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Member Section => Down Range Cafe => Topic started by: santahog on September 29, 2013, 07:55:16 AM
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I haven't had a chance to watch this yet, but I thought it would be good fodder for the group..
(So, for those of you who aren't headed to church, a little something for you too!!! ;) )
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Short answer? No. I'd rather write a check to the libs welfare BS than surrender essential liberty to a theocrat. Sorry Santa, but if I had one bullet and a get out of jail free card, and was on an elevator with Pelosi and Pat Robertson, she'd live to get another tax payer subsidized face lift. Of course, if it weren't for her policies I'd be able to afford two bullets, but that's the price we libertarians pay.
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Short answer? No. I'd rather write a check to the libs welfare BS than surrender essential liberty to a theocrat. Sorry Santa, but if I had one bullet and a get out of jail free card, and was on an elevator with Pelosi and Pat Robertson, she'd live to get another tax payer subsidized face lift. Of course, if it weren't for her policies I'd be able to afford two bullets, but that's the price we libertarians pay.
Darn.
I agree with FQ ,(more or less ).
How boring.
As I have been saying for some time, conservative morality is no better than liberal morality, neither have any place in politics which is purely about POWER.
If you want to beat the liberal fiscal insanity quit acting like the "Christian Taliban" and focus on the real issues.
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EXactly, the religous morals of the gop drive the moderate away.
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Holy crap! Quick, get the kids, its the end times! TAB, Tom and I agree. I knew I shouldn't have blown off church to go fishing this morning. ;D
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Has me worried too....
No way three broken clocks can all be right at exactly the same time. ;D
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Did any watch the video? I wonder because the two Libertarian speakers were very "OK" with working with conservatives.
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Did any watch the video? I wonder because the two Libertarian speakers were very "OK" with working with conservatives.
I didn't. However, I can work with social conservatives. The question is, can they, work with me!
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I didn't. However, I can work with social conservatives. The question is, can they, work with me!
That would have been my reply as well.
As long as they let me have control of the internal security services I can work with any one .
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Short answer? No. I'd rather write a check to the libs welfare BS than surrender essential liberty to a theocrat. Sorry Santa, but if I had one bullet and a get out of jail free card, and was on an elevator with Pelosi and Pat Robertson, she'd live to get another tax payer subsidized face lift. Of course, if it weren't for her policies I'd be able to afford two bullets, but that's the price we libertarians pay.
And the faux libertarian picks the wrong target yet again! ;)
The difference between the two - which your emotions clouded for you - is that Pelosi is actually dangerous, in a position (as you hinted at in the end of your post about "her policies") to destroy any form of liberty in this country, as she often does. Robertson is a blow-hard with limited, if any, impact.
Today, you routinely surrender all form of liberty to the "libs (sic) welfare BS" seemingly without a problem, yet are willing to rail against a "theocrat".
May the scales fall from your eyes, there, FQ, at least maybe someday.
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Robertson is selling something. Pelosi is taking things.
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Robertson is selling something. Pelosi is taking things.
I think what Pelosi is taking is drugs.
You can't get that stupid naturally.
I hope.
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I don't know Tom, I'm close....just in the opposite direction from her.
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EXactly, the religous morals of the gop drive the moderate amoral away.
There were three to pick from. This was the easiest.. The others weren't any "deeper", just a little more self explanatory..
FQ, really.. So much for the noble savage, (er, uh, libertarian ideal).. "Take your pay and give me my kibble so I can can stand in rebellion against authority untied from responsibility".. Sheesh.. At least you're consistent.. You never make sense when the room gets a little cramped.
Tom.. "The follower".. HAH!!! "Give me liberty, as long as I get to make the rules and be in charge of the Police, or give me my kibble."
You guys are something else... ::)
I needed a laugh tonight! Thanks!!
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I have never understood why my compliance with your mostly silly laws is not enough for you all!
Why do I have to Believe the same stuff as you? This has always made me crazy about both parties. the only way to get along is pick between silly miss sunshine or fire and brimstone sin and shame.
Respect my differences or get the F off my cloud or my hardened bunker with gun ports whichever you force me build!
I used to hope that having a frontier was not required for us to have a polite and free society, but that hope is mostly dead any more. If you are an inventive thought deviate you must get away from the lock step fools, getting harder to do every day.
joe
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I have never understood why my compliance with your mostly silly laws is not enough for you all!
Why do I have to Believe the same stuff as you? This has always made me crazy about both parties. the only way to get along is pick between silly miss sunshine or fire and brimstone sin and shame.
Respect my differences or get the F off my cloud or my hardened bunker with gun ports whichever you force me build!
I used to hope that having a frontier was not required for us to have a polite and free society, but that hope is mostly dead any more. If you are an inventive thought deviate you must get away from the lock step fools, getting harder to do every day.
joe
Because most of these so called "Christians" aren't any different than the Taliban, except they haven't got guts enough for head chopping.
Look back in History, the very idea of going to war over religion is a Christian concept that was adopted by Mohammed when he was dreaming up Islam.
They called it a "crusade", he called it "jihad".
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People have been going to war for their version of god for a long time well before Christ. I am not against going to war if we have to but lets be smart and follow SunTsu's advice when we do it. don't believe your own press clippings and cheat whenever you can!
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Yep. The idea that I have to swallow freedom to defend my paycheck ain't going to happen. And for the record, I am getting no kibbles.
