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Title: Well CT, get ready to register your MAGAZINES!
Post by: RTFM on April 02, 2013, 07:06:10 AM

http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/04/01/17557867-connecticut-lawmakers-reach-deal-on-most-comprehensive-gun-limits-in-us?lite


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In what was being described as a first in the U.S., gun owners would have to register current magazines accommodating more than 10 rounds with the state by January, The New Haven Register reported.p

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.....and would expand the Board of Firearms Permit Examiners to include a mental health professional and a retired judge.

House Speaker Brendan Sharkey, a Democrat representing Hamden, told reporters the measure was meant to send a message to Washington that "this is the way to get this job done."



So, more good people who follow the law are about to get screwed - AGAIN.
Title: Re: Well CT, get ready to register your MAGAZINES!
Post by: crusader rabbit on April 02, 2013, 07:42:59 AM
How would anyone even identify a registered magazine?

None of mine have numbers.  Some aren't even stamped with the manufacturer's name.

The stupidity of our ruling class baffles this poor Rabbit.

CR
Title: Re: Well CT, get ready to register your MAGAZINES!
Post by: billt on April 02, 2013, 08:21:10 AM
How would anyone even identify a registered magazine? None of mine have numbers.  Some aren't even stamped with the manufacturer's name. The stupidity of our ruling class baffles this poor Rabbit.     CR

This lunacy ranks right up there with these idiots who wanted to serialize ammunition.
Title: Re: Well CT, get ready to register your MAGAZINES!
Post by: RTFM on April 02, 2013, 08:22:47 AM
....if you can not recognize a non-serialized magazine, then the NEXT logical step is to turn them in.
It is all there, just not yet out in the open.
Title: Re: Well CT, get ready to register your MAGAZINES!
Post by: Magoo541 on April 02, 2013, 09:18:54 AM
The only logical outcome of registration is confiscation.  Happened in CA, NY and Nazi Germany (they just registered all the Jews).  It may not be the desired outcome of the current legislators, which I question, but it sets the ground work for future abuses and must be treated as an assault on our civil liberties.

FWIW I have dealt with the anit-gun zealots in CT, I weep for my country if this is the lead they follow.  Grassroots at the state and local levels is where the fight is and our enemy has the high ground.
Title: Re: Well CT, get ready to register your MAGAZINES!
Post by: Jrlobo on April 02, 2013, 11:33:56 AM
Don't worry if your mags have no serialization. The state will put a unremoveable sticker on it, probably day-glow orange or chartreuse in color and charge you some minimal amount to cover the cost of the sticker, say $10 per mag. If you are caught with a qualifying unregistered mag after 1 Jan, then they'll take the mag, the rifle it fits and your first born son.
Title: Re: Well CT, get ready to register your MAGAZINES!
Post by: RTFM on April 02, 2013, 12:27:31 PM
Letter to the editor of Hartford Currant.

(http://www.guns.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/letter.jpg)
Title: Re: Well CT, get ready to register your MAGAZINES!
Post by: bluesman001 on April 02, 2013, 02:29:40 PM
Boom goes the dynamite!!!  Well said!!   ;D
Title: Re: Well CT, get ready to register your MAGAZINES!
Post by: Swamp Yankee on April 02, 2013, 03:14:15 PM
I left CT in 2003 and have not looked back since. Lets see what happens with the firearms industry in the state. Colt, Stag Arms, Mossberg & Sons, and not to mention hundreds of smaller businesses with ties to the industry. Watch the exodus begin.

Mike Mc
Title: Re: Well CT, get ready to register your MAGAZINES!
Post by: twyacht on April 02, 2013, 04:57:22 PM
The "Eligibility Certificate" to purchase ammo should work out. How about those that re-load?

5. The bill requires new state issued eligibility certificates for the purchase of any rifle, shotgun or ammunition.


Long guns: The bill establishes a new revocable state-issued “long gun eligibility certificate”, which will require the applicant to undergo a firearms safety training course, be fingerprinted, and undergo a national criminal background and involuntary commitment /voluntary admission check. Under the bill, as of April 1, 2014, such long gun eligibility certificate will be required to be presented for the purchase of any rifle or shotgun (in addition to the aforementioned now-“universal” criminal background check).

Ammunition: The bill establishes a new revocable state issued “ammunition eligibility certificate”, which will require the applicant to pass a national criminal background check. The bill requires, as of October 1, 2013, that any sale of ammunition or an ammunition magazine to a Connecticut resident be accompanied by the presentation of either a permit to carry a pistol or revolver, an eligibility certificate for a pistol or revolver, a long gun eligibility certificate, a firearms dealer permit, or a combination of an ammunition eligibility certificate and a state issued photo ID.  Therefore , as of October 1, 2013 there will be no legal sales of ammunition or magazines to any Connecticut resident who has not passed a national criminal background check, and is in good standing with regard to such check (i.e. their state issued certificate has not been revoked).


