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Title: AZ Gov. Brewer Signed A Gun Bill Into Law Monday. Gee, Didn't Hear Much?
Post by: twyacht on April 30, 2013, 05:49:47 PM
Seems that any AZ city/county that has a gun "buyback", will have to sell them and not just destroy them.....(already addressed in 2010, but some Dept's skirted).

Huh?

A reasonable gun law signed by AZ?  ??? Didn't make the alphabet news networks?  ;)

I'm shocked.... ;D

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/04/30/did-you-know-ariz-gov-jan-brewer-signed-a-gun-law-on-monday/

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Did You Know Ariz. Gov. Jan Brewer Signed a Gun Law on Monday?

Apr. 30, 2013 2:23pm Liz Klimas

Arizona Governor Jan Brewer Signs Bill Making It Illegal to Destroy Guns in Buybacks


PHOENIX (AP) — Arizona cities and counties that hold community gun buyback events will have to sell the surrendered weapons instead of destroying them under a bill Gov. Jan Brewer signed into law Monday.

The bill was championed by Republicans in the GOP-controlled Legislature who argued that municipalities were skirting a 2010 law that was tightened last year and requires police to sell seized weapons to federally licensed dealers. They argued that destroying property turned over to the government is a waste of taxpayer resources.


Democrats who argued against the bill said it usurps local control and goes against the wishes of people who turn over their unwanted weapons to keep them out of the hands of children or thieves.

Buybacks are popular among some police and elected officials who either pay cash or hand out gift cards in exchange for weapons. Tucson and other Arizona communities destroyed weapons from the events, arguing that because the guns were voluntarily surrendered, the laws concerning weapons seized by authorities didn’t apply.

House Bill 2455 prompted a furious debate in the state Senate, where Democrats accused Republicans of complaining about an overbearing federal government but then turning around and dictating policies to local governments.

Brewer’s office did not release any signing letter accompanying the announcement of more than 30 bill she signed Monday evening, but the Republican governor is a strong gun-rights supporter and had signed the 2010 and 2012 laws.

The governor’s office said it received nearly 2,000 letters, emails or phone calls about the bill, with only 25 opposed.


One of the letters in support was from the National Rifle Association, which argued that selling seized or forfeited guns “would maintain their value, and their sale to the public would help recover public funds.” The NRA letter said the bill doesn’t prevent a private group from holding an event and destroying the weapons.

“However, this measure would ensure that taxpayer resources are not utilized to pursue a political agenda of destroying firearms,” according to the letter, sent April 22 and signed by Brent Gardner with the NRA’s Institute for Legislative Action.

Maricopa County Supervisor Mary Rose Wilcox, a Democrat who champions the buyback events and survived being shot in the buttocks at the end of a 1997 Board of Supervisors meeting, sent a letter to Brewer urging a veto.

The bill “would force the resale of guns that would otherwise never have been used for violence,” she wrote. “How many lives would be lost through the use of weapons our citizens hoped to be removed from the hands of criminals?”

A second bill signed by Brewer on Monday bars cities, towns and counties from collecting or maintaining any identifying information about a person who owns or sells a firearm.


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Oh and she always has the famous "finger" meeting with BHO on the tarmac of the Phoenix airport. She likes BHO alot... ::)
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Go Jan Go!!!!
Title: Re: AZ Gov. Brewer Signed A Gun Bill Into Law Monday. Gee, Didn't Hear Much?
Post by: MikeBjerum on May 01, 2013, 11:01:54 PM
Love that photo!

With him grabbing her with his right hand I love to imagine her ordering him "Let go, or you're going to be nursing a bloody stump!"
Title: Re: AZ Gov. Brewer Signed A Gun Bill Into Law Monday. Gee, Didn't Hear Much?
Post by: tombogan03884 on May 02, 2013, 01:33:02 PM
Love that photo!

With him grabbing her with his right hand I love to imagine her ordering him "Let go, or you're going to be nursing a bloody stump!"

No means NO .   ;D
Title: Re: AZ Gov. Brewer Signed A Gun Bill Into Law Monday. Gee, Didn't Hear Much?
Post by: Solus on May 02, 2013, 02:23:46 PM
My first thought is that BHO has just said   "Now, Jan, Honey...."

Honestly, it is impressive to see anyone stand nose to nose with the President and let him know just what he is doing wrong...without mincing works, it seems.


And about the bill...it just has to have Liberals sputtering....Gun Buy Backs make them feel so good...and now they know if they have another one, savvy firearms enthusiasts will know when to line up for some possible bargains ...anything of value will be purchased and any junk is probably safer off the market.  
Title: Re: AZ Gov. Brewer Signed A Gun Bill Into Law Monday. Gee, Didn't Hear Much?
Post by: TAB on May 02, 2013, 05:29:02 PM
i have a better idea, lets run the sn and get the guns back to thier rightful owners.( assuming they were stolen. I am sure its a high %)
Title: Re: AZ Gov. Brewer Signed A Gun Bill Into Law Monday. Gee, Didn't Hear Much?
Post by: tombogan03884 on May 02, 2013, 06:15:57 PM
i have a better idea, lets run the sn and get the guns back to thier rightful owners.( assuming they were stolen. I am sure its a high %)

Probably as high or higher percentage were something Uncle Fred left when he died and no one knows what else to do with it.
Title: Re: AZ Gov. Brewer Signed A Gun Bill Into Law Monday. Gee, Didn't Hear Much?
Post by: TAB on May 03, 2013, 01:23:27 AM
THen there are the guys that bought cheap pos and made money.   it all depends on where the buy back was done..
Title: Re: AZ Gov. Brewer Signed A Gun Bill Into Law Monday. Gee, Didn't Hear Much?
Post by: Solus on May 03, 2013, 09:43:15 AM
I just don't see how many stolen guns would end up at a Buy Back.

I mean, I sure wouldn't go out the night before to heist a few Roscoes just to sell they way under market at the event run by police?

And if I were a criminal and happened to have a stolen gun, I sure wouldn't hand it to police for peanuts either.

And if an honest person somehow gained possession of a stolen gun, they would have turned it in to police ASAP....I guess if they found it lying on the ground on the way to work or school the day of the event, they might go to the Buy Back...but even that is unlikely.

Title: Re: AZ Gov. Brewer Signed A Gun Bill Into Law Monday. Gee, Didn't Hear Much?
Post by: tombogan03884 on May 03, 2013, 03:44:38 PM
"heist a few Roscoes"

WTF ?
How old ARE you ?   ;D
Title: Re: AZ Gov. Brewer Signed A Gun Bill Into Law Monday. Gee, Didn't Hear Much?
Post by: Solus on May 03, 2013, 04:02:30 PM
"heist a few Roscoes"

WTF ?
How old ARE you ?   ;D

My dad grew up in Chicago, South Side and ran with Al Capone's younger brother..went to a Catholic elementary school together.

Dad ran book in 5 taverns in Chicago, so family stories go.

Dad's brother-in-law, my uncle, George Lawson, was a hit man for the Capones.

A lot of the vocabulary of those days floated around family dinners.
Title: Re: AZ Gov. Brewer Signed A Gun Bill Into Law Monday. Gee, Didn't Hear Much?
Post by: tombogan03884 on May 03, 2013, 05:15:08 PM
You should do a "living history" video .