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Title: AR15
Post by: DaverZ on September 29, 2013, 04:03:53 PM
I know I'm gonna get flamed but here goes.Today I traded an ATI 1911 and a Colt 1991A1 that I traded a 250 dollar 30/30 for, for a Smith and Wesson AR15,unfortunately I can't pick it up until after 5 on Tuesday.With my Ruger SR45 having light primer strikes and the mag disconnect going south today has been a mixed bag.I'm going to ship the SR45 back to ruger as soon as I can get a shipping label and I'm going to miss it while it's gone cause I shoot it well.
Title: Re: AR15
Post by: alfsauve on September 29, 2013, 04:24:01 PM
No dis'ing here. You have to make the best with what you got and what you want.  Yeah, we'd all like to never sell a gun, but reality says otherwise.

Hope that ar works out really well.
Title: Re: AR15
Post by: Big Frank on September 29, 2013, 04:30:51 PM
AR15s are like 10/22s. Everyone should own one.
Title: Re: AR15
Post by: ellis4538 on September 29, 2013, 04:31:06 PM
+1 on hoping it works out for you!  Unfortunately, I had to sell my AR and ammo and am trying to sell some other things just because.......


Richard

PS:  Finally I found someplace to shoot the AR I don't have anymore!
Title: Re: AR15
Post by: Majer on September 29, 2013, 06:04:13 PM
AR15s are like 10/22s. Everyone should own at least one.

FIFY
Title: Re: AR15
Post by: DaverZ on September 29, 2013, 06:44:04 PM
Unfortunately SSDI doesn't pay a great deal so I have to sell to buy,I really didn't need 4-45s.two 9s,2-45s,a 357,a Mossberg 500 and now the  S&W AR 15 I'd say I have everything I might need
Title: Re: AR15
Post by: alfsauve on September 29, 2013, 09:11:47 PM
AR15s are like 10/22s. Everyone should own one.

or 2. 
Title: Re: AR15
Post by: TAB on September 29, 2013, 11:45:00 PM
I will never own a 10/22.   ( or atleast buy one)
Title: Re: AR15
Post by: MikeBjerum on September 30, 2013, 06:28:06 AM
I will never own a 10/22.   ( or atleast buy one)

And for some reason that statement does not surprise me
Title: Re: AR15
Post by: marzie on September 30, 2013, 09:29:48 AM
I will never own a 10/22.   ( or atleast buy one)

I probably shouldn't ask, but why?
Title: Re: AR15
Post by: TAB on September 30, 2013, 11:13:34 AM
THey are not very accurate in stock form. ( seen tons of stock model 60s out shoot $1000 10/22)   they don't fit me very well.  I don't like the way they feel/ lay out/mags.    every one has one.      there are many better options out there in repaeting 22s.     why would I want a honda civic, when for the same( or less) i could have a lincoln?
Title: Re: AR15
Post by: MikeBjerum on September 30, 2013, 12:03:38 PM
If you've got the bucks for a truck gun that is fine.  However, I am glad for a .22lr that will shoot under 2" at 100 yards regardless of the crap you put it through.  Trouble free rotary magazines that are easily changed by feel and don't create a snag issue when moving around in the vehicle or field is an asset.  But, to each his own.  I can bounce the 10/22 around the backseat of the pick up 12 months of the year, plink with it, feed it any ammunition I can find, shoot a skunk through the head at 25 yards or a coon at 50 without issue.  I have yet to find a gun that can out perform the 10/22 in these areas, and until I do I will not complain about the redheaded step child of the gun rack.

I have a Savage bolt action that will far out shoot the 10/22 for the same price.  However, there is no way that Savage will become, or could stand up to, the demands of an abused truck gun the Ruger is.
Title: Re: AR15
Post by: kmitch200 on September 30, 2013, 05:03:46 PM
THey are not very accurate in stock form. ( seen tons of stock model 60s out shoot $1000 10/22)  they don't fit me very well.

Make up your mind, is it a $1000 10/22 or a stock one?
If someone put $1k in a 10/22 and it doesn't shoot, someone fooked up that build BAD.

Not many small carbines fit me well either but the 10/22 has so many available aftermarket stocks this is pretty much a non-issue.
My Marlin 1894 fits me like crap.
If it was an autoloader, it would be a non-issue since I wouldn't have to work a lever made for a 10 year olds hand.
 
Title: Re: AR15
Post by: Big Frank on September 30, 2013, 05:27:09 PM
I wasn't planning on hijacking this thread but if a 10/22 stock is too short you can add an inch to it by adding a recoil pad. The stock will fit almost anyone either with the butt pad or without. There more accessories than there are for Barbie, just like there are for the AR15. They're the two most versatile designs I can think of. That's why I think everyone should own at least one of each.
Title: Re: AR15
Post by: DaverZ on October 01, 2013, 05:16:25 PM
Just picked up my nib Smith & Wesson M&P Sporter 5.56 nato and I'm in love  lol.this thing is seriously sweet,cant wait to shoot it.
Title: Re: AR15
Post by: JC5123 on October 01, 2013, 05:33:51 PM
THey are not very accurate in stock form. ( seen tons of stock model 60s out shoot $1000 10/22)   they don't fit me very well.  I don't like the way they feel/ lay out/mags.    every one has one.      there are many better options out there in repaeting 22s.     why would I want a honda civic, when for the same( or less) i could have a lincoln?

