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Title: Ohio School Shooter Sentencing
Post by: PegLeg45 on March 20, 2013, 02:29:39 PM
The video and text descriptions shows just how sick this little bastard is......  >:(


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Ohio School Shooter TJ Lane Laughs, Gives Finger at His Sentencing

http://abcnews.go.com/US/ohio-school-shooter-tj-lane-victims-families-finger/story?id=18763554

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Lane arrived at his sentencing hearing today wearing a blue button down shirt. After he sat down, he unbuttoned the shirt to reveal a white T-shirt with the word "killer" emblazoned across the front in black marker.

When Lane was given the opportunity to make a statement to the court, he gave a short, crude statement that ended with "f*** all of you" before sticking up his middle finger in the courtroom filled with the loved ones of the three students he gunned down.

"Frankly, I wasn't prepared for this," the prosecutor said moments after Lane's gesture. He said the action was proof that Lane is a "disgusting human being."

"This is confirming what we have known all along, that this was a cold, calculated, premeditated killing," the prosecutor said.

Lane smirked and smiled as family members of his victims called him "repulsive" and hoped for him to be locked up in a cage "like an animal" for the rest of his life.

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"What was the motive for this merciless rampage?" the judge asked before announcing his sentence. "The answer is, we don't know. We have not been provided a clear answer or even a murky one."

Judge David Fuhry said Lane appeared to simply want to "make a big splash, make front page news."

"[He] attacked without discernible motive, provocation or reason. The court finds such a person extremely dangerous," he said.

The judge said whether Lane was in any way impaired at the time of the shooting was a big consideration. He said it was proven that Lane feigned mental illness after the shooting.

"To the contrary, TJ Lane was an intelligent student positioned to graduate early. He was not insane, incompetent or impaired on Feb. 27, 2012," the judge said. "He consciously and methodically carried out a plan to kill...Of course he knew that what he was doing was wrong."


(http://a.abcnews.com/images/US/ap_tj_lane_ll_130319_wg.jpg)
Title: Re: Ohio School Shooter Sentencing
Post by: lhprop1 on March 20, 2013, 02:55:21 PM
I really hope Bubba and his buddies take turns having their way with this little punk once he gets to the big house.  It still won't be justice for the families, but it will be something.
Title: Re: Ohio School Shooter Sentencing
Post by: fightingquaker13 on March 20, 2013, 03:11:00 PM
I really hope Bubba and his buddies take turns having their way with this little punk once he gets to the big house.  It still won't be justice for the families, but it will be something.
I think there is no doubt about that. Hell, if I were a prison guard I'd sell raffle tickets to share his cell.
Title: Re: Ohio School Shooter Sentencing
Post by: lhprop1 on March 20, 2013, 03:21:48 PM
I think there is no doubt about that. Hell, if I were a prison guard I'd sell raffle tickets to share his cell.

If I was the prison guard there, I may just overlook the shiv I saw his cellmate tuck into his waistband. 
Title: Re: Ohio School Shooter Sentencing
Post by: Solus on March 20, 2013, 03:28:26 PM
Read the story from another source.

From that read, I took away that he received 3 life sentences but the were not with no possibility of parole.

I didn't see that they were to be consecutive, or if that is excluded with possibility of parole, but he should never be let out.

 
Title: Re: Ohio School Shooter Sentencing
Post by: fightingquaker13 on March 20, 2013, 03:44:39 PM
Read the story from another source.

From that read, I took away that he received 3 life sentences but the were not with no possibility of parole.

I didn't see that they were to be consecutive, or if that is excluded with possibility of parole, but he should never be let out.

 
Agreed. But his age might have factored into it. Some states don't allow the "no possibility of parole" option if you were under 18 and others don't allow consecutive sentences if the crimes happened in a single transaction. I'm sure the judge maxed this guy out. I mean he was begging her to do it.
Title: Re: Ohio School Shooter Sentencing
Post by: Solus on March 20, 2013, 04:12:40 PM
Agreed. But his age might have factored into it. Some states don't allow the "no possibility of parole" option if you were under 18 and others don't allow consecutive sentences if the crimes happened in a single transaction. I'm sure the judge maxed this guy out. I mean he was begging her to do it.

I was guessing all that might (or might not) be involved.

Maybe I'm just picky, but I would like to see a news story include details which, I at least think, are important.
Title: Re: Ohio School Shooter Sentencing
Post by: PegLeg45 on March 20, 2013, 04:23:53 PM
http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/03/19/17370830-ohio-school-shooter-wearing-killer-t-shirt-sentenced-to-life-in-prison?lite

http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2013/03/ohio_school_shooter_delivers_v.html

http://www.cnn.com/2013/03/19/us/ohio-school-shooting/?hpt=hp_t3

http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/03/19/us-usa-shooting-ohio-idUSBRE92I0AQ20130319
Title: Re: Ohio School Shooter Sentencing
Post by: fatbaldguy on March 20, 2013, 05:25:52 PM
The news I've heard is NO possibility of parole.  I've also read the words that are attributed to him when he had his little outburst.

