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Member Section => Tactical Rifle & Carbine => Topic started by: Rastus on September 28, 2013, 07:47:07 PM
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I have been looking for a low to mid priced optic for my completed DMR project. Lacking $1,000...I've found the Burris MTAC 1.5 x 6 power scope...it's 12.2 inches long and fairly light.
I'm thinking the 1.5 power with illuminated reticle may allow me to use it as a dot in a pinch. I like the BDC that's in it and the top power is plenty at 6 since it's a DMR and not a true precision rifle build. I also like the 30 MM tube and the fact that the objective is 40 or 42 MM and not a "straight tube" that provides no help at all in low light.
Does anyone here have any experience with one of these before I actually plunk down the cash for this thing?
Thanks,
Ken
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Oh yeah, here is what I want to put it on!
(http://i603.photobucket.com/albums/tt114/RastusNR/ARBuild.jpg)
Mag Tactical Lower, FailZero upper and carrier (they no longer offer the upper), Geissele trigger and forestock, Wilson 18 inch bbl and Magpul PRS stock and pistol grip, Phase 5 Sling swivel and with Noveske flip up sights.
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For a .223, I would suggest the 1-4 MTAC over the 1.5-6. I own every single offering in the MTAC line and I honestly think they are the absolute best line of scopes for the money, bar none.
The 1-4 MTAC on a .223 is good out to 600 yards. It is what I use on my match 3G rifle and I have placements in the top 10 on long range stages at majors, even though I am not a top shooter. The reason I say go with the 1-4 over the 1.5-6 is because of the true 1x. Inside 50 yards, the 1x is faster on target and transitions and is SO much better for shooting both eyes open.
My 1.5-6 sits on a .450BM I use for hunting and so close in speed on multiple targets is not needed (I hope).
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I was looking hard at the Burris for my build. Until I came across Vortex.
This is what I put on mine, and I couldn't be happier.
(http://www.vortexoptics.com/admin/includes/thumbnail_generator.php?maxw=300&img=rfl_pst_1-4x24_moa_fr-t.jpg)
It's the PST 1-4 x 24 illuminated reticle.
Also not priced out of range. I used a Burris P.E.P.R. Mount and the whole set up cost me right at $700. Plus the "slightly" modified M&P 15 of course.
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I ended up with the MTAC for $358. I just ran it a Larry Vicker's carbine course and it worked very well. It was an experiment for me before outlaying big $$$'s. One of the things I got from the class is that the Vortex HD at around $1,500 is almost as good as $2,500 scopes and a lot more affordable. If I ever get the $$$$'s, I'm going to look really closely at one of those.
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One of the things I got from the class is that the Vortex HD at around $1,500 is almost as good as $2,500 scopes and a lot more affordable.
$1500.00???????? I only spent $600.00 for the optic AND the mount.
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$1500.00???????? I only spent $600.00 for the optic AND the mount.
Is it an HD?
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Is it an HD?
I don't believe it is.
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For a .223, I would suggest the 1-4 MTAC over the 1.5-6. I own every single offering in the MTAC line and I honestly think they are the absolute best line of scopes for the money, bar none.
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I have old eyes...but I really would like to have the 1x power on the lower end. It's OK...but it is also troublesome to keep both eyes open at any magnification....still it works for me just not so well as 1x would. Maybe they will hit it with a 1x6 and if I remember right the 1 power scopes were only 30MM objectives?
Another reason for opting for the 1.5 power was because I could get the 40MM objective over the 30MM which is a significant 75% or so increased light gathering ability that makes morning sightings earlier and evening sightings later. So...still I'd like to see that with a 1 x option.
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I really would like to have the 1x power on the lower end. It's OK...but it is also troublesome to keep both eyes open at any magnification...
I fully agree with this. I had a straight 3 power Burris on my AR before switching to the Vortex. When I was in close (keeping both eyes open) I always had to compensate my aim point to adjust for the parallax from the magnification.
Adjusting for the offset was simple enough, but because of the magnification I was usually hitting 3-4 inches further to the right or left of my aim point. Which meant one more thing to have to compensate for. When I was under a clock it just didn't work for me, so I sold it, and picked up the Vortex. Now I am in optics heaven. :)