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Member Section => Handguns => Topic started by: DaverZ on May 23, 2008, 11:02:49 PM
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Got tired of waiting,cancled my order and picked up an FN9,cant wait to try it out.
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You're going to enjoy the FNP9. I do believe my FNP9 is more accurate than my SR9 but it's been so long since I've shot the SR9 it's difficult to recall. Once they get the trigger issue resolved I would recommend adding a SR9 to your collection - it's hard to have too many high capacity 9mms.
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I wanted a P3AT in .380, and was told by my local gun shop "Get on the list" No mention how long it would take. Just like the SR9 and the LCP.
So, I went to GunsAmerica.com. shopped around and found dealers with plenty of them all. Called the 800 number for AJC Sports in Texas, spoke with a very professional salesman, and had one transferred for $25 to my local gun shop. Had it in 3 days.
Congratulations on the FN9, heard good things about them.
I just can't "get on the list", when they are out there. 8)
Happy Memorial Day.
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I picked up my FNP9 from Gunbrokers.com. Even after the $20 shipping and $20 the local FFT charged to handle it I still got it for less than what the local gun shop wanted (not including sales tax that would have been tacked on to it as well). And the one I got had night sites whereas the local ones did not. There are only three places in town to buy hand guns and while I am a firm believer in supporting the local business community they have to do their part in staying competitive as well.
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I just can't "get on the list", when they are out there. 8)
Happy Memorial Day.
Yes, except the SR9s that are out there are probably all on the recall notice. So you CAN order them and get them but (according to Ruger) they shouldn't be loaded or fired until corrected in the recall. So they'll SELL you a recalled gun, but you assume a large liability if you take it to a public place and fire it.
I'm not tired of them not shipping SR9s. I'm tired of them not fixing mine.
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......I'm not tired of them not shipping SR9s. I'm tired of them not fixing mine.
Me too. I hope they can provide a really good, world class trigger after having to go back the 2nd time (not enough time to do it right the first time????). If I can get a great trigger I'll buy another so...I'm attempting to be patient from time to time in hopes of having something better than I bought.
I like the feel of the weapon so well in addition to it's weight that it would be a shame to discontinue it.
Oh...one more thing...redesign the levers. Add a little length to them so they can be operated with less force...this plus a good trigger and I will definitely buy another one or two (gotta have something in the hopper to pass down after the new administration comes in).
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My gun dealer had it marked at 499.00,but ive bought several guns there,told me he'd make me a sweet deal on it,said 465.00,i yelled SOLD.the rest is history lol
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since the sr9 was my first handgun purchase i'm slightly partial to it. howerver the recall did slightly shake my faith in ruger. i hope that they begin to ship soon.. they quoted me the end of this month begining of next... they said they were having difficulties with the retro-fit, and that they were going to ship the boxes in several waves in order to prevent a large stock of the pistols sitting in the factory waiting to get fixed.
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I had a soft spot in my heart for the Browning BDM, hoping it would be the HiPower of the 80's, but despite its goodness (great handle, good capacity, DA/SA) it was relegated to curiosity.
I never touched the Forty-Nine, but it didn't impress me or the buying public much.
I hope the FNP series gets the monster boost of its sheer quality in an era where "HK hates you, and you suck" might turn them off of the extremely similar USP. Again - great handle, great capacity, great controls, and it comes in two-tone (HK sucks for dropping the stainless slides on their USPs).
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took it out to the range today,i was impressed,great trigger pull and not one hiccup in the 100 rounds of wwb
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With the quality of the FNH product line i cant understand why they're not more popular,even the fit and finish are great
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so back to the sr9 shipping its the end of may begining of june, any one get an update on the boxes for the sr9's?
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I'm reporting that my box still is not here. My SR9 has now been recalled for 2 times longer than I was able to use it.
I officially admit that I'm whining. Boo hoo, dammit! I want to shoot my SR9!
Thanks Ruger! You can bet that I'm gonna run right out and buy the next slick lookin' gun you come out with.
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Rumor has it they will be sending out our boxes mid-June and will ship guns later in the month. Just rumor at this point and I would not be surprised to see that date move a little. While I want to see it done once and done right, I think they are disappointing their customers with their inability to get the retrofits done quicker.
On the other hand, if they had been able to turn a retrofit in an inordinately short period of time it would lead one to think that they may have released a gun with a known/suspected problem and had anticipated a recall. Damned if you do, damned if you don't.
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Honestly I wish they'd buy mine back. I'll even eat the tax. There are too many good guns out there to be sitting around with your thumb up your butt waiting to use something that 's brand new. I just haven't had very good luck with Ruger, contrary to their reputation.
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Still have my SR9.
Still carry it every day.
Just used it at an IDPA Classifier a week or so ago.
