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Member Section => Down Range Cafe => Topic started by: santahog on September 01, 2013, 12:11:32 AM
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I think this qualifies as a bully throwing a temper tantrum...
>:(
http://gunsnfreedom.com/chicago-police-superintendent-says-cops-will-shoot-gun-carrying-citizens-because-of-his-training/
Chicago Police Superintendent Says Cops Will Shoot Gun Carrying Citizens Because of His Training
August 30, 2013 by Jonathan S. · 228 Comments
garry mcarthy chicago police superintendent predicts gun carrying citizens will be shot
Chicago police superintendent Garry McCarthy is not happy about the new concealed carry laws in Illinois. And now he is predicting that police will shoot citizens who are lawfully carrying firearms.
During an interview with WVON radio McCarthy made some very bold statements that show his disdain for the 2nd amendment.
“You put more guns on the street expect more shootings,” McCarthy said. “I don’t care if they’re licensed legal firearms, people who are not highly trained… putting guns in their hands is a recipe for disaster. So I’ll train our officers that there is a concealed carry law, but when somebody turns with a firearm in their hand the officer does not have an obligation to wait to get shot to return fire and we’re going to have tragedies as a result of that. I’m telling you right up front.”
While every cop has a right to protect himself, this bold statement by McCarthy is obviously meant to intimidate gun owners who choose to exercise their rights. This threat that cops may mistakenly shoot a gun carrying citizen is just another attempt to fight the concealed carry laws that Illinois has long been deprived of.
McCarthy would not say what specific training officers will undertake if any. However, he did admit that in the past his department has made mistakes in shooting unarmed civilians. He believes the concealed carry law will increase those types of unfortunate incidents.
“You say concealed carry I say Trayvon Martin. Police officers make mistakes all the time,” McCarthy said. “We spend six months in the police academy, six months of field training and ongoing training on a regular basis and the fact is once in a while we’re going to shoot someone with a cellphone; we’re going to shoot somebody with a flashlight and none of that is okay. But now you take John Q. Civilian, you give them six weeks or 10 weeks of training and you say ‘have at it?’ The fact is more guns are not the solution to the firearm gun violence problem in this country. Less guns and reasonable gun laws are. And just because it’s 49 states to one doesn’t mean the state of Illinois is wrong on that one.”
So McCarthy is slamming gun carrying citizens for not having the training of a police officer, and yet he predicts that his heavily trained cops will be shooting law abiding gun carrying citizens. Makes sense?
Perhaps if cops in Chicago worried less about the law abiding citizen’s rights and more about the gangs and criminals that are ignoring gun laws, the windy city would be a safer place.
Chicago has some of the strictest gun laws in the nation. This is a gun control haven. And yet in 2012 there were 2,364 shooting incidents.
While it’s a sad truth that police officers do sometime make mistakes and shoot the wrong person, predicting that his training will result in gun carrying citizens being shot is way over the line.
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I don't know this guy or much about him, but from this and other statements he has made in the last year he seems like pretty much a talking penis with a fancy badge.
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I don't know this guy or much about him, but from this and other statements he has made in the last year he seems like pretty much a talking penis with a fancy badge.
Interesting that you put it that way..
I called out a guy on FB last week who said that "At least he had the balls to say it", talking about "somebody ought to do something" about the race based killings that are going on around the country. Thing is, he was speaking as a racist, himself.. I quizzed him about the difference between "Jesse and Al" ginning up this crap on one side versus ginning it up on the other side, and suggesting that "balls only say dick", and that banging away at a keyboard doesn't really take alot of fortitude, especially when he lives in an area that is so small and white that the potential negative consequences are negligible..
He got pissed... ::)
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So basically this cop is saying Chitcago's civilians should be denied the rights guaranteed every citizens of every other city and State in the nation because Chitcago cops lack judgement and their training sucks ?
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So basically this cop is saying Chitcago's civilians should be denied the rights guaranteed every citizens of every other city and State in the nation because Chitcago cops lack judgement and their training sucks ?
It's the Chicago way.
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So basically this cop is saying Chitcago's civilians should be denied the rights guaranteed every citizens of every other city and State in the nation because Chitcago cops lack judgement and their training sucks ?
Actually, what he is saying to his troops is that there will be no consequences for them if they shoot somebody who is exercising their Constitutional rights.
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One must live hopefully .
Does Jesse Jackson carry ?
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Actually I see it as warning that cops are a clear and present threat to those legally carrying a firearm by nature of the training the city has given them.
Not only is it much of the justification for a defensive use of your firearm, it is also the basis for a suit.
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I guess it goes without saying that they train on these..
http://freedomoutpost.com/2013/02/dhs-supplier-sells-targets-of-american-gun-owners/
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he just opened up the city's checkbook to the first CCW they shoot without cause. His statements will be treated as evidence of premeditated malice by any attorney worth hiring. Shop the case to the right jury pool and you have a winner.
Like Heinlein said: "If you are lucky you get the government that you deserve." maybe this is why they call it the windy city.
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Actually, what he is saying to his troops is that there will be no consequences for them if they shoot somebody who is exercising their Constitutional rights.
As Ichi noted: "It's the Chicago way."
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What a Putz. I agree with JoeG, this guy just set the city up big time. Of course the CPD hasn't been all that tough on the illegally armed gangbangers but maybe they wont be so scared of people they know are honest citizens. Its always easier to pick on the law abbidding and leave the real bad guys to pray on the public. CPD officers should demand his head, or hang their heads in shame. >:(
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What a Putz. I agree with JoeG, this guy just set the city up big time. Of course the CPD hasn't been all that tough on the illegally armed gangbangers but maybe they wont be so scared of people they know are honest citizens. Its always easier to pick on the law abbidding and leave the real bad guys to pray on the public. CPD officers should demand his head, or hang their heads in shame. >:(
If they haven't showed any shame over the last century of corruption they aren't going to start now.