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Member Section => Down Range Cafe => Topic started by: twyacht on May 20, 2013, 05:16:37 PM
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Seems the cab driver (who called the po-po) thought he was driving a foreign terrorist on the way to the Colorado Gun Collectors Show with OMG!!! Gun cases...OMG!!!..
http://www.examiner.com/article/shotgun-executive-taken-into-custody-at-colo-gun-show-on-cabbie-terror-tip
Daniele Perazzi, president of the Italian Perazzi Shotguns firm, was taken into custody yesterday by Adams County Deputies [see update, below] along with several prototype shotguns. The executive was picked up in the parking lot of the Denver Merchandise Mart, hosting the high-end Colorado Gun Collectors show this weekend, after a taxi driver, likely reacting to a suspicious activity reporting outreach program conducted by law enforcement, told authorities he thought he could be transporting an armed “foreign speaking” terror suspect.
“He loaded prototype shotguns into the cab on the way to the Merchandise Mart,” gun rights activist and newly-elected National Rifle Association Director Steve Schreiner, who is attending the event this weekend, told Gun Rights Examiner this morning. “The cab driver notified law enforcement he suspected he had a terrorist in his cab, and they were waiting to intercept him, evidently oblivious to the fact that he was arriving at a highly-publicized area gun show.
“He has two lawyers, Schreiner continued, “one of whom went to the police station, and convinced the police that the owner of one of the most expensive shotgun companies in the world was not a terrorist.
Perazzi was released a short time later and his prototype shotguns were returned to him, but reports have emerged that he was ordered by law enforcement to leave the state by nightfall, and sources tell Gun Rights Examiner he has gone one step further and left the country. He is expected to be returning soon with an eye toward filing legal action.
Gun Rights Examiner also spoke this morning with one of the two attorneys involved with helping Perazzi straighten matters out to obtain his release. That attorney essentially confirmed the account provided by Schreiner, albeit she characterized the authorities’ position on Perazzi leaving the state more as advice than an ultimatum by the sheriff to get out of town by sundown -- something that would have no readily apparent legal basis. A call has been put in to the Adams County Sheriff’s Department Public Information Officer for comment and clarification on this and other details, but a response has not been received at this writing.
Schreiner attributes the cab driver’s reaction to training authorities have provided taxi companies, where they are encouraged to call law enforcement and report suspicious activities and people based on subjective criteria and limited training.
Further confirmation of the incident and its details has been provided in a report on Fox 31 Denver, which also states “Just this past week, some Denver taxi drivers were honored for reporting incidents while on duty. A program called Taxis on Patrol (TOPS) encourages cabbies to report suspicious activity while they’re on the clock.”
Gun Rights Examiner has reported several times on the dangers of law enforcement “terror” profiling to create suspicion for things as innocuous as shaving a beard, being a “prepper” and supporting the Constitution. That Perazzi was able to obtain his safe release in a timely manner is the one positive outcome of a situation that nonetheless left a foreign national admittedly “scared during the incident because he’s not familiar with U.S. gun laws and thought he’d done something wrong.”
How much more scared a person would be who is not a corporate president and who can’t summon two lawyers on a Saturday is a fair consideration to question, as is the physical danger an innocent person and bystanders could be placed in when untrained persons are encouraged and rewarded for putting the finger on others based on poorly-defined tripwires, stereotypes and official hysteria.
Those dangers may get some major media attention soon, since Gun Rights Examiner just received word that Good Morning America has noticed this story and will be investigating and reporting on it in the coming days.
UPDATE: While gathering statements for this story, there was confusion on whether or not the officers taking Perazzi and his guns into custody were with the Adams County Sheriff's Department or from the Denver Police Department. Steve Schreiner just called to say he spoke with Joe Leiper, a gun show official, who told him that the Adams County deputies were in his office at the time of the incident and knew nothing about it, meaning if this bears out, it was Denver PD -- whether this could also result in jurisdictional issues is not known at this time.
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Here's a thought,....NO Gun Collectors Show in Colorado any more....
Pastafazule!!!! Too bad the Corleone's are retired I think a horse head delivery would be about right.
Clowns...
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I hope he finds the best scum sucking lawyer he can. Bend them over, wrap it barb wire and go to town.
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Denver Police have over the years proven themselves to be the embodiment of, well, jackbooted thugs. When Obama was in town Denver PD rounded up plenty of True Believers — did you see their shiny little eyes? — and gave them time to be shills B-Ho, but officers who wanted to join the demonstrators outside, I'm told, were informed it was their job if they did so.
The Perazzi debacle emphasizes my point that the Denver police are frothing at the mouth for 1 July and the chance to enforce the unconstitutional gun laws.
