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Member Section => Politics & RKBA => Topic started by: twyacht on March 06, 2013, 04:05:19 PM
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Really?
http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2013/03/foghorn/audrey-gibson-mandatory-anger-management-before-allowed-to-buy-ammo/#more-207719
Audrey Gibson: Mandatory Anger Management Before Allowed to Buy Ammo
Posted on March 6, 2013 by Nick Leghorn
A Florida state senator has recently introduced a bill that seeks to end the “plague” of “gun violence” by requiring anyone who wants to buy ammunition to first take an anger management course. Fox News has the details . . .
The bill filed Saturday by state Sen. Audrey Gibson, D-Jacksonville, would require a three-day waiting period for the sale of any firearm and the sale of ammunition to anyone who has not completed anger management courses. The proposal would require ammo buyers to take the anger management courses every 10 years.
“This is not about guns,” Gibson said. “This is about ammunition and not only for the safety of the general community, but also for the safety of law enforcement.”
As a member of the millions of gun owners who have never fired a shot in anger or committed a crime, I find this highly offensive. The requirement for anger management classes makes the assumption that all gun owners are angry, and that the only reason people buy guns is to settle grudges. I’d think that someone with her background would be overly sensitive to laws that assume someone’s behavior based on one of their traits, like the assumption that all black people are too dumb to vote. What she has said by introducing this law is that all gun owners are too angry to own ammunition.
“It’s about getting people to think, really, about how much ammunition they need,” Gibson said. “It’s a step, I think, in a safer direction. It’s about getting people to think before they buy.”
I need as much ammunition as I want, buddy. What does it matter how much ammunition I have on hand? Do I go around asking how many baseball bats you have in your house? Or questioning how many death machines (I mean cars) are in your garage? Do you also want to limit the number of newspapers someone can read?
Gun and ammunition ownership has already been established as an individual, basic human right. A right that is protected by the Constitution and upheld by the Supreme Court. And this Florida legislator wants to introduce an onerous and pointless requirement to keep people from practicing with their legally owned firearm. It fails the “strict scrutiny” test by any account, and would be laughed out of court if introduced.
Gibson insisted the bill is not “accusatory” toward gun and ammunition owners, but rather an effort to improve the safety of her community.
I’m going to call bullshit on that statement. A bill (such as this one) can be BOTH accusatory towards gun owners AND intended to improve security, the two are not mutually exclusive. And the inability for Audrey Gibson to realize exactly how offensive her bill is to gun owners shows exactly how little she thinks of those who own guns. Untermensch, perhaps.
This is another indication of the ongoing vilification of gun owners by gun control advocates. They’re constantly and repeatedly trying to paint gun owners as rednecks and yokels who are too dumb and too irrational to be trusted with firearms, without actually looking at any evidence on the matter. They’re legislating based on personal biases and stereotypes. Gun owners are becoming the new favored and politically correct “minority” to vilify, now that racial issues have more or less died out in the United States. Its just sad that legislators like Audrey Gibson have such a short memory, since it wasn’t too long ago that her parents were being persecuted in the exact same way.
Rather than requiring gun owners to take anger management courses, I think we should require our legislators to take a course on history and the constitution before they propose legislation.
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She's from the Jacksonville area. How the hell do these people get elec-----,....nevermind... :-\
Bill will go nowhere.
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As Sheriff Jim said today, "I have to quit asking how stupid can people be. They're taking it as a challenge."
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What? That pisses me off! I'd like to take that stupid heiffer and.....oh, wait a minute, um, buy her flowers and thank her for her valuable input. Yeah, that's what I meant. Can I have some ammo please? ;D
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I think we need to make I.Q. tests and drug tests manditory before anyone can run for public office. :P
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I think we need to make I.Q. tests and drug tests manditory before anyone can run for public office. :P
Impossible. No one currently in office would qualify.
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“It’s about getting people to think, really, about how much ammunition they need,” Gibson said.
More. Lots more you dimwitted twit.
Once you and your friends finish running this economy and this country into the mud farther than you already have, I'm probably gonna need it.
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How much ammo do I need? ENOUGH. When I quit shooting I will know if I purchased the correct amount.
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How much ammo do I need? ENOUGH. When I quit shooting I will know if I purchased the correct amount.
There's a group buy going on another board. A 50 gallon drum of 12,500 rounds of Lake City 5.56. That seems like about enough. It would manage my anger at least. ;D
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I would sure feel better if I had 50 gallons of 5.56.
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I would sure feel better if I had 50 gallons of 5.56.
If I had 1/4 that in each of the calibers I shoot, I would have a lot less anger that needed management.
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IF, and this is an IF, it gets broken down into 500 round lots in an ammo can, I'll hook you guys up. But right now there is all sorts of static about legalities about shipping. Basically if this happens, the guy is going to want 15% for his trouble, so figure $.40 per round plus shipping, postal money order, cash on the barrel head. I'm hoping this works, but no promises. He might just sell it locally at his gun store to avoid the hassle and keep his home folks happy (not to mention being able to go out into your garage and see 12,500 rounds there 8).) . I'll post updates as I get them. Anyway if you are prepared to drop three bills for Lake city, follow this thread.
PS I make nothing off this deal, I'm just sharing info.
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Thats not that much actually. I know 3 gun guys that would only last them a year.
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This is about guns. If you were to attend an Anger Management Class your name could be submitted to the NICS system as someone with a Mental Health Problem and therefore not eligible to purchase a firearm! Bills like this are the thin edge of the wedge. The Florida need to start a recall petition now and not wait for the next election.
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Anger mangament classes piss me off
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Anger mangament classes piss me off
Maybe we can send Charlie Sheen to her house to film a live episode. ;D
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Maybe we can send Charlie Sheen to her house to film a live episode. ;D
We should see if Charles Manson is up for a road trip. ;)
Old joke time:
The difference between Charles Manson & women?
Charles Manson looks crazy when you meet him.
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It's hard to believe that idiots lie this actually get elected to represent the public.
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Apparently some politicians haven't heeded the words of Ben Franklin "It is better to remain silent and be thought a fool then it is to speak and remove all doubt". It is amazing the intelligence/common sense level of these so called leaders. Common sense isn't so common with them.
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We can require proof of anger management classes for gun owners when we re-instate the repulsive intelligence tests for African-American voters like they used to have in FLA. :o ::)
Somehow I don't think that idea would sit too well with the distinguished representative of whatever planet she's from! >:(
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We can require proof of anger management classes for gun owners when we re-instate the repulsive intelligence tests for African-American voters like they used to have in FLA. :o ::)
Somehow I don't think that idea would sit too well with the distinguished representative of whatever planet she's from! >:(
Her constituents might make a one time exception in her case though.
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Typical urban wingnut from Jacksonville, she's a perfect representative for the idiots and imbeciles who elected her.
Just like this one from Hillsborough who proposed this thing:
"..Prohibiting a person from manufacturing, importing, possessing, purchasing, selling, or transferring any assault weapon or large-capacity magazine.."
http://www.flsenate.gov/Session/Bill/2013/1670
Neither bill has a snowball's chance in Miami of seeing daylight, but they might be outliers to push the envelope and see what they MIGHT get away with.