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Title: People on Facebook are stupid!
Post by: MikeBjerum on March 21, 2013, 02:55:46 PM
Average people go on Facebook and get stupid!  Stupid people go on Facebook and remain stupid!

Today the big thing is to pass around a photo of Clint Eastwood and his supposed stance on gun control:  ... If there is a gun in the room I want control of it.  Just like Clinton, Brady, Feinstein, Franken, Pelosi, et al.

Clint votes republican, but is anti-Second Amendment.  He supports waiting periods, he supports the Brady Bill, he supported the Clinton ban, and he doesn't understand why anyone would need an "assault weapon."  These quotes come from as recent as last year.

He is no different that the rest of our Hollywood nannies who make their millions sensationalizing violence, scaring the sheep, and then promoting unconstitutional legislation.
Title: Re: People on Facebook are stupid!
Post by: fightingquaker13 on March 21, 2013, 03:02:25 PM
Sorry to hear that. I can only think of about three Clint movies where he didn't shoot somebody or threaten to do so, and one of them involved him co-starring with a monkey. I would think he would at least recognize the hypocisy in this. Oh well, it all comes out I suppose.
Title: Re: People on Facebook are stupid!
Post by: JC5123 on March 21, 2013, 03:36:16 PM
Average people go on Facebook and get stupid!  Stupid people go on Facebook and remain stupid!

Today the big thing is to pass around a photo of Clint Eastwood and his supposed stance on gun control:  ... If there is a gun in the room I want control of it.  Just like Clinton, Brady, Feinstein, Franken, Pelosi, et al.

Clint votes republican, but is anti-Second Amendment.  He supports waiting periods, he supports the Brady Bill, he supported the Clinton ban, and he doesn't understand why anyone would need an "assault weapon."  These quotes come from as recent as last year.

He is no different that the rest of our Hollywood nannies who make their millions sensationalizing violence, scaring the sheep, and then promoting unconstitutional legislation.

DAMMIT MAN! He's an actor, what do you expect?
Title: Re: People on Facebook are stupid!
Post by: Ulmus on March 21, 2013, 03:50:02 PM
+1.
Title: Re: People on Facebook are stupid!
Post by: MikeBjerum on March 21, 2013, 03:51:36 PM
DAMMIT MAN! He's an actor, what do you expect?

Yup!  Now join me in pointing that out to the idiots who are supposedly a part of the gun culture but are posting him as a hero.
Title: Re: People on Facebook are stupid!
Post by: fightingquaker13 on March 21, 2013, 04:29:35 PM
Quote from: JC5123 link=topic=22314.m >:(g275565#msg275565 date=1363898176
DAMMIT MAN! He's an actor, what do you expect?
A little intergrity? Hell he sold more .44 mags than BO has ARs. Lets at least recogonize that what we do everyday has consequences. I got that message early on as a teacher, and every cop and soldier gets it from day one of basic training. Why is it so freaking hard for Clint to get it? If he's anti-gun, make some romantic comedy chic flic, no harm in that. I mean, the guy who starred in McGyver is an anti-gunner, so he made sure the heros never used guns. I disagree, but I respect his integrity. But Clint, don't make "The Unforgiven" as your swan song and then come for my gun. Fuzz you (and no, you have not made my day). :(
Title: Re: People on Facebook are stupid!
Post by: JC5123 on March 21, 2013, 04:48:28 PM
I mean, the guy who starred in McGyver is an anti-gunner, so he made sure the heros never used guns. I disagree, but I respect his integrity.

And you are WRONG! Richard Dean Anderson also starred in Stargate SG-1 for what 10 seasons. He played and Air Force Colonel who had NO problem using guns.
Title: Re: People on Facebook are stupid!
Post by: fightingquaker13 on March 21, 2013, 04:55:32 PM
Is a P-90 really a gun? It looks more like something Mattel churned out. ;D Besides, he wasn't in control of that show. He was on McGyver and it was no guns. (and I can't belive I'm defending the guy) But "The Unforgiven" was Clint's baby, starred , produced and directed. He wasn't taking anyone else's orders or working for a paycheck. It was his baby and a great flick. But don't make something like that and then tell me I don't need a handgun.
Title: Re: People on Facebook are stupid!
Post by: JC5123 on March 21, 2013, 05:09:58 PM
You are trying to have it both ways again. If he had TRUE integrity, he would turn down any role in which his character wielded a gun.
 
Title: Re: People on Facebook are stupid!
Post by: fightingquaker13 on March 21, 2013, 05:30:31 PM
You are trying to have it both ways again. If he had TRUE integrity, he would turn down any role in which his character wielded a gun.
 
Lets just agree that we both disagree with these guy's poslitics and that their positions on guns suck. I'm not going to get into an argument defending a guy I think is an A-hole. The point is that if you are a millionare from wielding guns on screen, either respect the 2A or STFU. Your call. But I swear, the next "Action hero" that comes our against guns is going to get my boot up his ass, I don't care how many steroids he's on.
Title: Re: People on Facebook are stupid!
Post by: JC5123 on March 21, 2013, 05:56:24 PM
But I swear, the next "Action hero" that comes our against guns is going to get my boot up his ass, I don't care how many steroids he's on.


