The Down Range Forum
Member Section => Politics & RKBA => Topic started by: mrmatt2you on April 14, 2013, 07:58:20 PM
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I have bought guns over the internet from gun broker. I hear on the media that they want to make sure the internet sales go thru background checks. But everytime I have bought one, I had to ship it to an FFL dealer. Am I mistaken that sales from gun broker or places like that, the guns have to be shipped to a FFL to have the paperwork done and background check??
The second part is gun shows and private sales. If you were to sell a gun to someone other than a dealer at a gun show, how would you handle it? In NC, you can use your concealed carry permit as your gun permit. So If I was to sell it to someone I did not know and they showed me that and a drivers license for picture ID, that would be good enough for me. If they had a gun permit and ID, I would take the gun permit for my records. Is that not correct? Or am I missing something that the media is saying about gun shows? I am guess people are just not checking permits or CC permits?
Would it be better for the gun shows to have a table where people who are selling person to person can go to and have paperwork filled out and just have a small fee charged that way they can stop saying people are buying guns illegally at gun shows? I am just sick of hearing about the gun shows sales and internet sales as being the huge problem we need to fix.
Has anyone ever seen any stats on guns bought at a gun show that have shown up at crimes or illegally purchased? I know they can trace the guns from Fast and Furious that have shown up in Mexico at crimes. Amazing how those figures are never talked about. Enough of my long winded questions.
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I think you can find the answer in here:
http://www.gunfacts.info/
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Firearm transfers initiated by non-FFL sellers are the ones being targeted by the various legislative proposals. They don't want people to be able to complete private transactions ANYWHERE they may occur - gun show parking lots, backyards, your neighbor's kitchen, the duck blind, etc. They want all transfers approved, recorded, and tracked by the government.
The arguments begin when you start trying to workout the details - the who, what, where, when, and how - of actually accomplishing this 'Universal Background Check' program. And, of course, there are many who feel that government involvement in any aspect of a firearm transfer is unconstitutional.
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A face to face deal between 2 non-FFLs isn't covered by anything in my state, other states differ.
Whether it be from the newspaper, gunbroker, gunsamerica, gun show or Craigslist, I give you money, you give me gun.
Wave goodbye.
The currently debated BS wants to stick the .govs nose into ALL of it.
How that will play out and what is exempt from "UBC" is still not known.
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Think Ca. where every transfer has to go through a dealer ( $30+ to give your son your father's shotgun ) )
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Intra family does not, but you still need to fill out the forms and mail it to the ca doj. has to be close family.
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Intra family does not, but you still need to fill out the forms and mail it to the ca doj. has to be close family.
Well, isn't that white of them.
Here in America the only outsider who might get involved is the teller when I take the money out of my account.
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you still have to pay a fee, ( I want to say $3 or 4) but its less then the $21 DROS.