I carry with the safety on all the time, and only take it off when I'm about to shoot, about to clean, or about to otherwise break the gun down.
Whenever I finally get my recall box, I'll send it in. Until then, I'll rely on the safety between my ears and not fret about any 'drop' safety.
-JT
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Hmmm... I wouldn't do that. If there's ever an accident of any kind, YOU will be considered the schmuck that was carrying around the "defective" (read "dangerously dangerous") firearm. It's your decision, after all Ruger says that "some" of the guns "may" discharge if dropped, but if anything every happens no matter how innocent or strange....it's all gonna be on you. Because Ruger also says, "Do not load or fire your SR9 until corrected".
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Here is the last bit of the recall warning:
"Do not load or fire your pistol until it has been factory retrofitted with these new parts! If you must fire your pistol, be sure to keep the manual safety in the "on" or "safe" position except when you are actually firing."
-JT
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I personally still wouldn't carry it simply b/c of legal responsibilities. When ever you carry a gun in a lawsuit happy society such as ours, you need to do everything you can to reduce any and all possibilities of leaving yourself open to being sued.
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I personally still wouldn't carry it simply b/c of legal responsibilities. When ever you carry a gun in a lawsuit happy society such as ours, you need to do everything you can to reduce any and all possibilities of leaving yourself open to being sued.
true i mean carrying a gun today is a big enough responsibility, why take more hassel and stress with a weapon that may or may not work propertly? if it goes off when it falls it could go off if you fall and land on it, just a thought
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No shipping boxes in Oklahoma yet, either. But...I'm sure there will be. Maybe they are working to get a world class trigger system in it.....that would be kewl. The dang thing is so light and thin it's a cryin' shame to have such a lousy trigger. I went over to www.best9mm.com (which, by the way is a pretty fair reference) and they had the SR9 ranked #15 only because of the stinking trigger...they thought it could be ultimate 9MM with a good trigger....duh....
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When you carry a 1911 "cocked and locked", and you drop it, it can also discharge. I don't see the hardcore 1911 guys obssesing about it. Was the Ruger recall caused by an actual event/lawsuit, or are they just covering their ass ? If you carry a gun and have to use it, you are going to get sued. By the perp's surviving family members or the state, you are going to be legally assaulted. If you can't handle that, don't carry. If I had a SR9, recall or not, it would have 500 rounds through it by now. I don't buy em to look at. I buy em to shoot, and I make sure I'm damn good at it.
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Here is the last bit of the recall warning:
"Do not load or fire your pistol until it has been factory retrofitted with these new parts! If you must fire your pistol, be sure to keep the manual safety in the "on" or "safe" position except when you are actually firing."
-JT
I'm not trying to be argumentive and I hate lawyers, but when they say, "...if you must fire your pistol," that doesn't mean to load it and carry it and, well, maybe have to use it some day. That means if you MUST...not if you prefer to or think you can or whatever.
If your pickup is recalled because the right front wheel will fall off and you ignore the recall notices and your wheel falls off and you crash and kill someone that's no longer an accident, it's negligent manslaughter. Or if you go to the range with a recalled weapon the other people at the range or the range master have every right to tell you to take it the hell back and put it in the car. Recalled anything is "grounded until further notice".
Of course, you can do what you want. Having said that, I took MINE to the empty back end of the range a couple of weeks ago and put 200 rounds through it. But that's not the same as carrying the thing.
I'd use my next favorite to carry 'till Ruger finally nuts up and fixes these damn things. I really like mine- I would like to feel free to use it as it was intended, but like someone else said here...if you use your weapon you will get sued, but that's not the same as having an accident because you bring something into the mix that was recalled by the manufacturer. That's a whole other ball of wax, and a bad one at that for the guy with the SR9.
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Thankfully, I live in a state that protects people who use their guns in self-defense. In the unfortunate chance that I do need to use my gun in self-defense, and the shooting is deemed a legitimate self-defense shoot, I CANNOT have a civil suit brought against me, per state statute.
And I'll refrain from doing cartwheels whilst I carry the thing.
Happy?
Actually, I don't care.
My gun. For my safety. My responsibility.
Deal.
-JT
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Thankfully, I live in a state that protects people who use their guns in self-defense. In the unfortunate chance that I do need to use my gun in self-defense, and the shooting is deemed a legitimate self-defense shoot, I CANNOT have a civil suit brought against me, per state statute.
And I'll refrain from doing cartwheels whilst I carry the thing.
Happy?
Actually, I don't care.
My gun. For my safety. My responsibility.
Deal.
-JT
Actually you can't have a lawsuit brought against you for using a gun that is in good working order, and using it in a responsible way..... there still is a liability involved in carrying a gun that is on a recall list, and using one in self defense or at the range or what ever may be considered negligent use of a firearm...... and as per Ruger, the SR9 is going to be prone to accidental discharge until it is serviced. It doesn't take a high caliber lawyer to figure that one out.