MB, I think we just found your season opener for Shooting Gallery!!!!
Title: Re: People on Facebook are stupid!
Post by: Jrlobo on March 21, 2013, 05:58:27 PM
What does any of this have to do with Facebook? People are either stupid or not. Intelligent people don't change their minds from being on Facebook. Stupid people and sheeple do. As for Clint, he is just an actor and a director, but always entertaining. Actors and directors are entitled to their opinions that differ in real life from the fictional lives they depict on screen. Many of us are entertained when we shoot our guns; actors entertain when they shoot theirs on screen. Why in hell are we even discussing this? WGAS?
Title: Re: People on Facebook are stupid!
Post by: fightingquaker13 on March 21, 2013, 06:03:28 PM

MB, I think we just found your season opener for Shooting Gallery!!!!
It would last five minutes. Quaker boots steroided up actor. Said actor kicks Quakers ass. Quaker fires from the ground. Finis. ;D
Title: Re: People on Facebook are stupid!
Post by: Jrlobo on March 21, 2013, 06:07:21 PM
FQ,

      Your characterization of the P-90 as looking like a Mattel toy appears analogous to those that characterize the AR-15 as looking like an assault rifle. Neither characterization, no matter how appropriate, makes it so. We must be bored to tears!
Title: Re: People on Facebook are stupid!
Post by: fightingquaker13 on March 21, 2013, 08:56:13 PM
FQ,

      Your characterization of the P-90 as looking like a Mattel toy appears analogous to those that characterize the AR-15 as looking like an assault rifle. Neither characterization, no matter how appropriate, makes it so. We must be bored to tears!
Oh c'mon, if you were the prop guy on a cheesy sci-fy show, what gun would you grab? Its either the P-90 or the Streyer AUG.  Personally I'd prefer the Steyer, either way, you get the "Star Wars " vibe. ;D
Title: Re: People on Facebook are stupid!
Post by: MikeBjerum on March 21, 2013, 09:34:23 PM
Jrlobo,

The reason I started this with minimal introduction is that I thought a few of us would be smart enough to figure it out.

We have people who are taking Clint Eastwood's fake side, combining it with  a money making statement he made, and tagging him as a friend of our Second Amendment and friend of us.  People trust everything they read on the internet without questions.  Like they say in the Geico commercial "If it's on the internet it has to be true."

Be careful who you trust and who you believe.  And before you spread a post around, make sure it says what you want to believe it says.
Title: Re: People on Facebook are stupid!
Post by: fightingquaker13 on March 21, 2013, 09:51:21 PM
Bon Jour. ;D

PS its All State, from our "first black President" (Think 24).

PPS. I usually don't quote wiki, but here is Clint on guns

Despite being heavily associated with firearms in his Westerns and cop movies, Eastwood has publicly endorsed gun control since at least 1973. In the April 24, 1973, edition of the Washington Post, the star stated that "I'm for gun legislation myself. I don't hunt."[302] Two years later, in 1975, Eastwood told People magazine that he favors "gun control to some degree".[303] About a year later, Eastwood remarked that "All guns should be registered. I don't think legitimate gun owners would mind that kind of legislation. Right now the furor against a gun law is by gun owners who are overreacting. They're worried that all guns are going to be recalled. It's impossible to take guns out of circulation, and that's why firearms should be registered and mail-order delivery of guns halted."[304] In 1993, he noted that "I was always a backer" of the Brady Bill, with its federally mandated waiting period.[305] In 1995, Eastwood questioned the purpose of assault weapons. Larry King, the famous television host and newspaper columnist, wrote in the May 22, 1995, edition of USA Today that "My interview with Eastwood will air on 'Larry King Weekend' ... I asked him his thoughts on the NRA and gun control and he said that while people think of him as pro-gun, he has always been in favor of controls. 'Why would anyone need or want an assault weapon?' he said."[306]
Title: Re: People on Facebook are stupid!
Post by: darkpassenger on March 23, 2013, 02:15:18 PM
Yup!  Now join me in pointing that out to the idiots who are supposedly a part of the gun culture but are posting him as a hero.



This is nothing new.  People post pics of John Wayne epitomizing patriotism & courage, when in fact he sought and obtained 3A status draft deferment in WWII.

Bigger, established stars such as Clark Gable and Jimmy Stewart volunteered; both flying combat missions (bombers) over Europe in WWII.

Stewart is credited with 20 missions over Germany and taking part in hundreds of air strikes during his tour of duty. He earned the Air Medal, the Distinguished Flying Cross, France's Croix de Guerre, and 7 Battle Stars.

But for some reason, The Duke gets the aura.

Title: Re: People on Facebook are stupid!
Post by: Jrlobo on March 23, 2013, 05:05:49 PM
m58,

      I can't believe any of us gives a damn what actors do on screen vs what they say and do in real life. Integrity has nothing to do with it. It's nothing but a living to them. On screen they live a make-believe life. Actors get into trouble when they confuse that make-believe life with reality...like Superman did. And that's why I said, and say, WGAS!

FQ,

      Neither. I'm a SCAR man. But if I had to choose, it would be the P-90. Yup I've got FNH in the blood.

Title: Re: People on Facebook are stupid!
Post by: fightingquaker13 on March 23, 2013, 05:56:50 PM


This is nothing new.  People post pics of John Wayne epitomizing patriotism & courage, when in fact he sought and obtained 3A status draft deferment in WWII.

Bigger, established stars such as Clark Gable and Jimmy Stewart volunteered; both flying combat missions (bombers) over Europe in WWII.

Stewart is credited with 20 missions over Germany and taking part in hundreds of air strikes during his tour of duty. He earned the Air Medal, the Distinguished Flying Cross, France's Croix de Guerre, and 7 Battle Stars.

But for some reason, The Duke gets the aura.



+100! I've always   been a Jimmy Stewart man. He was the real deal, and worth ten of most of us, me included. The guy was a patriot who privately financed an Army Air corps, later UASAF training facility and served in the reserves to the point of becoming a general, and even flew a combat mission over Cambodia during Vietnam, and not for publicity either. It was hushed up. That guy really was the "quiet American".