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Member Section => Defense and Tactics => Topic started by: MikeBjerum on May 06, 2013, 09:55:46 AM
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2319796/NRA-advises-parents-protect-children-keeping-guns-bedrooms.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2319796/NRA-advises-parents-protect-children-keeping-guns-bedrooms.html)
Read the story and watch the video. Also, during the video you can hear responses by the audience to his question - Listen carefully.
Good sound advise, and the media is starting to roll against it.
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http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/05/05/what-piece-of-seemingly-benign-advice-from-an-nra-speaker-has-liberal-sites-up-in-arms/
A speaker at the National Rifle Association convention advised parents to keep an extra gun safe in their children’s room — a suggestion that quickly made its way around the liberal blogosphere.
Rob Pincus, the owner of self-defense training company I.C.E., told the audience at his seminar on home defense Saturday that if they hear an intruder, their first instinct will be to run to their kids. Therefore, that’s where their gun should be as well.
“In the middle of the night, if I’m in the bathroom or getting a glass of water or I’m in the bedroom or watching TV in the living room, if that alarm goes off and the glass breaks and the dog starts barking, what’s the instinct that most people are going to have, in regard to, ‘am I going to run across the house to get the gun, or am I going to run over here to help the screaming kid?’” Pincus said. “And if I’m going to go to the kid anyway, and I have an extra gun and an extra safe, why not put it in their closet?”
The left-leaning website ThinkProgress posted video of Pincus’ comments with the headline, “NRA ‘Home Defense’ Course Instructs Audience To Store Guns In Kids’ Room.” It was quickly picked up by the Huffington Post, Raw Story and elsewhere. Those sites cited statistics about child deaths from accidental shootings and from gun violence.
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Thats not bad advice actually, and the safe is actually "safer" then a gun under your pillow or on the night stand.
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I love this. If I'm wearing pants, odds are I'm carrying a gun. I don't have kids, so no issues of keeping guns out of the tricycle motor's hands. But I do know this. A rational criminal with full knowlege would break into the home a Huff Po editorial writer before he would break into mine, because they would give him a stern talking to, and I would shoot his arse. This seems to be basic common sense, I mean, its why we have an Army, for defense and detterence. But yet these idiots think unilateral personal disarament makes them safer. WTF? ???
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The concept seems sound, you can improve it by using a tactical vault which is biometric and holds up to two long guns and two handguns and a tactical flashlight, with biometrics you and spouse could be coded and that way there is no chance a child could access it? Most criminals would never expect you to come out of a child's room ready to roll?
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The wimps are right for the wrong reason .
It's a dumb idea to keep your SD weapons in ANY other room but the one you are in .
Let's play make believe here .
You hear glass breaking and strange voices at 3AM, you jump out of bed and head to where ever your guns are when, OOPSIES,
you meet 2 intruders in the hallway .
Whatcha gonna do now ?
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Tom is right. Keep the weapon at your hand. You take the intruders head on and quickly. Wifey can head to kids room where having a gun safe is a good idea as back up and last resort. But you are the first responder, so if you only do one thing, do as Tom suggests.
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It's O dark thirty, your prostate is enlarged, so you get up often, your tinkling, and you realize there is danger in the home. Where do you go first - To your bedroom where the self defense tool is, or to lock your children down? Not all of us carry Glocks, so gun in one hand and firearm in the other isn't advised ;)
Staged self defense tools in all areas of the home is a good idea!
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M58, if I get up at "O dark thirty" my Kel Tec is in the waist band of my skivvies.
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Sounds like good advice to me. It is the reason I have a few knives about the house and the odd length of wood. Never know when or where you are going to need something
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You see the story about the guy forced into the closet by home invaders he came out loaded for bear. My Dad was dissin me for having a 44 in the closet. Boy Scout time/be prepared.
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Yes I saw it, and I laughed like crazy as I read it .
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Sounds like good advice to me. It is the reason I have a few knives about the house and the odd length of wood. Never know when or where you are going to need something
Uhh......Where does the Taurus live? Seems like it might beat knives and bits of wood.
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Uhh......Where does the Taurus live? Seems like it might beat knives and bits of wood.
In Oz he MUST keep all fire arms locked up at all times and he's subject to random inspection .
The odds are probably fairly low, but if he got caught he would lose everything .
And if he did shoot an intruder the first thing they would look into would be how he got to a gun fast enough for it to do any good.
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In Oz he MUST keep all fire arms locked up at all times and he's subject to random inspection .
The odds are probably fairly low, but if he got caught he would lose everything .
Yep, 100% correct,
also ammo locked separately
And if he did shoot an intruder the first thing they would look into would be how he got to a gun fast enough for it to do any good.
I was cleaning my firearms and packing everything from my trip to the range your honour
what it was 2am, wow how time flys, they were really dirty your honour
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Cleanliness is next to Godliness . ;D
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Yep, 100% correct,
also ammo locked separately
I was cleaning my firearms and packing everything from my trip to the range your honour
what it was 2am, wow how time flys, they were really dirty your honour
Can you keep a loaded mag with your gun? Those little pistol safes, which I would own if I had a rug rat, law or no law, can be gotten into PDQ.
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Can you keep a loaded mag with your gun? Those little pistol safes, which I would own if I had a rug rat, law or no law, can be gotten into PDQ.
Sure he can.
If he want's to risk going to prison, which I doubt .
Although with that avatar you never know...
;D
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Can you keep a loaded mag with your gun? Those little pistol safes, which I would own if I had a rug rat, law or no law, can be gotten into PDQ.
lol as Tom said
nope
over here if in law, with the Mag if it is loaded they treat that the same as if the firearm is also loaded, even if it is not in the gun.
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lol as Tom said
nope
over here if in law, with the Mag if it is loaded they treat that the same as if the firearm is also loaded, even if it is not in the gun.
Do mags have to be empty anywhere in the house?
Do they need to be locked up?
I'm guessing they might....they wouldn't want you carrying a loaded mag around with you in the house.
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I have grandkids that visit and have a quick access safe in their room(as well as others around the house). my grandkids know about guns and have no desire to fiddle with them without grandpa. Rob sounds like he thought it thru and I agree. I do not OPENLY carry my gun around the house when the young'uns are around. Having one where I am going sounds like a good idea.
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I have grandkids that visit and have a quick access safe in their room(as well as others around the house). my grandkids know about guns and have no desire to fiddle with them without grandpa. Rob sounds like he thought it thru and I agree. I do not OPENLY carry my gun around the house when the young'uns are around. Having one where I am going sounds like a good idea.
To rephrase my earlier post ,
Pincus obviously did not think this through .
What happens if the bad guys meet you between where you are, and where your gun is .
Simple answer is you will probably be killed and then the rest of your family will be victimized and killed .
That being said, I will toss out the possibility that Pincus realized such an action is tactically unsound, but the very idea would drive anti's insane for all the wrong reasons and would therefore be fun to watch.
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Pincus thought it through.
Here is an excerpt of his statement:
In the middle of the night, if I’m in the bathroom or getting a glass of water or in the bedroom or watching TV in the living room, if that alarm goes off and the glass breaks and the dog starts barking, what’s the instinct that most people are going to have, in regards to, “am I going to run across the house to get the gun, or am I going to run over here to help the screaming kid?” And if I’m going to go to the kid anyway, and I have an extra gun and an extra safe, why not put it in their closet?
So he is talking about a SPARE gun and safe...and going to it if it is closer or more expedient to go to your kids than your usual safe.
Find the transcript here"
http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2013/05/04/1964091/nra-guns-kids-room/?mobile=nc