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Title: Ever shoot a Hard Drive?
Post by: santahog on July 27, 2013, 10:18:25 PM
I put 5+ rounds on one this evening and only one made it to the second layer! One just barely scratched it!!   :o
I was impressed!
Granted, it was Wolf, but still!
If I can remember to take a pic of it, I'll try to figure out how to post it up here..

Anybody else have this experience??
Title: Re: Ever shoot a Hard Drive?
Post by: Solus on July 28, 2013, 02:03:56 PM
Never shot one, but before you destroy it, you might want to see if you can open it and remove the rare earth magnets that are probably used in it. 

They are more powerful than standard magnets and might be worth keeping.   Don't know if there is any kind of used market for them.

Title: Re: Ever shoot a Hard Drive?
Post by: alfsauve on July 29, 2013, 07:42:47 AM
you might want to see if you can open it and remove the rare earth magnets that are probably used in it. They are more powerful than standard magnets and might be worth keeping. 

Ditto's on that.   The magnets are good for culling steel cases out of range sweepings.  And they can be used to hold a gun under a desk or cabinet.  Or glue your church key to them and they'll hold them on the 'frigerator.  Or use them for cleaning up metal shavings/filings when working with steel.

I also collect the disks which are almost perfect first surface aluminum mirrors (with a hole in the middle).  use them as reflectors for stage and Christmas decorations.
Title: Re: Ever shoot a Hard Drive?
Post by: Solus on July 29, 2013, 11:57:21 AM
Some time ago I was trying to think of anything useful to do with all the non-needed CDs that accumulate.

All I could come up with is to make a "gun" that will hold a stack of them.  Have them drop onto a spindle that gets them rotating to a high speed, then shoots them out like a rail gun..with the spindle dropping at the muzzle end.

Sounds like the aluminum disks would be an ammo upgrade.
Title: Re: Ever shoot a Hard Drive?
Post by: billt on July 29, 2013, 04:27:37 PM
They're tougher than I thought.

Title: Re: Ever shoot a Hard Drive?
Post by: tombogan03884 on July 29, 2013, 05:00:12 PM
Solus, the shiny surface on a CD is a very thin coat of aluminum .
The rest of the disc is plastic.
Title: Re: Ever shoot a Hard Drive?
Post by: Solus on July 29, 2013, 06:38:47 PM
Solus, the shiny surface on a CD is a very thin coat of aluminum .
The rest of the disc is plastic.

That I know....thus the disk from a hard drive would be an ammo upgrade
Title: Re: Ever shoot a Hard Drive?
Post by: mrmatt2you on July 31, 2013, 07:23:08 PM
I took out a few hard drives to the range to shoot.  I was shocked by just the dent I put on it with my .45.   I was expecting to go right thru it.   Those are a lot tougher than I thought.   I can tell you that when I see someone shoot into the computer on tv or a movie, I know they did not damage crap.   If you do get the chance to do it, I would suggest going out there and doing it.  Fun to see how little damage you actually cause them.
Title: Re: Ever shoot a Hard Drive?
Post by: Solus on July 31, 2013, 07:27:18 PM
I read from an unofficial source ...but I thought it was a serious observation...  that a PC hard drive has a shock rating of 45Gs...

Seemed unbelievable to me...anyone know for sure?
Title: Re: Ever shoot a Hard Drive?
Post by: billt on July 31, 2013, 07:50:38 PM
I once watched a show on how police obtain evidence off hard drives that criminals had thought they had "erased". Most of the data is always recoverable. They said the only way to completely erase a hard drive, was to remove it from the computer, and smash it with a hammer.
Title: Re: Ever shoot a Hard Drive?
Post by: tt11758 on July 31, 2013, 07:57:30 PM
I once watched a show on how police obtain evidence off hard drives that criminals had thought they had "erased". Most of the data is always recoverable. They said the only way to completely erase a hard drive, was to remove it from the computer, and smash it with a hammer.

When you delete a file you only delete the directory.  The data is still there.
Title: Re: Ever shoot a Hard Drive?
Post by: sledgemeister on August 01, 2013, 06:44:35 AM
Hard Drives are for pussies.

Down Under we shoot the damn lot!  :-*
Title: Re: Ever shoot a Hard Drive?
Post by: JoeG on August 01, 2013, 09:04:30 AM
When you delete a file you only delete the directory.  The data is still there.

there are high grade security programs that wipe a drive by recording junk over all of it repeatedly say 6 times to totally wipe the old data. Takes a while but does work.
Title: Re: Ever shoot a Hard Drive?
Post by: billt on August 01, 2013, 10:02:08 AM
there are high grade security programs that wipe a drive by recording junk over all of it repeatedly say 6 times to totally wipe the old data. Takes a while but does work.

I thought there was a program that, "changed all of the zeros and ones to all zeros", or some such. It's hard to believe there isn't a way to completely clean it.
Title: Re: Ever shoot a Hard Drive?
Post by: PegLeg45 on August 01, 2013, 10:50:59 AM
there are high grade security programs that wipe a drive by recording junk over all of it repeatedly say 6 times to totally wipe the old data. Takes a while but does work.

I thought there was a program that, "changed all of the zeros and ones to all zeros", or some such. It's hard to believe there isn't a way to completely clean it.

I used to use Kapersky's Defender-Pro anti virus. The package had a "clean & wipe" program that let the user set the parameters on how extensive the purge was.... it went anywhere from a quick once-over to a seven-layer wipe that was the same style the gubmint uses to overwrite the data to the point that it couldn't be resurrected (which took over seven hours or more).

Title: Re: Ever shoot a Hard Drive?
Post by: tombogan03884 on August 01, 2013, 02:12:34 PM
Kapersky himself is former KGB, he actually bragged about it in an interview with "Wired" magazine.
He was the guy who identified the "Stuxnet" virus that was infecting the Iranian nuke program as being from the CIA .
Title: Re: Ever shoot a Hard Drive?
Post by: Big Frank on August 01, 2013, 02:37:13 PM
I once watched a show on how police obtain evidence off hard drives that criminals had thought they had "erased". Most of the data is always recoverable. They said the only way to completely erase a hard drive, was to remove it from the computer, and smash it with a hammer.

I heard that drilling a few holes through it works too.
Title: Re: Ever shoot a Hard Drive?
Post by: Jrlobo on August 01, 2013, 06:14:25 PM
A little birdie I once knew told me that nitric acid works well. Just don't breath in the fumes, I guess.
Title: Re: Ever shoot a Hard Drive?
Post by: PegLeg45 on August 01, 2013, 07:23:49 PM
Another thing a lot of folks don't know is that many copy machines have hard drives and store images of everything copied on the machine.

http://lifehacker.com/5540834/erase-your-copy-machines-hard-drive-to-wipe-important-documents

http://www.govtech.com/pcio/Are-Digital-Copy-Machines-Really-a.html

Title: Re: Ever shoot a Hard Drive?
Post by: Michael Bane on August 08, 2013, 09:35:37 PM
I ended up using a pick axe on the hard drives, and it was still hard to smash 'em. I'd like to have a car made of Hard Drive Stuff...I could probably drive it through a bridge abutment...

mb
Title: Re: Ever shoot a Hard Drive?
Post by: sledgemeister on August 12, 2013, 10:35:46 AM
I ended up using a pick axe on the hard drives, and it was still hard to smash 'em. I'd like to have a car made of Hard Drive Stuff...I could probably drive it through a bridge abutment...

mb

Here is a thought instead of using trauma plates in body armour use recycled hard drives, the democrats would love the greenness of recycling