FAIR WARNING: AFTER 1 JULY, KEEP THE HECK OUT OF DENVER/BOULDER!
Michael B
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FTA:
“The cab driver notified law enforcement he suspected he had a terrorist in his cab, and they were waiting to intercept him, evidently oblivious to the fact that he was arriving at a highly-publicized area gun show.
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If I wasn't laughing/crying/shaking head in disbelief/still wanting to mail a horse head to somebody in Denver,....
He's Italian, a CEO, C'mon,,,,, Minimum $1500 suit and bling, and his shoes probably cost more than my best suit. The cases were, I'm guessing not PLANO Wally World either.....Terrorist? "Intercepted"?
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All I can ask is "Really?"
Seriously,...."Really?"....
I'm so sorry MB for what has happened to Colorado. Hope your new secret squirrel hidden bunker is in a more favorable state.
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Damn Sad.
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I can honestly understand why the police responded to the call from the cab driver.
But anyone willing to ask questions first and arrest later would have realized what happened, thanked the CEO for his time and apologized for the inconvenience. .... and if there was a bone of "gun nut" in any one of them, they'd have tried to wrangle and invite to the show to see his new guns.
More of the SOP of acting first and thinking later.
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Given their history, he's damn lucky he didn't get a beat down by the DPD, followed by a cavity search.
To paraphrase the Rabbit; I weep for my state.
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I can honestly understand why the police responded to the call from the cab driver.
Really?
THEY WERE GOING TO AN EXCLUSIVE GUN SHOW COLLECTORS EXHIBIT! One of the most expensive and top shelf shows in the State. I agree with you acting first and thinking last was part of the LEO's agenda, however, a stupid cabbie, part of a city wide snitch program, picking up a wealthy Italian from a top shelf hotel, in top shelf attire, with top shelf gun cases is a reason to "Intercept" at the Gun show? Has no one kinda THOUGHT about that?
WTF? Is this the TSA directive? Frisk feels on kids and granny in a wheelchair?
Enough already!
It will be interesting to see what the ABC/GMA report will be.
Horse head deliveries work better to get clowns attention...
At some point "reality" needs to be the true "intercept".....
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In the next couple of years this nation will become more divided than 1960's Berlin. It's already well on it's way.
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FTA:
“The cab driver notified law enforcement he suspected he had a terrorist in his cab, and they were waiting to intercept him, evidently oblivious to the fact that he was arriving at a highly-publicized area gun show.
This indoctrination to report your neighbor is happening all over.
I was at the Star Trek movie last weekend when a very official looking screen appeared with about 4 very important-looking logos of various .gov and private agencies, admonishing us all to report any suspicious activities in the theater, like illegal movie copying. :o ??? ::) 8)
I actually got dirty looks from people when I said aid rather loudly and with a laugh - sieg heil!
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I can honestly understand why the police responded to the call from the cab driver.
Really?
THEY WERE GOING TO AN EXCLUSIVE GUN SHOW COLLECTORS EXHIBIT! One of the most expensive and top shelf shows in the State. I agree with you acting first and thinking last was part of the LEO's agenda, however, a stupid cabbie, part of a city wide snitch program, picking up a wealthy Italian from a top shelf hotel, in top shelf attire, with top shelf gun cases is a reason to "Intercept" at the Gun show? Has no one kinda THOUGHT about that?
WTF? Is this the TSA directive? Frisk feels on kids and granny in a wheelchair?
Enough already!
It will be interesting to see what the ABC/GMA report will be.
Horse head deliveries work better to get clowns attention...
At some point "reality" needs to be the true "intercept".....
I missed the part where it said the police were aware of all that when they got the call.
So what you are saying is that if you are running the Police Department and you get a call reporting a suspected terrorist with guns, you will assume it is a mistake and have another cup of coffee?
I don't see the problem with police responding to possible threat reports, just with how they deal with them once they arrive.
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Sorry, it's a great story but it is not true. CEO that the story is talking about has been dead for a year. Some one made up a wopper and the Company is going after them.
http://www.examiner.com/article/shotgun-executive-taken-into-custody-at-colo-gun-show-on-cabbie-terror-tip (http://www.examiner.com/article/shotgun-executive-taken-into-custody-at-colo-gun-show-on-cabbie-terror-tip)
PRESS RELEASE by Perazzi SPA
With regard to reports in the American press, in relation to an alleged arrest for "terrorism" by Daniele Perazzi (founder of Perazzi Armi SpA), we point out that the news is completely devoid of any foundation. Daniele Perazzi is however, unfortunately, failed to live for about a year. Even his son, Mauro, was last Saturday in the USA. As reported in the press is absolutely false. The company Perazzi, however, contrary to what is written, is familiar with the American legislation on weapons because of his extensive and well-known activities of marketing its products in the USA. Since it is difficult to think of simple error, it is believed that someone who has interests contrary to those of the Perazzi SpA, may have spread false and misleading information purposes only defamatory. The company has already instructed his lawyers to take the most appropriate actions, civil and criminal, in order to protect the brand represented and its activity, carried on the American market. Perazzi Armi SpA
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Yea heard that this a.m. that it's not what the MSM cracks it up to be. Perazzi family said no family members were involved. Seems like a setup/hoax. Wonder who they will try to blame for the false reporting to LEO's or maybe it was LEO's under Gov. Chickenpoopers, son of Bloomberg orders.
