I got to spend some quailty time up a mesquite tree when a large sow violently objected (for some strange reason) to me putting an arow in her ass. Pigs are dangerous game. From that day on I ignored the Tx. regs and carried the Blackhawk in archery season.
Even leaving that aside, if you still hunt in thick brush, you're often looking at taking a snap shot with no warning. A follow up shot can be a game saver. Its why I'd tend towards a pump, SA or lever gun in a big sturdy caliber prefferably in something starting in the number 4. I make an exception for the AK or AR-10 as you have fast follow ups. Don't get me wrong, I've brought home the bacon with a .270 plenty of times, but that was hunting from a stand and not pushing brush. Two different games.
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People regularly make one shot kills on pigs with .223's.
The secret is they don't take a shot at the hardest part of the pig which is angled to best deflect a bullet.
They take anything BUT head shots.
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People regularly make one shot kills on pigs with .223's.
The secret is they don't take a shot at the hardest part of the pig which is angled to best deflect a bullet.
They take anything BUT head shots.
Kind of like shooting politicians. TAB will say not to shoot them in head as its too hard. I'll say not to shoot them in the ass as it makes them frisky. Aim for the heart, though its a damn small target. ;D
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when you are getting charged, you only really have a head shot.
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i have a marlin 336 chambered in .35 rem. was thinkin of buying an 870 slug gun or another marlin 336 chambered in 30-30 this time.. im hunting hogs in dense green brair.. any ideas?
This is my Remington XP-100 in .35 Remington. I've never understood why this isn't a more popular cartridge. With the right bullets it's a far better stopper than the .30-30. I put it into a Fajen Brown Laminated Stock I picked up at Midway some years back when they were having a closeout on them. I never could warm up to the plastic stock these guns came with. This gun shoots under an inch at 100 yards with Remington factory ammunition. Scope is a Burris in Leupold mounts and rings.
(http://imageshack.us/a/img102/8339/remingtonxp10035rem9bq.jpg)
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Lot of guys over here use a 44 magnum lever action for pigs in thickish scrub or lignum, big heavy bullets less likely to deflect and distance is not a prob as if your on foot or bike/atv distance will likely be less than 100 yards.
I would go a 454 lever, being you can use a 45 colt as well, ballistically you can load a 45 colt to near 44 mag specs any how. Can also use up to 400gr pills in 454.
Bear in mind you guys have access to the 500 S&W in a pump configuration so that may be even a better bang for buck.
Just my thoughts
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when you are getting charged, you only really have a head shot.
I hate having to take a head shot.
I've seen a .357 magnum ricochet off a hog's forehead..... it split the skin and stunned him for a second, but didn't put him down.
I lucked (?) out the only time I ever had one charge. Fortunately, hogs can't really raise their heads very high, so I had enough of a height advantage at 6'2" that as he got close enough, I actually was able to aim between the ears and slightly back from the skull....... the .44 magnum bullet severed the spine between the shoulder blades, dropping him like a sack of potatoes.
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Your 35 Rem is perfect for use as a hog gun in short to medium range scenarios.
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The one that got my leg, took 2 arrows and 3 30.06. 2 of those cracked the skull, but didn't go in. the 3rd, busted teeth and came out the ass. 350# hog charging is no joke. I was running back up for the 2 bow hunters, about 50 yards behind them. Got me, went about 10' and died.
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Hogs and bears, the worst possible shot is a head on head shot due to the angle of the skull.
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I'd get the cammo one. That way you save money on ammo you can ugly them to death. Yikes that thing is wrong! :P Seriously though, I like the guns, the look like a perfect bush gun. I'd get 45-70 or .454 or .44 mag just for price and availabilty of ammo though. Check out Rossi as well.
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THere is no reason to ever have a cammo gun, unless you are hunting 2 legged criters.
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Marlin has been making the lever .444 for ever, a friend of mine bought one a few years ago.
I'd go with the 45/70 guide gun for cheaper ammo while keeping some of the reach.
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THere is no reason to ever have a cammo gun, unless you are hunting 2 legged criters.
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This I totally agree with. For decades, if not for over a century, all game shot on this planet was taken with gloss blued guns equipped with Walnut stocks. Then, all of a sudden, when these companies like Real Tree and Mossy Oak came out with liquid dipped camo, it became all the rage. I can understand the rust resisting qualities of Stainless Steel guns in humid, wet climates, but realistically how many hunters lost shots because the game "saw their gun"?
I'm not saying a camo gun doesn't have certain appeal. It's just not as necessary as many make it. If one feels they are better off with a camo gun, one can simply wrap it in camo non adhesive tape for just a few dollars. Today we're putting camo on everything. I honestly think it's style, nothing more. When women start wearing camo panties and Jammie's, that more or less says everything.
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THere is no reason to ever have a cammo gun, unless you are hunting 2 legged criters.
I disagree!
That camo coating provides a level of protection against corrosion. For those of us that hunt in rain, sleet, snow, frigid temps, boats, swamps, mud holes, hedge rows, heavy brush, and any other crap missed the coating is a tremendous way to avoid corrosion on exterior surfaces.
Anything a person can do to protect metal surfaces and maintain ease of use is a plus. When I clean I spray the trigger group with silicone and go. If I get caught in heavy moisture I am fine until I reach a dry out time which can be many hours or even days. When I go through brush I can use the gun to protect me from scratches instead of the other way around.
I have blued shotguns with discoloration caused by rain and 12 hours in the blind, even though it was clean when I went.
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Since we've drifted so far from the original list of guns I will throw in the one of my favorite:
S&W 500 PC - This is an old photo. The gun now sports an EoTech
(http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e330/m58/500SW.jpg)
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About camo guns ..
Agreed that it would only be useful for hunting 2 legged targets, having your pig gun camo would make it dual duty.
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Camo guns are really popular with turkey hunters for good reason. For other game it's not necessary.
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M58 The point you bring up is not about the cammo, but a side effect of the cammo. as far as turkey hunters go. I have gone turkey hunting at least 2 dozen times. I have only come back home empty handed once. Its either been a air rifle or a 12 ga. Always blue and walnut. its not the gun, its what you do.
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You are correct TAB, but when was the last time you saw water transfer guns in hot pink or orange? They come in camo, and it has a great advantage.
As far actual hiding from most game goes, all you need to do is keep have minimal scent, eliminate glare and reflection, and avoid standing out as an odd shape. For some color is also a concern, but it does not HAVE to be a leafy or plant pattern.
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I honestly don't even see the guns on the shelf that are water transfers. when I worked for a ffl I never sold one or saw anyone else sell one.