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Title: Magazine Capacity Restrictions Apparently Wouldn't Have Helped At Newtown
Post by: tt11758 on March 28, 2013, 11:50:58 AM
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_CONNECTICUT_SCHOOL_SHOOTING?SITE=LABAT&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT (http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_CONNECTICUT_SCHOOL_SHOOTING?SITE=LABAT&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT)

Read the entire article at the above link.  Below is an interesting portion of the article.

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Lanza had another loaded handgun with him inside the school as well as three, 30-round magazines for the Bushmaster.

Sedensky said 154 spent .223 casings were recovered at the scene.

Hmmmmmmmmmmm.........He had three 30-round magazines for the Bushmaster, yet there were 154 spent .223 casings.  By my math, that means he had to reload two of his magazines.  Wasn't the hi-cap ban argument that the time it took to reload would provide time for somebody to take the bad guy down?

I'm sure we'll see this correlation in the lamestream media momentarily.

Title: Re: Magazine Capacity Restrictions Apparently Wouldn't Have Helped At Newtown
Post by: Swamp Yankee on March 28, 2013, 12:27:21 PM
No mention of stripper clips or speed loaders, this story is so full of holes not mention of the other two pistols also!
Mike Mc
Title: Re: Magazine Capacity Restrictions Apparently Wouldn't Have Helped At Newtown
Post by: Solus on March 28, 2013, 12:35:23 PM
Last I read a week or two ago, it was "admitted" that he did not have the Bushmaster with him in the school.

Like everything else in this aftermath, I have no idea how accurate that statement...or any statement made previously....   is.

Here is a link to the video report.

http://www.today.com/video/today/50208495#50208495
Title: Re: Magazine Capacity Restrictions Apparently Wouldn't Have Helped At Newtown
Post by: jnevis on March 28, 2013, 12:59:30 PM
Last I read a week or two ago, it was "admitted" that he did not have the Bushmaster with him in the school.

Like everything else in this aftermath, I have no idea how accurate that statement...or any statement made previously....   is.

Here is a link to the video report.

http://www.today.com/video/today/50208495#50208495

That seems to get reported every few weeks by one "news" outlet or another, then looking at it deeper its a re-hash of the report from a couple days after the incident that the medical examiner and sheriff refuted about a week later.
Title: Re: Magazine Capacity Restrictions Apparently Wouldn't Have Helped At Newtown
Post by: blackwolfe on March 28, 2013, 01:41:19 PM
Somewhere along this journey I heard that there were dropped magazines that were not completely emptied.  sorry that i can't find the source again.  Did anyone else hear anything about this?
Title: Re: Magazine Capacity Restrictions Apparently Wouldn't Have Helped At Newtown
Post by: Solus on March 28, 2013, 01:48:20 PM
Who knows what is true.

10 minutes after my post above, I read that the lock time for the warrants from the incident has run out and that they have been released.

The report said a Bushmaster was used to kill the teachers and students.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/mar/28/miller-finally-some-answers-about-sandy-hook-schoo/?1

I wonder if we can trust documents that have been locked away for over 3 months to tell the truth or what someone wants the truth to be?
Title: Re: Magazine Capacity Restrictions Apparently Wouldn't Have Helped At Newtown
Post by: twyacht on March 28, 2013, 06:31:09 PM
Just like Benghazi.....More questions than answers. With a complicit and lying Admin.

Title: Re: Magazine Capacity Restrictions Apparently Wouldn't Have Helped At Newtown
Post by: TAB on March 28, 2013, 07:28:47 PM
All anyone knows is the guy was nuts.  He could have killed more with a bomb or chemical/ bio attack.   all of which are pretty damn easy to do and you can find the info to do it online.   
Title: Re: Magazine Capacity Restrictions Apparently Wouldn't Have Helped At Newtown
Post by: alfsauve on March 29, 2013, 07:53:59 AM
The judge put a 90 gag-order on the search warrants and their results.

That gag-order just expired this week and this is the FIRST TIME, we are able to get the facts.

Most any "reporting" prior to this week was speculative.  There were a lot of things "made up" about this incident.  Ignore all those "reports" that were generated by news hungry media prior to this week.  You can read the warrants and results for yourself.

One source:  http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2013/03/29/nyregion/29lanza-warrants.html (http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2013/03/29/nyregion/29lanza-warrants.html)
Title: Re: Magazine Capacity Restrictions Apparently Wouldn't Have Helped At Newtown
Post by: Solus on March 29, 2013, 09:07:47 AM
The judge put a 90 gag-order on the search warrants and their results.

That gag-order just expired this week and this is the FIRST TIME, we are able to get the facts.

Most any "reporting" prior to this week was speculative.  There were a lot of things "made up" about this incident.  Ignore all those "reports" that were generated by news hungry media prior to this week.  You can read the warrants and results for yourself.

One source:  http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2013/03/29/nyregion/29lanza-warrants.html (http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2013/03/29/nyregion/29lanza-warrants.html)

Big question is why?  A 90 day extension of the time the warrants and the findings of the warrants are sealed.

This is the FIRST TIME we are able to get what is released as facts.

Might just be my affinity to aluminum, but that sure seems like it is allowing plenty of time to see what cell phone videos and any other incidentals might pop up so that they don't look like lying SOBs if the evidence contradicts what they state happened.

Is this type of extension granted routinely all the time?

I am always suspicious when documents are hidden away until the "Official" version is released....although 90 days doesn't come close to the 200 year record for sealing documents.
Title: Re: Magazine Capacity Restrictions Apparently Wouldn't Have Helped At Newtown
Post by: alfsauve on March 29, 2013, 05:08:15 PM
Big question is why?  A 90 day extension of the time the warrants and the findings of the warrants are sealed.

A very good question.  One I asked and one some of the media asked.  There wasn't a good answer.  It's not normal.  Usually, I read, it's anywhere from 24 to 168 hours, to give LEOs time to follow up leads and arrest accomplices.  It was fairly obvious, from the beginning this was a lone wolf, not part of some larger conspiracy or terrorist act.  There will never be a trial.

Also strange was, even though the school was an obvious crime scene and it's beyond me why anyone would need  a search warrant for the school, they got one.  Was it to shield the evidence?  Otherwise all findings would have been available within a week.

Let's take a look from a different angle.   What if LEOs and prosecutors got the 90 day gag-order because they believed something was going on beyond the obvious?   Did they believe some conspiracy theory?  Maybe they thought some VIP was involved somehow?


Title: Re: Magazine Capacity Restrictions Apparently Wouldn't Have Helped At Newtown
Post by: TAB on March 29, 2013, 08:35:03 PM
I am sure the search ewarrenty was a cya move.