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Member Section => Politics & RKBA => Topic started by: WatchManUSA on June 15, 2013, 01:14:02 PM

Title: Plan for gun club near high school ignites debate in Osseo
Post by: WatchManUSA on June 15, 2013, 01:14:02 PM
http://m.startribune.com/?id=211637041

Supporters and opponents of plans for a gun range in Osseo just two blocks from a high school are expected to pack a city meeting Monday at which the proposal will be discussed.

The $3.3 million gun club would include a 20-lane shooting range and a gun shop, opening by this fall if it gets city approval over the next month.

As firearm sales increase across the Twin Cities, supporters say the gun club will serve a growing population of metro area gun owners and attract visitors to the small northwestern suburb.

But less than 500 feet away, leaders at Osseo High School worry it could threaten students’ safety.

“The location is the main concern; it’s too close to the school,” Osseo Assistant Superintendent Kim Riesgraf said.

At a May city meeting, several residents spoke out in favor of the gun range, hoping it will boost business. At the school district, Riesgraf said they understand the benefits to local businesses, but that school leaders just want to ensure student safety at the 1,500-student high school. She worries that gun owners walking from the gun club with firearms could be mistaken as a threat to school safety.

“Is that a person going to the gun range or do we have to worry about a threatening person?” she said.
Title: Re: Plan for gun club near high school ignites debate in Osseo
Post by: fightingquaker13 on June 15, 2013, 01:32:06 PM
Tell them the range will sponsor a high school marksmanship team, and provide free SD classes to all the students over 16. That ought to win them over. ;D
Title: Re: Plan for gun club near high school ignites debate in Osseo
Post by: JoeG on June 16, 2013, 10:17:51 AM
Actually having the range so close probably takes them off this list of schools for nut jobs to shoot up. Less likely to meet the gun free zone definition.

Not a winning argument of course as it relies on a grasp of reality that is sadly lacking in most.
Title: Re: Plan for gun club near high school ignites debate in Osseo
Post by: tombogan03884 on June 16, 2013, 12:23:55 PM
In North Hampton NH the skeet range is directly next door to the Middle school .
Been that way for decades with no problems.
This is just ignorant sh!tbag anti's trying to stop a range .
Title: Re: Plan for gun club near high school ignites debate in Osseo
Post by: MikeBjerum on June 16, 2013, 12:27:46 PM
The story is written by the extreme liberal Star Tribune staff, and is soaked up by our liberal metro area.  The only reason to read this paper is to know what the other side is up to.  Outside of that it is nothing by repeaters of the talking points penned by the liberal machine.

There is a point in there about since it is so close to the school it could cause a lock down due to firearms being spotted.  This is not too far fetched.  Just a few years ago there was an incidence where law enforcement was called and a person, an elected official, arrested because a security camera in a parking lot showed his firearm in a holster on his hip as he exited his car and put on his sport coat.  This story took a strange twist in the weeks that followed, but at the time of the 911 call and the arrest they only thing they had on him is that he was in a parking lot with a handgun where a business was posted for no guns.  Bogus call and bogus arrest.

Tuesday evening a metro area police department is putting on a two hour firearms safety class for the public.  I am up there for work on Tuesday's, so I am planning to attend to see what the PD has to say, and what the anti's have to say.
Title: Re: Plan for gun club near high school ignites debate in Osseo
Post by: MikeBjerum on June 16, 2013, 12:30:31 PM
One more point:

The term club is used by the author of the article.  I presume to get attention.  Check out the facts!  It is a firearms store and range.  It is not a sportsmen's club like most of the ranges secluded in the rural areas of the state.  This is an actual legal retail business no different than the Gander Mountain in Lakeville with their firearm department and range that is used for practice, recreation and training.
Title: Re: Plan for gun club near high school ignites debate in Osseo
Post by: tombogan03884 on June 16, 2013, 12:30:50 PM
If the anti's were smart they would say nothing but "Yes Master, No Master" since, having no means to defend them, they have only the rights the armed majority allow them.
Title: Re: Plan for gun club near high school ignites debate in Osseo
Post by: MikeBjerum on June 16, 2013, 12:39:17 PM
Problem Tom is that they do not know how uniformed, misinformed, and vulnerable they are.  While they were screaming about "Conceal and Carry"* in Minnesota last year there were groups on bicycles riding through downtown and beating people with clubs as they dined in sidewalk restaurant areas. 

*Minnesota does not have Conceal and Carry.  We are a carry state.  Intent is not to carry openly, but that if somebody sees your firearm you are not breaking the law.
Title: Re: Plan for gun club near high school ignites debate in Osseo
Post by: Solus on June 16, 2013, 02:19:25 PM
Referencing that   Secret Knowledge book again, he writes that liberals have a driving need to belong, to be part of the group.

Anyone who acts as an individual is a threat to the "group".

The need for "membership" and the fear of losing it short circuits any logical though that might jeopardize that membership.

It could very well that they would welcome a totalitarian state so that their membership would be guaranteed for life.   
Title: Re: Plan for gun club near high school ignites debate in Osseo
Post by: tombogan03884 on June 16, 2013, 02:37:04 PM
Referencing that   Secret Knowledge book again, he writes that liberals have a driving need to belong, to be part of the group.

Anyone who acts as an individual is a threat to the "group".


The need for "membership" and the fear of losing it short circuits any logical though that might jeopardize that membership.

It could very well that they would welcome a totalitarian state so that their membership would be guaranteed for life.   

Herd animals .
Just like sheep.
Title: Re: Plan for gun club near high school ignites debate in Osseo
Post by: MikeBjerum on June 17, 2013, 03:41:47 PM
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Don't forget about tonight's planning commission meeting in Osseo regarding the newly planned indoor shooting range and retail store. Evil Heather Martens is rallying her 5 acolytes against this development, so please try to show up in support of this lawful business.

Details:

Project: Conditional use permit needed for 14-20 lane gun range and retail sales, gunsmithing, and gun safety classroom space. Potential locations being considered include: old senior center site; Block 22, the old NRG Dance Studio and the old Advantage Stone and Brick Supply site were all being considered.
Meeting date: June 17, 2013, 7 p.m. (show up by 6 p.m. if you can)
Meeting location: 415 Central Ave., Osseo 55369, Osseo City Hall, downstairs.
The proposal will be voted on by the planning commission that evening, then passed to the Osseo City Council for a vote on June 24.

If you can't make it to the meeting, call or email the planning commission with your message of support for the project:
City of Osseo, MN
Attn: Planning Commission
415 Central Avenue
Osseo, MN 55369
Ph: 763.425.2624 | Fax: 763.425.1111 Email: info@discoverosseo.com
Title: Re: Plan for gun club near high school ignites debate in Osseo
Post by: Rastus on June 18, 2013, 06:22:26 AM
Herd animals .
Just like sheep.

Only far worse than a sheep.