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According to MB's blog people who were there say it DID happen while the Perrazzi family, who were not there, say it didn't.
Sounds like possibly it was reported with an incorrect name .
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Caught this on Codrea's site, and TTAG, soooooo more questions now?
Who was taken into custody? There were witnesses.
A big wig at the NRA saw "someone" taken away with the po-po, with some cases.
WTF?
If you go back to the Examiner story, they explain that it was the grandson of the founder. From the writer of the article:
“The bottom line is, I went through an extraordinary level of verification on this story before publishing it. If it turns out that it is, as the press release states, “completely devoid of any foundation,” that means someone went to extraordinary lengths to create and perpetuate a hoax story, and to draw me and others into it, and to smooth entry by using credible people.”
Hmmmmm.....
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And the plot thickens :o
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I don't think you should be allowed to plead the 5th when you are a elected/ appointed offical when it comes to goverment corruption. there is no 5th in the miltary.
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A member of the military CAN invoke the 5th Amendment! He may not be successful but he certainly has the right! It's called an Article 31 of the UCMJ!
ART. 31. COMPULSORY SELF-INCRIMINATION PROHIBITED
(a) No person subject to this chapter may compel any person to incriminate himself or to answer any questions the answer to which may tend to incriminate him.
(b) No person subject to this chapter may interrogate, or request any statement from an accused or a person suspected of an offense without first informing him of the nature of the accusation and advising him that he does not have to make any statement regarding the offense of which he is accused or suspected and that any statement made by him may be used as evidence against him in a trial by court-martial.
(c) No person subject to this chapter may compel any person to make a statement or produce evidence before any military tribunal if the statement or evidence in not material to the issue and may tend to degrade him.
(d) No statement obtained from any person in violation of this article, or through the use of coercion, unlawful influence, or unlawful inducement may be received in evidence against him in a trial by court-martial.
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OK, either I am losing it But what the hell are Tab and Timothy talking about, Did you both get on the wrong post ( maybe IRS) or have one of us lost our minds. ??? ::) ;D
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Probably Buckshot!
It's never a bad time to correct an incorrect statement though!
:)
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+100
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i posted that in the irs thread, wtf
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Sounds like TAB unpacked the box with the booze in it . ;D
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i don't drink
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Sounds like TAB unpacked the box with the booze in it . ;D
Or something
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Oregon has been " Or Something" for a while I do believe. ::) ;D
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Oregon has been " Or Something" for a while I do believe. ::) ;D
For the last ~7 years but only for "medicinal uses" ::)
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Did any one ever hear what actually did or didn't happen ?
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Was wondering as well Tom.
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I went to their website to send an apoglize for my stupid countrymen and found this via Google Translate. Somebody screwed teh pooch.
OFFICIAL PRESS RELEASE
About press reports of Denver (Colorado), relating to an alleged arrest for terrorism Daniele Perazzi (founder of Perazzi Armi SpA) urged by a taxi driver of the place, we point out that the news is completely devoid of any foundation.
In fact, Daniele Perazzi is, unfortunately, failed to live for about a year. Even his son, Mauro, was last Saturday in the USA.
This means that as reported in the press is absolutely false and wrong and that, consequently, the news has not been verified for nothing.
The company Perazzi, however, contrary to what is written, is familiar with the American legislation on weapons because of his extensive and well-known activities of marketing its products in the USA.
Since it is difficult to think of simple error, it is believed that someone who has interests contrary to those of the Perazzi SpA, may have created this false defamatory purposes only.
The company has already instructed his lawyers to take the most appropriate actions, civil and criminal, in order to protect the brand represented and related activities, and also turning a profit on the American market.
Roberta Perazzi
CEO Perazzi Armi SpA
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Thanks for the update Joe .
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Seems the "truth" is hard to find,.....From the Italian Media:
http://translate.google.com/translate?sl=it&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Famerica24.com%2Fnews%2Fla-bufala-dell-arresto-di-perazzi-un-falso-scoop-creato-dalla-lobby-delle-armi-
Was it a set up?
Nothing to see here folks,....just another play to control the narrative and talking points. Remember that....the low information voters count on it.