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Member Section => Politics & RKBA => Topic started by: jaybet on August 09, 2013, 01:07:48 PM
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Just saw the news that Christi has signed 10 new gun laws into law. It's bad but not as bad as it sounds because, according to NJ pro gun groups, 2 laws we were FOR, 2 laws we were against, and 6 we were neutral on. For instance, one puts gun owner information off limits for freedom of information searches. One bad one is if you are on the Terrorist Watch List you can't buy a gun in NJ. That's not a bad thing but the watch list is. It's secret and there is no recourse for getting your name OFF of it.
The three really bad laws are still on his desk, and that might be a good sign. One is Sweeney's "kitchen sink" bill that has just a ton of nasty crap in it. Second is a ban on 50 cal rifles (like any of us can afford them), and I'm not sure about the 3rd bill. We're still hoping he's going to go with HIS best interest, which I think he thinks is to try to appease both sides, so he may veto the other bills.
We'll see. I can't believe the GOP is looking at him for POTUS.
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NJ better watch their step on the 50 cal ban....Kalifonia did that some years ago and Ronny Barrett refused to sell KA Cops any of his weapons AND repair/honor any preban weapons.
Also, when the idiots in KA found out they just banned flintlocks because they were 50 cal - things were changed...
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"Its a whale! A great white whale"! Screw Christie. If he gets the nomination I am going fishing on election day.
Though I guess that's a bit it unfair. I can see him being concerned about .50 calibers as they're probably the only thing that could put him down. ;D
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"Its a whale! A great white whale"! Screw Christie. If he gets the nomination I am going fishing on election day.
Though I guess that's a bit it unfair. I can see him being concerned about .50 calibers as they're probably the only thing that could put him down. ;D
He HAS had lap band surgery you know....being a struggling fatty myself I am lenient with him on that issue, but you're right. He certainly is "Big Game". Might take two rounds.
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Crap.
I heard Goodyear tried to hire him to replace the other blimp.
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Crap.
I heard Goodyear tried to hire him to replace the other blimp.
Didn't work out. Good year figured out that Christie won't fly. Lets hope the GOP does the same. ;D
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Christie is like Hillary, lots of noise, no f*cking chance.
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We only hope that's true of both of them. :(
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With the .50 ban still on his desk I think our emotions are wasted right now. That said, if you ever see a .50 ban come to debate keep in mind that it is not just a single firearm they are after. The most popular muzzleloaders and shotguns are .50 and larger.
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yes all those evil people with rifled slug guns, they use them to take out airplanes don't you know.
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There's a qualifier in the 50 cal ban legislation and I don't know enough to report it correctly...there's a velocity level...12k psi? Like only the Barrett type gun would be illegal?
Another wrinkle...if he does not VETO the bills they become law any day now. This may drive me from my home, from the best paying job I ever had, and a super music gig base.
We can stay and fight because frankly there are some really good legal challenges to some of this, but I'm no slave...
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Two things:
#1 We don't want it regardless of the wording or qualifiers;
#2 Every one of these I have researched eventually came down to a bore measurement. The key is in the "and if" and "and or".
When in doubt, refer to rule #1!
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Christi vetoed all three of these insanely stupid bills late yesterday. It's a victory when you stop a lynch mob from hanging an innocent man just because they're pissed. It doesn't help our plight here in NJ but at least right now we are spared the indignities of legal STUPIDITY being foisted on us by ignorant, duplicitous scum.
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Which 3 did he veto ?
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I saw a couple of pathetic stories today.
One was Christie taking a slap at Rand Paul, and the other was Rand Paul taking a slap at Ted Cruz.
Christine said "I can win".. Like John McCain, but with a nicer disposition..
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Which 3 did he veto ?
The main one was Sweeney's "centerpiece bill- a model for the nation" ( a model of arrogant putz with your head in your ass). That was Face to face only ammo sales, no private weapon sales, FID card incorporated into NJ driver's license so every cop who stops you or anyone who sees your DL knows you're an owner...those were the main points. Second was the 50 ban, and third was a bill that required medical and police records to be provided to databases in violation of a number of laws. His argument was, as a former state AG he wanted legislation that addressed violence and it's causes, not ineffective, feel good measures. Gotta give him credit, even though I know the only reason he did it was because that's how he would look best in this situation.
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The main one was Sweeney's "centerpiece bill- a model for the nation" ( a model of arrogant putz with your head in your ass). That was Face to face only ammo sales, no private weapon sales, FID card incorporated into NJ driver's license so every cop who stops you or anyone who sees your DL knows you're an owner...those were the main points. Second was the 50 ban, and third was a bill that required medical and police records to be provided to databases in violation of a number of laws. His argument was, as a former state AG he wanted legislation that addressed violence and it's causes, not ineffective, feel good measures. Gotta give him credit, even though I know the only reason he did it was because that's how he would look best in this situation.
While it is good to hear this from that fat RINO bas*ard if it were true the first thing he would do is repeal most, if not all, of NJ's gun laws since it has been proven over the last 44 years that more restrictions on citizens lead to higher crime rates .
Those like TAB may argue that more guns do not necessarily lead to less crime but there is no possible argument against the fact that fewer guns lead to more crime.
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I wouldn't trust Christi more than I would Hillary.
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I didn't say I trust him. I'm saying we dodged a bullet on these three POS bills.
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Considering the political climate and history of NJ it is only a matter of time, dems are to deeply entrenched to be stopped .
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I didn't say I trust him. I'm saying we dodged a bullet on these three POS bills.
Never thought you did. :) Just making a statement about how bad 2016's gonna be.
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Yeah, It's like Alan Gura says. The 2nd Amendment is at stake in EVERY election.