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Do you know what state I live in?
Do you know my state's laws?
Ruger states that the gun will NOT fire when dropped when the safety is ON. The occasional drop-fires can only occur if the safety is OFF.
As stated before, my gun's safety is ON until I need to fire the gun, or break it down for cleaning/maintenance.
So, if my gun goes off, it's because I took the safety off and I pulled the trigger. If someone gets shot because of that, it's because I meant to shoot them. Since I will only purposely shoot someone in a self-defense situation, MY state's laws will protect me from any civil shoot. The gun having a drop safety issue would be completely and utterly immaterial in the matter.
But I don't have to justify myself to you, and I'm 100% confident that I won't have to justify myself to any court of law. Furthermore, I know how to use the safety between my ears.
'nuff said.
-JT
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Do you know what state I live in?
Do you know my state's laws?
Ruger states that the gun will NOT fire when dropped when the safety is ON. The occasional drop-fires can only occur if the safety is OFF.
As stated before, my gun's safety is ON until I need to fire the gun, or break it down for cleaning/maintenance.
So, if my gun goes off, it's because I took the safety off and I pulled the trigger. If someone gets shot because of that, it's because I meant to shoot them. Since I will only purposely shoot someone in a self-defense situation, MY state's laws will protect me from any civil shoot. The gun having a drop safety issue would be completely and utterly immaterial in the matter.
But I don't have to justify myself to you, and I'm 100% confident that I won't have to justify myself to any court of law. Furthermore, I know how to use the safety between my ears.
'nuff said.
-JT
I really wasn't thinking about a perfect world where you are in complete control of your gun and nothing ever happens by chance or accident. If you use the gun responsibily and your state will protect you- that's super. I'm saying if some accident happens... something no one would have ever anticipated or could plan for. Basically something accidental. At that point, it doesn't matter why or how or who's fault- it will boil down to the fact that you were carrying a weapon that was recalled, and your ass is hanging out.
It's like drinking and driving in that if you've had one beer and your driving and the space shuttle comes down and crashes into you making your car hit another car...it's YOUR fault period because you had a beer. If someone rear ends you its YOUR fault because you had a beer- period.
Same with the recall. I am not un-happy that you are carrying your SR9- thank God you can carry. AND I don't doubt your abilites and I doubt you'll ever have any problems in the responsible use of the SR9. What I'm trying to say, that really doesn't reflect on your abilites at all, is that when that fluke occurance comes along, that freak incident, every cop, DA, and lawyer within a hundred miles will point to your recalled pistol.
That's when you just pucker up.
But yes I'm happy, thanks for asking.
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Dont get yourself in a tizzy, JT
We are not trying to tell you what to do. The whole discussion is really just all academic. I was just saying that for all of the above stated reason that I personally would not feel comfortable carrying the SR9, or taking it to a public range until I had it serviced.
Go right ahead and do what you think is best.
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JT. If you hang around here a little longer you will see this is different place to sit and talk about what we love to do. I have yet too see any bashing on opinions here only friendly discussions. You will find that there is different flavor to this site. I've visited other forums and some of the opinion bashing is enough to make you puke! So kick back and enjoy. ;) I know I do. Oh! by the way WELCOME.
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Wisconsin is right, don't take this stuff personal. I have had some pretty heated discusions with individuals on this site, then guess who comes through when I need advice, and vice versa.
None of us are questioning your gun handling skills, or safety practices, It seems to me that the recall was issued for a nit picking reason to make Ca. lawyers happy. The arguments against your carrying the SR9 are based on OTHER peoples perception that "Oh my god, he's carring a recalled fire arm". :o Your home state and it's laws don't matter, any lawyer that handled a case against you would jump on the fact of a recall as a method of showing the jury "Your Irresponsible nature". Remember, in a civil trial the rules are differant, the lawyer needs to CONVINCE A JURY not PROVE TO A JURY, and it's a REALLY big differance. Thats how John Edwards made his fortune "channeling" dead children in a malpractice suit. ??? And don't take offense to the CAPITAL letters, I don't have bold, or italic options in the quick reply box so I use capitals for that purpose. Also, like Wisconsin said, WELCOME to the zoo ;D
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Hi guys, I've got a sr-9 Ithink it is worth the wait, they do shoot great & feel good in my hand. Yes ruger has a recall on them but you can still take it to the range and shoot them . The recall is for the drop safety only!!!! Meaning that if you drop the firearm and it is off safe it very well could fire, but other then that it's ok..!!!!! people need to get all of the scoop first before they judge something. I've shoot mine with NO NO problems. I think ruger out done them selfs with this firearm...!!!!!!! If you don't belive me try one for your self......