"The hand that killed, masturbates to the memory of it."  Or something very close to that.  If true, I would have pinched his head off his neck and shat down his windpipe.
Title: Re: Ohio School Shooter Sentencing
Post by: tombogan03884 on March 20, 2013, 05:35:55 PM
I really hope Bubba and his buddies take turns having their way with this little punk once he gets to the big house.  It still won't be justice for the families, but it will be something.

If I was the prison guard there, I may just overlook the shiv I saw his cellmate tuck into his waistband. 

Some of the comments posted here show you are no better than he is except that he at least did his own killing instead of leaving it to another inmate, and I REALLY wonder about a person who fantasizes about another suffering prison rape.

Life for life with out the fancy touches, a bullet and a hole in the ground.
Title: Re: Ohio School Shooter Sentencing
Post by: fatbaldguy on March 20, 2013, 05:40:13 PM


Life for life with out the fancy touches, a bullet rope a tree and a hole in the ground.


FIFY
Title: Re: Ohio School Shooter Sentencing
Post by: fightingquaker13 on March 20, 2013, 06:13:48 PM
Some of the comments posted here show you are no better than he is except that he at least did his own killing instead of leaving it to another inmate, and I REALLY wonder about a person who fantasizes about another suffering prison rape.

Life for life with out the fancy touches, a bullet and a hole in the ground.

Is the new sensitive Tom Bogan? You want to kill little kids? You get thrown in with your own kind and bad luck to you. Think of it as "Escape from New York" only without the escape part. Its justice. I think he made his choice (twice in this case).
Title: Re: Ohio School Shooter Sentencing
Post by: tombogan03884 on March 20, 2013, 07:10:47 PM
Is the new sensitive Tom Bogan? You want to kill little kids? You get thrown in with your own kind and bad luck to you. Think of it as "Escape from New York" only without the escape part. Its justice. I think he made his choice (twice in this case).

Justice would be bringing his victims back to life.
Ain't gonna happen.
The alternative is preventing him from ever killing any one else, (including other inmates) at the lowest possible cost to the tax payer.
Title: Re: Ohio School Shooter Sentencing
Post by: JdePietro on March 22, 2013, 10:49:22 AM
Tom said what I wanted to. Wishing ill on even the most sadistic of our kind makes us no better. I don't think tax payers should have to carry the burden of his sustenance but I don't see a more fitting punishment then for him to wait out his life in a cage.  :'(
Title: Re: Ohio School Shooter Sentencing
Post by: Solus on March 22, 2013, 12:31:36 PM
Like rabid dogs.

We don't blame them.  

We don't hate them.  

We don't try to get revenge or punish them.

We just put them down.


And, actually, I think a rabid dog has more chance of 'rehabilitation' than this kid.

How can he ever acquire the social/emotional/philosophical/whatever outlook and beliefs needed to be a positive human being without driving himself over the edge again with the realization of what he was, what he did, and how he gloated over the pain he caused people.

And, as always, I am saddened.  Not by his death/lost life behind bars, but because it was necessary again.
Title: Re: Ohio School Shooter Sentencing
Post by: fightingquaker13 on March 22, 2013, 03:08:17 PM
More importantly, are you willing t trust your life to the fact that he has? If there was a magic injection you could give to these people to "fix"them, I'd be all for it. Not a day in jail, just a shot of asshole-be-gone and we're done. But there's not. So off to jail he goes, and no, I don't care what happens to a guy who stands up in front of the victims families with "killer" scrawled on his shirt.
Title: Re: Ohio School Shooter Sentencing
Post by: PegLeg45 on March 22, 2013, 04:36:01 PM
More importantly, are you willing t trust your life to the fact that he has? If there was a magic injection you could give to these people to "fix"them, I'd be all for it. Not a day in jail, just a shot of asshole-be-gone and we're done. But there's not. So off to jail he goes, and no, I don't care what happens to a guy who stands up in front of the victims families with "killer" scrawled on his shirt.

There is..... but ammo is too high to waste on scum like this...... morphine is cheap... and will get the job done.

An eye for an eye, IMHO, FWIW.
Title: Re: Ohio School Shooter Sentencing
Post by: JC5123 on March 22, 2013, 04:40:59 PM
An eye for an eye, IMHO, FWIW.

Most people don't realize that "An eye for an eye." is actually a call for fairness. In the time of the Bible it was common to take a life for an eye, but the Bible said no, only an eye for an eye. This is a big reason why I have no issue with capital punishment for capital crimes. If you commit murder, than your life is forfeit.
Title: Re: Ohio School Shooter Sentencing
Post by: Solus on March 22, 2013, 05:25:10 PM
Only problem I have with capital punishment is that you can't take it back if a mistake is made....and in recent years way to many mistakes have been uncovered with improved DNA testing and other means.