You do understand that the SHOOTER has a lot to do with that right? I have seen perfectly tuned bench rifles that couldn't stay on paper when in the hands of an amateur, but put that same rifle in the hands of an expert and you cloverleaf at 600+ yds.
Title: Re: AR15
Post by: TAB on October 01, 2013, 06:01:06 PM
That is not the issue.
Title: Re: AR15
Post by: DanPatWork on October 01, 2013, 09:25:13 PM
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I know there is another place for this but the discussion made me think that TAB should be reminded.

In all honesty, I get the aversion to the 10-22. I have owned many different makes and models of .22 rifles over the years. The 10-22 is definately not my favorite, but neither is my AR with a dedicated .22 upper. The most comfortable .22 I ever fired was a single shot bolt at scout camp. I'm sure the memories are clouded by emotions though. My goto grab a gun .22 is still going to be my 10-22 takedown. This gun is truly a near perfect culmination to the platform. Compact, stainless, packaged with the shoulder pack, and light. Im not sure if they are offering it with a threaded barrel but mine wasn't (My only regret).
The addition of the BX-25 mags puts a plinkers ammo budget at a serious risk too.
Title: Re: AR15
Post by: santahog on October 02, 2013, 02:11:02 AM
Don't mean to partake in the hijacking, but with a nod to the OP, I've never had an AR outside of the Army, and until they came out with a piston operated system, I never really wanted one. Now that they finally came out with a good one, I'm already invested in the AK platform, (with cheaper Wolf AK ammo than Lake City .223) what's the point, for me..
I want the Ruger SR556, but I just can't afford it. (I'm on VA Disability, so I feel your pain on SSDI.)

When I got my first .22 as an adult, one that didn't actually belong to my dad, I bought a Marlin 60 and a 10-22. I got the 10-22 for myself and the Marlin for my grandson. His mother changed her mind on his getting the Marlin so I took it out to play with, and sold the 10-22. Now I've got another Marlin 60 to go with it. (One for each door.) If the things ran on that rotary magazine, I'd like it better. But for me at least, the Marlin is more accurate.

To continue thread drift here..
My wife spotted a snake in the yard as she walked out to go to the mailbox. She told me about it, (finally deciding not to protect some varmint in the yard that I don't want around) and I got to shoot my favorite shotgun in the whole world, (Benelli M-1 Super 90, 20 Ga.) AND the Governor to finish it off..
I LOVE that shotgun!!!!
Title: Re: AR15
Post by: DaverZ on October 02, 2013, 08:33:23 AM
I actually wanted the Colt but I trust S&W and it seems like a good rifle.I want to get more ammo with a reserve,a couple more mags,a mag loader and possibly a sling.It's gonna be a slow process because I'd like to get a case of ammo,500 rounds at least.
Title: Re: AR15
Post by: kmitch200 on October 02, 2013, 02:31:25 PM
Just picked up my nib Smith & Wesson M&P Sporter 5.56 nato and I'm in love  lol.this thing is seriously sweet,cant wait to shoot it

You're going to LOVE it. Now the tweaking begins.
Grip, scope/red dot, trigger, etc., etc.  Probably should get another one!  ;D
Title: Re: AR15
Post by: DaverZ on October 02, 2013, 03:52:12 PM
atm i'm thinking leaving it as is,in the future maybe a red dot.i'm one of those rare soles that likes guns just as they leave the factory sans different grips at times.
Title: Re: AR15
Post by: kmitch200 on October 03, 2013, 12:08:27 AM
There's a reason almost EVERY M4 in use in the sandbox has an optic...and they have young eyes.  ;)

If/when you mount an optic remember that there's no drop on the stock. Scope rings need to be 'extra high' AR models or have a riser so you don't have to scrunch down to get lined up. Scopes have so much eye relief these days, getting them far enough away can mean a cantilever mount. (depends on the scope)
Red dot mounts are pretty much good to go.
I just went with GG&G for the EOtech, throw lever mount (which serves as a riser) and cover. Shop around, deals pop up. 
Title: Re: AR15
Post by: marzie on October 03, 2013, 05:09:16 PM
atm i'm thinking leaving it as is,in the future maybe a red dot.i'm one of those rare soles that likes guns just as they leave the factory sans different grips at times.

IMO, if you do that, you will be missing out on one of the best things about AR's, and that's interchangeability of parts.  Even if you like it in it's stock form (one of my AR's is pretty close to stock, so I can appreciate that) you should still try out a different grip at the very least.  I'm not saying just buy any old grip just because, I'm suggesting you go to a gun show, hold a few different ARs, see what different types of grips and stocks are available.  For example, I use a rubberized Ergo grip on almost all my ARs.  It is very "grippy" and is non-slip even when snowy or wet. I know someone that installed a grip that he can change out the backstrap to fit his hands like a lot of the new striker-fired handguns.  Again, IMO, the grip and the stock is where you can see the biggest difference in an AR for the lowest price and the difficulty level to install is next to nothing (assuming you already have an adjustable stock.) Above and beyond that, look at the different handguards that are out there.  It took me a long time to realize that if I like the way a particular rifle looks or operates, I don't have to buy a new rifle to get that look or feel, I can just modify mine.  Just my $0.02, but to each his own.

ETA: Above all, just go out and shoot the thing! You will know what you like and don't like about it pretty quickly.  Your money right now would probably be best spent on ammo and range time.  If you aren't able to shoot it, than what's the point, right?
Title: Re: AR15
Post by: DaverZ on October 03, 2013, 06:20:39 PM
You're probably,most likely right,I'm going to shoot it and see what develops.This is my first AR.I've been watching u-tube instructions on field stripping and cleaning it,pretty much getting educated in some of the dynamics.