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Member Section => Tactical Rifle & Carbine => Topic started by: TAB on April 16, 2013, 12:21:05 PM
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so I am going to build up one of my cmmg lowers, any recomendations on lower parts kits? I am bored lol.
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http://palmettostatearmory.com/index.php/ar-15-05/lower-parts/build-kits.html (http://palmettostatearmory.com/index.php/ar-15-05/lower-parts/build-kits.html)
finished my first build a couple weeks ago with the basic LPK. PSA has been in and out of stock intermittently the last couple of months.
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so I am going to build up one of my cmmg lowers, any recomendations on lower parts kits? I am bored lol.
Damn TAB, you are a lucky man! Hot wife, great job, a new home in a free state. Now you ask about lowers on exactly the right day. How about a complete RRA lower with a two stage national match trigger and an ARFX stock for $450 shipped? PM me for details.
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Tab, at this stage of the game you might not have a choice!!!!!!
Richard
FQ, he needs a lower parts KIT!
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Fq I have strip lowers I bought years ago as a just in case deal.
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When I built my POF lower, I went Bushmaster lower parts kit,...yes they all work, FWIW, the single stage trigger is damn crisp. for only a couple bucks more than a standard lower parts kit.
Please consider a free float barrel and not the Delta Ring,....so many more options depending on your application.
(http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm182/twyacht/FaceliftForFrank002.jpg) (http://s296.photobucket.com/user/twyacht/media/FaceliftForFrank002.jpg.html)
(http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm182/twyacht/ARBuild005.jpg) (http://s296.photobucket.com/user/twyacht/media/ARBuild005.jpg.html)
The wonderful part of a build is being a brand whore....Miculek or Titan Comp. rails, Bravo Company BCG, Larue Tactical Firing Pin, Get the M4 feed ramps, Mil-Spec not Commercial, choose your barrel, (I went Colt HBAR Heavy), Unless your making an AR for anything other than it was designed for, it is the Barbie for guys....
If it's just a beater, get the DPMS Lower kit, choose an upper, (I prefer a flat-top) and roll.....Easy enough to make it happen.
OBTW, When are you leaving Kalifornia?
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I think Palmetto State Armory has some in stock and they've got a pretty good rep at reasonable prices. But I've never shot any of their stuff.
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(http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i204/Redneck2_2006/IMG_20130329_184753_773.jpg)
The PSA lower appears comparable to all of the lowers I have drooled/fondled at the gun shows. The finish isn't quite as nice as my BCM but it will do the job no problem. The lower parts kit has no visible difference to any of the components of the BCM. Other than having faith in the advertisers claims I don't think you can tell a difference. The basic six position mil-spec carbine stock is marked with palmetto label just an fyi for the purists.
Function is no problem, and PSA is showing a preview of their torture test on their Youtube feed.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B8teWlhw6Yc&feature=youtube_gdata_player (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B8teWlhw6Yc&feature=youtube_gdata_player)
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i am actually thinking about doing something kind of nuts with it like chambering it for a real odd ball. I am kind? Of thinking about something like 9x25 dillon. you know something that I can be assured I am the only guy crazy enough to have one. I thought about the 17 rem, but I already have a load worked up for my bolt gun and don't want to sort the brass.
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ok doing some googling... Look like I already started a thread that ended up with a 9x25 dillon ar lol I knew I got the idea somewhere.
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You need to keep in mind the possibility of feeding issues with standard magazines if you to to odd ball.
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You need to keep in mind the possibility of feeding issues with standard magazines if you to to odd ball.
TAB's typing skills must be contagious Tom... ;)
Good luck with the odd ball TAB,...mags, and bolts maybe a pricey addition, but if it's where you want to go,....may I humbly consider .50 Beowulf, or .458 SOCOM? Ammo prices are bad enough...
or just get the 9mm conversion for cost.....which also NOW sucks.
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if I keep it something based off the 222( yes 222 not 223. 222 Is the parent of 223) or a standard hand gun cal. none of that should be a prob. might need a custom barrel or have on reemed out. no big deal.
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You may need to mess with springs to adjust for more or less recoil .
Maybe even adjust the gas port.
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I would think just springs would be enough. Depends on how crazy it goes. you might need to mess with the gas port, but I would think you can control when the gun unlocks with just springs.
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Depending on the power difference in the cartridge you may need either earlier or later ejection.
That is based on when the casing retracts from the chamber wall, and it would require larger, or smaller gas port.
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A pistol cartridge like that in an AR should function with blowback operation.
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the 9x25 dillon is pretty damn hot, its pretty close to a low power rifle.
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Did you ever finish the thing?
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half way, got a trigger group and all the other lower bits. then the truck finally gave out and i need to save for a newer one.
