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Title: The Japanese Bombed Oregon.
Post by: fightingquaker13 on August 06, 2013, 07:55:36 AM
Here is a bit of WWII trivia I did not know. Apparently in 1942 the Japanese sent folding sub borne mini-planes to bomb the Oregon coast. It's an interesting article.

http://www.dvice.com/2013-5-8/little-known-wwii-bombing-brookings-oregon
Title: Re: The Japanese Bombed Oregon.
Post by: Solus on August 06, 2013, 08:27:33 AM
I knew of the bombing as a trivia fact, but not the story detail, particularly the personal details of the Forest Service observers or the Japanese pilot and city involved.

Our first bombing of the Japanese mainland, by Jimmy Doolittle and his raiders, earlier that year seemed to catch more headlines.
Title: Re: The Japanese Bombed Oregon.
Post by: mortdooley on August 06, 2013, 09:14:28 AM
I didn't know a live pilot flew over the U.S. but I heard that small incendiary bombs were attached to balloons and floated off the coast to start fires.

Most people don't know that there are U-boats sunk in the Gulf of Mexico and off the eastern seaboard.
Title: Re: The Japanese Bombed Oregon.
Post by: alfsauve on August 06, 2013, 09:32:07 AM
Most people don't know that there are U-boats sunk in the Gulf of Mexico and off the eastern seaboard.

I knew.  I knew.  While my dad wasn't involved with maritime operations, he maintained an emergency evacuation field in Statesboro, GA.   In the event of naval attack on Savannah and Hunter Army Air Field, they would evacuate to dad's base, 80 miles inland.
Title: Re: The Japanese Bombed Oregon.
Post by: TAB on August 06, 2013, 12:14:44 PM
THey flew actual planes in alaska
Title: Re: The Japanese Bombed Oregon.
Post by: tombogan03884 on August 06, 2013, 01:53:41 PM
THey flew actual planes in alaska

They had troops in Alaska.
This is the anniversary of the Hiroshima bombing.
Title: Re: The Japanese Bombed Oregon.
Post by: Timothy on August 06, 2013, 05:53:39 PM
They had troops in Alaska.

Specifically the Aleutian island of Attu.
Title: Re: The Japanese Bombed Oregon.
Post by: tombogan03884 on August 07, 2013, 01:58:28 PM
The Island of Kiska as well .
Ever hear of the "Bat bombers" ?
The Japanese attached incendiary bombs to bats, loaded them into balloons with a timed release mechanism and let the prevailing winds do their thing .
Supposedly they did manage to start a couple small fires in the Northwest but nothing significant .
Title: Re: The Japanese Bombed Oregon.
Post by: alfsauve on August 07, 2013, 04:35:14 PM
Ever hear of the "Bat bombers" ?

Early model drones?  Kinda of like our pigeon guided bombs.
Title: Re: The Japanese Bombed Oregon.
Post by: Big Frank on August 07, 2013, 04:58:22 PM
The U.S. tried bat bombs but the bats went into hibernation when the plane got cold at altitude. It was a huge failure.
Title: Re: The Japanese Bombed Oregon.
Post by: Timothy on August 07, 2013, 05:17:37 PM
The U.S. tried bat bombs but the bats went into hibernation when the plane got cold at altitude. It was a huge failure.

Yes, according to wikipoopia, a guy from PA came up with the idea because Japan's building materials were primary wood and paper.
Title: Re: The Japanese Bombed Oregon.
Post by: TAB on August 08, 2013, 01:45:07 AM
we killed way more people in japan with fire bombs then we did with nukes.  I forget the exact number, but it was between 5 and 10x.
Title: Re: The Japanese Bombed Oregon.
Post by: Pathfinder on August 08, 2013, 11:28:40 AM
Curtis Lemay implemented the notion of low-level incendiary attacks on Japan, as Japanese industry was too distributed, almost cottage-level in some cases, to use strategic high-level bombing, which had proven to be quite problematic anyhow in Japan since the winds tended to disrupt the bombing patterns rather seriously.

He tested his idea on Chung-do in western China, one of Japan's major outposts. It worked well. TAB is right, something like 350,000 people were killed in a single incendiary raid on Tokyo, whereas the atomic bombs were like 75,000 - 115,000 direct casualties.

Title: Re: The Japanese Bombed Oregon.
Post by: tombogan03884 on August 08, 2013, 01:48:59 PM
Total casualties from both A bombs were around  250,000.
As Path points out many incendiary raids killed that many or more.