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Member Section => Down Range Cafe => Topic started by: sledgemeister on October 02, 2013, 10:42:57 AM
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Trying to buy a safariland cylone 111 holster is beyond a joke.
They carry no stock here in Australia so I tried to order two from Natchez (one for me and one for a mate) and I just got this email:
Dear Customer,
I have received your internet order. However, as mentioned on our web site under the "International orders" section, the order contains items that I cannot export due to regulations by the factory that makes product or owns the factory that makes the product.
The brands we cannot export are B-Square, Kleen-Bore, Bianchi, Safariland, Leatherman, Trijicon, Streamlight, Leupold, Redfield, Sure-Fire, EOTech, and Motorola.
I have marked the item/s that cannot be shipped on your order below.
Please let me know if you would like the order shipped without the restricted items, if you would like to make changes to the order, or if you would like to cancel the order.
Please let me know if you have any questions.
Thank you,
Mary Jones
I was ordering other items as well. Well they can get stuffed!
I have just replied to cancel the entire order, and companies wonder why they get bad reps and eventually go out of business.
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Have you tried Midway, Brownells or Cabelas? They should be able to help you. If not, post exactly what you want and we'll find it for you.
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Have you tried Midway, Brownells or Cabelas? They should be able to help you. If not, post exactly what you want and we'll find it for you.
all sorted mate thanks anyways.
I spent five mins on ebay and found what I was after and included free shipping.
I also advised natchez :
From: Sledgemeister [mailto:sledgemeister@xxx.xxxx..xx]
Sent: Thursday, 3 October 2013 2:11 AM
To: 'Mary Jones'
Subject: RE: Natchez Order Cancelled - Number 40xxxx9043347411
Thank you for your follow up,
It may be worth mentioning to your suppliers I would have preferred to purchase through your company but due to their draconian business principals I was forced to spend 5 minutes to locate the same items from a supplier off eBay from the US who has no issues in accepting my money and sending to Australia. It seems some businesses will cut of their noses to spite their faces, I guess that’s why China holds most of the US manufacturing industry by its nuts.
All the best.
Robert
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It probably has nothing to do with Natchez. Those companies probably do not have an ITAR agreement. Technically the guy you got the holster from could be arrested or fined for sending it out of the country.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ITAR
I can't talk with a Rolls Royce or BAE rep without documenting it. They are Americans but the company is foriegn owned. By the same laws I'm one of the few in the office that can talk with them at all, as my company has an ITAR exception, where others do not. Providing technical data or equipment to a foriegn government, let alone company, is a PITA, but if you don't follow the rules there is SIGNIFICANT fines or jail time.
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some products made by trijicon can not be exported by law.( same with a few other companys listed) Rather then have a complete list it is easier to just say no products.
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It probably has nothing to do with Natchez. Those companies probably do not have an ITAR agreement. Technically the guy you got the holster from could be arrested or fined for sending it out of the country.
I would suggest you are correct, funny how though you can buy these items through the Aust distributor if you are willing to pay 2x as much and wait 3 months.
From: Mary Jones [mailto:mjones@csiusa.ws]
Sent: Thursday, 3 October 2013 3:02 AM
To: 'Sledgemeister'
Subject: RE: Natchez Order Cancelled - Number 4030109043347411
I understand and agree with you completely. However, I have no control over the companies we purchase our products from here. If I sell these items and I get caught we can loose our distributorship and I can loose my job. Sorry. I am glad you were able to get the items you needed.
Have a great day.
Mary
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I would venture a guess that even if an item can be exported the distributor probably has to have an export license to legally send it overseas.