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Member Section => Down Range Cafe => Topic started by: fightingquaker13 on April 05, 2013, 08:43:17 AM
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This one's for TAB. If you ever wondered why you should hire a good contractor rather than DIY, here's your answer. Its a tool shed, sorta. ;D
http://www.bcsportbikes.com/forum/showthread.php/146566-Build-to-Fail-Fail-to-Build.-What-is-this-I-don-t-even
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I had "my carpenter" sub out a roofing job for me one time, mostly because he was getting too old and grouchy to deal with roofs of late. The guy he hired was such a peach.. The first thing he unpacked, EACH DAY, was an excuse..
He kept a moderately mentally disabled guy as his helper, which is fine with me, but he talked to this guy, I wouldn't even talk to TOM!!! ::)
I couldn't stand his sorry ass.. The work was acceptable. He blew off "Ice & Water Shield" for about 14 sq ft at the top, but the pitch was too steep to worry about anyway, and the alternative was to buy another roll, that I wasn't gonna end up keeping without a days labor worth of argument (instead of work) and even more of a headache for my wife to endure my griping about..
Yeah, get a good all around carpenter, and pay him what he's worth..
I haven't seen one guys work here in Alabama that I would be interested in paying for. Not yet, anyway..
Shoddy as a way of life, I guess..
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I can come down and build a house for you :) you might not like the price. I wish I was smarter then my phone so I could post pics from it. I have some great pics of my work and others lol
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I've fabricated a lot of things in my lifetime.......using wood, aluminum, steel, etc....... and all I can muster here is DAMN!.
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I owned a house in Illinois, built in 1887. It was a balloon-framed stick house. I discovered when remodeling that the center wall of the house, directly over the main beam, with the fireplace/chimney in the center of the house facing the dining room. and a door between the dining room and the original kitchen. I found the first 3 studs between from the fireplace floated about 6" above the beam. Floated as in not attached to anything below it. It was built that way. In 1887. :o
When the lath and plaster came off, the upstairs sank about 3" before I aw the floating and could get a 4x4 in place as a temporary post. I ended up building a 4x4 out of 2x4's glued and screwed together, installing a sill plate on the wood beam, and replacing all 3 studs - with the sistered 4x4 by the old doorway farthest down the wall from the fireplace - after I jacked the wall back up! I then glued and screwed CDX to the whole wall on the dining room side, covering that with rock.
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I used to just LOVE working with my Dad on "remodeling" jobs.
Classic example , guy built his own house .
But he did it during WWII when lumber was rationed .
Our job was to put in the other half of the floor joists because he had put them in 32 inches on center instead of 16.
Also, he used Canadian lumber, which, in those days at least, wasn't planed quite as much as US lumber.
It measured about 1/8th inch bigger .
Another wonderful pass time the "Old man" came up with was putting peaked roofs on mobile homes.
Ever try to get something square and true when measuring from a marshmallow ?
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I used to just LOVE working with my Dad on "remodeling" jobs.
Classic example , guy built his own house .
But he did it during WWII when lumber was rationed .
Our job was to put in the other half of the floor joists because he had put them in 32 inches on center instead of 16.
Also, he used Canadian lumber, which, in those days at least, wasn't planed quite as much as US lumber.
It measured about 1/8th inch bigger .
Another wonderful pass time the "Old man" came up with was putting peaked roofs on mobile homes.
Ever try to get something square and true when measuring from a marshmallow ?
It keeps the tornadoes away. ;D
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Path 95% of my work was 100+ year old houses. I have seen that so many times its not even funny. The saying they don't build them like they use to, is a very good thing.
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Lol that looked like something my brother law would of done.
Tab. Get tapatalk . Very easy to upload photos from your phone
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It keeps the tornadoes away. ;D
Not many tornado's up here, but it is nice to have the snow slide off rather than piling up on a not very rugged , flat, roof.
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Speaking of roofs.
I learned something about them a few years ago.
I had noticed that roofs has very different slope angles from one building to another. I wondered if it had something to do with attic space, or was necessary for two wings of a building to join smoothly... Nothing I thought of seemed to fit the patterns I was observing.
Then I realized roofs farther north tended to be steeply pitched and the pitch tended to be less as you moved south and figured it was to prevent snow piling up in heavy snow areas....the less snow got the less pitch you needed.
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Speaking of roofs.
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Then I realized roofs farther north tended to be steeply pitched and the pitch tended to be less as you moved south and figured it was to prevent snow piling up in heavy snow areas....the less snow got the less pitch you needed.
That's essentially correct, which doesn't explain Wal-Mart.. Does Wal-Mart heat their roof or something?? How do you get away with that acres of flat roof thing in the north without collapsing??
(Nope, I'm not a carpenter..)
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They are built to hold a certain amount of weight, but with bigger storms they are shoveled off.
Flat roofs are actually fairly common on large stores , factories, and malls up here but they do need to be cleared.
Occasionally one falls in.
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FLat roofs are not very flat at all. I did a cabin not to long ago that had a very low pitched roof (3 12) up near tahoe. The roof was steal and had both passive and active heating systems. To keep the snow off. it was pretty cool, but the system would be $$$$$$ to replace if it fails. one of those clients that wanted something, and do to codes it ment doing something "out side of the box". Which is always fun, but can be a pita if the client is a bitch.
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That's essentially correct, which doesn't explain Wal-Mart.. Does Wal-Mart heat their roof or something?? How do you get away with that acres of flat roof thing in the north without collapsing??
(Nope, I'm not a carpenter..)
I arrived at work one morning here in North Dakota and found a truck lifting very large snowblowers (3 or 4 of them) to the flat roof of the building so the clean up crew could get to work removing the fluffy white stuff from the blizzard. There was something like 12-15" of it in that fall.