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http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2013/04/robert-farago/breaking-connecticut-gun-ban-bills-revealed/#gsc.tab=0

Should work out well...
Title: Re: Well CT, get ready to register your MAGAZINES!
Post by: RTFM on April 02, 2013, 06:05:10 PM
Then you know they will make it ammo for semi-auto pistol or revolver? Semi or bolt or pump rifle?
The if you are "caught" with a .45 ACP 1911, but only had a purchase order for a .45 ACP revolver.... ohhh noooo

Same for a .357 revolver but have a .357 lever action..... Right off we go to see the man.

Aaaaaaand theeeeennnnnn - please present your insurance card and rider for this purchase along with your certificate to purchase ammo, and what type of gun will that be for sir?
Oh I'm dreadfully sorry, Sir, you've reached your (weekly/monthly/yearly) allotment of ammunition, I'm so very sorry. But if you'd like to present us with fired ammunition spent casing - we could submit a request for waiver to allotment to your local state police representative for further consideration.

Thank you and F off!

 
Title: Re: Well CT, get ready to register your MAGAZINES!
Post by: tombogan03884 on April 02, 2013, 06:47:15 PM
I've been saying right along,
Use 'em or lose 'em.
Title: Re: Well CT, get ready to register your MAGAZINES!
Post by: Solus on April 02, 2013, 07:46:18 PM
The "Eligibility Certificate" to purchase ammo should work out. How about those that re-load?

5. The bill requires new state issued eligibility certificates for the purchase of any rifle, shotgun or ammunition.


Long guns: The bill establishes a new revocable state-issued “long gun eligibility certificate”, which will require the applicant to undergo a firearms safety training course, be fingerprinted, and undergo a national criminal background and involuntary commitment /voluntary admission check. Under the bill, as of April 1, 2014, such long gun eligibility certificate will be required to be presented for the purchase of any rifle or shotgun (in addition to the aforementioned now-“universal” criminal background check).

Ammunition: The bill establishes a new revocable state issued “ammunition eligibility certificate”, which will require the applicant to pass a national criminal background check. The bill requires, as of October 1, 2013, that any sale of ammunition or an ammunition magazine to a Connecticut resident be accompanied by the presentation of either a permit to carry a pistol or revolver, an eligibility certificate for a pistol or revolver, a long gun eligibility certificate, a firearms dealer permit, or a combination of an ammunition eligibility certificate and a state issued photo ID.  Therefore , as of October 1, 2013 there will be no legal sales of ammunition or magazines to any Connecticut resident who has not passed a national criminal background check, and is in good standing with regard to such check (i.e. their state issued certificate has not been revoked).


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http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2013/04/robert-farago/breaking-connecticut-gun-ban-bills-revealed/#gsc.tab=0

Should work out well...

Well, I'd say this will lead to a sharp increase in ammunition thefts.  As with any restricted goods, criminals will see it as another item to put on their "shopping list".
Title: Re: Well CT, get ready to register your MAGAZINES!
Post by: TAB on April 02, 2013, 07:52:36 PM
or they can just drive across the state line.   ct is not a large state.
Title: Re: Well CT, get ready to register your MAGAZINES!
Post by: blackwolfe on April 02, 2013, 10:46:51 PM
If I'm not mistaken in Illinois you need a FOID (Firearms Owner Identification Card?) card to buy ammo.  Not sure what the law says, but as my community in Michigan has a lot of FIPs (friendly Illinois People).  I know that there are places that check ID to see if you are not from Illinois.  I'm not sure how one state could prohibit sellers in another state from selling to their citizens while in that state.
Title: Re: Well CT, get ready to register your MAGAZINES!
Post by: billt on April 03, 2013, 09:27:06 AM
If I'm not mistaken in Illinois you need a FOID (Firearms Owner Identification Card?) card to buy ammo.

When I lived in Illinois in the early 70's, you not only needed a FOID card to buy ammo, but they wrote your name and address into a "bound book". That went away with the "Paperwork Reduction Act", or some such a few years later. My guess is they will reinstate it.
Title: Re: Well CT, get ready to register your MAGAZINES!
Post by: Solus on April 03, 2013, 10:07:07 AM
or they can just drive across the state line.   ct is not a large state.

Ahhh...a nice opportunity for a side business.  How much risk would be involved in this enterprise would depend upon how the law is written.
Title: Re: Well CT, get ready to register your MAGAZINES!
Post by: billt on April 03, 2013, 11:24:05 AM
or they can just drive across the state line.   ct is not a large state.

The last time I went to the Crossroads Gun Show here in Phoenix, I swear half the plates on the cars in the lot were from California.