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back to your original question.
My son is building out an AR and I just bought a lower parts kit for him from Red Barn Armory,
http://www.redbarnarmory.com/default.asp (http://www.redbarnarmory.com/default.asp)
The unique thing is you can start with a basic kit and then substitute options. I wanted a Timney trigger and I already have a spare grip. So I upgraded the trigger option and deleted the grip. I get the trigger and my son gets the rest of the lower parts, plus my spare grip and my standard trigger. Basically I got my trigger upgrade for $175 and he got a complete lower parts kit for about $35.
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Got the parts last week and got the lower done :) still need to get an upper, but i am happy with things right now. next month i will activly start on a upper for the 9x25 dillon. I have a couple bathrooms i need to remodel so i have some cash lol
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TAB.... a good friend and tekkie has been shooting a 9x25 for a lot of years... he built a MecTec carbine (straight blowback) chambered for it.... he decided that when the ejected brass was no longer a bottleneck, but blown back into a straight wall case, it was time to quit....
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a mektech is a pistol(glock or 1911) with a blow back upper. its just a toy any ways. Might see 500 rounds a year. its more becuase i can then anything else. i am not looking for a hunter( this would actually be pretty nice as one) a games gun or sd. i don't need a zombie gun as i have better options.
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so after about 1.5 years, I finally got around to ordering the barrel and upper today. can't wait. next month it is reloading dies. hopefully I can shoot it on my bd ( end of august.)
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It's okay, I had an upper for 5 years before it got its own lower.
I'm all caught up now. Equal number of Uppers and Lowers. I think my next project is moving on to the 10/22 project. If I can just find a cheap, bunged up 10/22 starter.
Looking forward to hearing about the completed project.
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got a tracking number for the barrel today... can't wait for the brown truck of happiness to show up.
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Nobody hates to see UPS.
It may not be something you want, but you think it is . ;D
I would like to get a 10/22 target and put an MG-42 kit on it with a beta mag and Aim Point. could use the bipod from a Ruger Charger.
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got a tracking number for the barrel today... can't wait for the brown truck of happiness to show up.
"Oh, the Wells Fargo wagon is a comin' down the street, I wonder what it could be?"
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American Express started out as a freight company.
Years ago, early 1900's, they delivered a case of explosives to an old farmer near here on a rainy day, the box got wet so he put it in the oven to dry.
It's been called "Dynamite Corner" ever since. ;D
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Music Man Alf!
Richard
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Ok so now I need 2 things, mags and ammo!
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Brown truck of happiness, just droped off the mags, sadly I am away on business.
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There's a serious problem here!
No pictures!
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There's a serious problem here!
No pictures!
I am over 1000 miles away from home, and will be til then end of August
;(
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I am over 1000 miles away from home, and will be til then end of August
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Is this some excuse? Only 1,000 miles? Not like you're across the ocean or something.
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Is this some excuse? Only 1,000 miles? Not like you're across the ocean or something.
and in a diffrnt country, americas hat.
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finally have few days to actually shoot this beast.
heading to the range Friday, rain or shine.
where did the time go?
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I thought some of my projects took a long time.
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Life plus work and starting the emily fualk foundation. Really put a lot of demands on my time. Been almost 2 years since I have shot other then pest control.
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range report time
1st it is loud, I mean seems louder then a 223. not a lot of flash.
the spring I have is too stiff would not cycle at all, so started cutting off half coils. 2.5 coils did the trick.
off handwith an acog on it, it will shoot 3" groups at 50 yards, but how much of that is me using just the acog on a paper plate and how much is the rifle I am not sure. would need to put a real scope on it and do a proper test. I just used some double tap 125 grainers for the test. chrono read from 1921-1968 at about 10' with most falling in the high 40s to low 50s. which would put the muzzle energy right at about 1050. which is damn close to the 1100 a 55 gr puts out at 3k fps.
still lots of tweaking to do, but I am headed back out on the road and will not be back until the middle of march.
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Make sure you have te right buffer components for a carbine, both the spring AND buffer are different.
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It's okay, I had an upper for 5 years before it got its own lower.
I'm all caught up now. Equal number of Uppers and Lowers. I think my next project is moving on to the 10/22 project. If I can just find a cheap, bunged up 10/22 starter.
I just picked up a 40-Year Anniversary model from a buddy of mine for $100. My dad wanted a ground squirrel sniper rifle and I had this in the safe ;D
He asked me what he should do, so I told him to go to Midway and start looking for what he wants. Ship it to me and we will wring it out this summer when he comes down 8)
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Make sure you have te right buffer components for a carbine, both the spring AND buffer are different.
I bought a 10mm upper. then had a 9mm barrel cut for the 9x25
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Any pics?
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on my phone