Likewise, I don't want to hand over my money, but money comes and goes. Once freedoms gone, it stays gone. So sorry Santa, I ain't buying your spiel.
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Yep. The idea that I have to swallow freedom to defend my paycheck ain't going to happen. And for the record, I am getting no kibbles.
Likewise, I don't want to hand over my money, but money comes and goes. Once freedoms gone, it stays gone. So sorry Santa, I ain't buying your spiel.
But you'll do Falwell and leave Pelosi in charge of your life and the whole world, feeding you what she deems appropriate, just like she does today..
Okay.. Yeah, you're free, but she's still got the monopoly on the kibble. You can say that you shot the preacher though. She'll hook you up for that, as long as you leave her "throned". She's not any safer because you offed her enemy in the elevator. Folks are like that..
You're not buying it from me, but you still bought it..
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Santa, who the f*ck are you to judge FQ or I ?
Jesus may have died, but he didn't leave you in charge.
The comments in this thread simply underline your bigotry.
Govt has no place in my personal life whether from some know it all like Pelosi, or a self righteous ass like you.
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Santa, who the f*ck are you to judge FQ or I ?
Jesus may have died, but he didn't leave you in charge.
The comments in this thread simply underline your bigotry.
Govt has no place in my personal life whether from some know it all like Pelosi, or a self righteous ass like you.
Tom, Santa is the f..k a member of this forum, just like you and I, and is free to express his opinion. The fact that he is right about FQ having "bought" from Pelosi is right on the money IMHO, and certainly unworthy of your outburst.
You've been challenged before about shooting your mouth off and driving forum members away, and yet we still see nothing from you other than these tantrums periodically.
Like FQ, you are little more than an ungracious faux libertarian, at least on this forum.
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Path buy a clue . In your world there are two kinds of people, conservatives (defined as those that agree with you) and liberals ( Godless America hating scum bags). Here's a news flash. The world is a bigger place than that. There are those of us, a lot of us, who don't fit into your boxes. And when we contradict you, you try to force us into the liberal box as its all you know. So, when I say I don't agree with you; you and Santa think I'm Nancy's boy. I don't think she'd agree, and neither would you if you took a moment to read my many posts. Your problem is that you're so involved in trench warfare with socialists that you react with shock, consternation, and outrage when you're hit from your flank by a neutral force that despises socialists and theocrats equally. You don't have to love us, but if you're honest, you'll admit that we don't fit into your boxes and stand with Jefferson, Payne, Locke and Madison and we, quite frankly are far more American than the Robertson's and Pelosi's of this world. What pisses you, Santa, and Rastus off is that we are challenging you both as Americans and Christians. We aren't letting you have the title of being the voice of Christian America uncontested. This outrages you, because if you aren't a conservative, you're one of them. Get over it. Realize that there are three dogs in this fight. We are on no party's side. We'll choose temporary allies, but make no mistake, the only agenda we have is our own.
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Tom, Santa is the f..k a member of this forum, just like you and I, and is free to express his opinion. The fact that he is right about FQ having "bought" from Pelosi is right on the money IMHO, and certainly unworthy of your outburst.
You've been challenged before about shooting your mouth off and driving forum members away, and yet we still see nothing from you other than these tantrums periodically.
Like FQ, you are little more than an ungracious faux libertarian, at least on this forum.
Path, if you were anything more than a big mouth blow hard hiding behind an anonymous screen name you would come up with something to back your bigoted point of view.
GFY.
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Ok, I'm going to be an objective political scientist here. Santa asked can social conservatives and libertarians get along. Using this thread as a representative sample? I'd say the answer is not only no, but hell no. ;D
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Path, if you were anything more than a big mouth blow hard hiding behind an anonymous screen name you would come up with something to back your bigoted point of view.
GFY.
Read, "Yeah, well f..k you too!"
Path, I think you won... ;D
I was gonna try to reply but this is just too rich!! I was feeling pretty low till I read this! This is the best giggle I've had in days!! I love it!!! That really is funny!! That's hysterical!! I was all dreading this thing and this is the best laugh I could have dreamed for!!
"GFY".. That's intelligent!!
Hit em again, Tom!! Hit em again!!
Ohhh I feel better!! HAAA!!!
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Take a deep breath, boys....
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Take a deep breath, boys....
Thanks Marshall, we needed that. However, I will say that the fact that Dad had to threaten to "stop this car" is a pretty good indication that social conservatives and libertarians are not a good mix on anything more than an issue by issue basis. If its a comfort to the conservatives, we don't mix much better with the libs. I mean you can be dancing with a hippy chick at a pro-legalization rally, her hands wander, you're thinking good thoughts, then she feels the Glock and recoils like she was snakebit (and its not because she was a 1911 fan either ;D). So you get the anti-gun diatribe if you want to listen to it. Me, I don't want to get laid that bad and just walk away. Such is the life of a libertarian. ;)
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It's good to know that you're not looking at me, thinking about getting laid.. :o ::)
My pocket gun doesn't take well to strangers rubbing on it.. :-\
(I'm good, btw.. I'm not bothered too by it! I knew what she was when I picked her up!)
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Ok, I'm going to be an objective political scientist here. Santa asked can social conservatives and libertarians get along. Using this thread as a representative sample? I'd say the answer is not only no, but hell no. ;D
Pretty safe bet ROFLMAO.