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Member Section => Politics & RKBA => Topic started by: billt on October 02, 2013, 08:21:40 PM
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20 Obama quotes about Muslims and Christians.
http://thetruthwins.com/archives/20-obama-quotes-about-islam-contrasted-with-20-obama-quotes-about-christianity
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I am still going with See You Next Tuesday
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#5 “Islam has a proud tradition of tolerance.”
(http://ivarfjeld.files.wordpress.com/2009/09/muslim220806_600x400.jpg)
yep real tolerant :-/
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#12 “I’ve said this before, and I know this raises questions in the minds of some evangelicals. I do not believe that my mother, who never formally embraced Christianity as far as I know … I do not believe she went to hell.”
She had him.
She probably got off with time served.
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He's obviously not Christian. I don't think he's committed to Islam, either, myself.. Look at the conduct of his wife.. I think he sees himself as a non-conformist who adopts the lexicon of whatever serves him at the time. I think he's homosexual.
I think he's a weak elitist, choosing socialism because it serves him. I don't think he has the strength of character to be anything of conviction beyond that..
But I don't like him much either..
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He's obviously not Christian. I don't think he's committed to Islam, either, myself.. Look at the conduct of his wife.. I think he sees himself as a non-conformist who adopts the lexicon of whatever serves him at the time. I think he's homosexual.
I think he's a weak elitist, choosing socialism because it serves him. I don't think he has the strength of character to be anything of conviction beyond that..
But I don't like him much either..
I agree with that estimation. Taking it a bit further, its obvious in his formative years that he retains things he learned in the muslim pre-adolescent radicalization camps (Madrassas). His actions and reactions towards others reflects how he was trained. Note I said trained.
For example, see how he bows. That is not an American trait. In the US I grew up in I do not know of Northerners, Southerners, Westerners or Midwesterners who bow to any man.
Another example, see how he bristles up, bully's up, and bluffs whenever anyone challenges his edicts, thoughts, beliefs or desires? Typical muslim interpersonal relationship traits. Period.
As I have experienced, they (muslims) are (are...that's right, from experience) the bully...it's how they are with interpersonal conflicts until a pecking order is established by one or the other so that the weaker one does not challenge the apparently stronger one. So long as they bristle and bluff and the other guy backs down (i.e., pee down the leg RINO's like McCain, Boehner, King, etc.) they are only emboldened and further stiffen for the next encounter. This is not to say some sects will not fight, but to fight only seems to appear if sanctioned by culture or religion and is less an interpersonal disagreement over ideas but more a group disagreement over ideas or actions.
So, how do you eliminate the distasteful bristling, bluffing and bullying....you "punch" him in the nose and establish dominance. See my 2nd paragraph above. Maybe they've changed since I went to college with them in the 70's and 80's and worked with them throughout the 80's and 90's, but I don't think so. Once you back them down in one manner or another they most assuredly will bow in front of you. They may be planning on how to get back on you if there is a moment of weakness on your part, but up front, No Sir, no challenge once you are the established lead sled dog and maintain your position of authority and dominance.
Republicans would do well to take these observations under advisement.
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Rastus,
That's the best evaluation of him I've read yet. Well said.
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I'm actually kind of bored with the debate. Who cares whether he's a Christian or a muslim? The salient point is that he's an incompetent azzhole. I wish I'd never heard the guy's name.
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I'm actually kind of bored with the debate. Who cares whether he's a Christian or a muslim? The salient point is that he's an incompetent azzhole. I wish I'd never heard the guy's name.
In this case I seem to find myself with FQ on this one. I really don't care what religion or ethnicity he may or may not be. I can only judge what he is doing. Right now he is driving us off the cliff. Glenn Beck is using the term that BHO is "shoving back." Is he engineering a confrontation? If he is, why? What will he do if there is a shove back?
Here is the ObamaCare tollfree number 800-318-2596 or 1-800-F1U-CKYO (F1UCK-YO) - an accident?
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Some of you have doubts ?
How many freaking Christians do you know who celebrate Ramadan ?
http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2011/08/01/president-obama-marks-ramadan/
August 1st, 2011
http://www.startribune.com/local/yourvoices/166674056.html
President Obama's Message on the Occasion of Eid-al-Fitr
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/08/10/huma-abedin-obama-ramadan_n_1766550.html
08/11/2012
Huma Abedin Praised By President Obama As 'American Patriot' At Ramadan Dinner
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Some of you have doubts ?
How many freaking Christians do you know who celebrate Ramadan ?
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You may well be right. I know a lot of non-Believers who celebrate Christmas and Easter. Maybe it's the same kind of thing.
At any rate, he is a tool.
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I'm actually kind of bored with the debate. Who cares whether he's a Christian or a muslim? The salient point is that he's an incompetent azzhole. I wish I'd never heard the guy's name.
It matters because we have been at war with Islamic fanatics for 12 years.
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It matters because we have been at war with Islamic fanatics for 12 years.
Yes, and any information you can gain about how your enemy is likely to react is valuable. The better you understand your foes, the better equipped you are to deal them them
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I don't know if he's Christian or muslim......... but based on what I've seen and heard out of him over the last few years, I'm pretty reasonably sure he's an arrogant ass.
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Yes, and any information you can gain about how your enemy is likely to react is valuable. The better you understand your foes, the better equipped you are to deal them them
True, but letting the enemy run your defense isn't such a good idea.
The frigging guy has run air strikes in support of terrorists in Libya, and wanted to go to war in Syria to support Al Qaeda.
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True, but letting the enemy run your defense isn't such a good idea.
The frigging guy has run air strikes in support of terrorists in Libya, and wanted to go to war in Syria to support Al Qaeda.
Yeah....I sure wasn't recommending that the way to study your enemy was to give him the Keys to the Kingdom.
And there are still hordes of true believers who would vote for him again if possible...boggles the mind.
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I don't think the guy has a religion. I think anyone that narcissistic is incapable of believing in any power higher than himself. He's just a Marxist despot wannabe who lucked his way into a position that was way out of his league.
Glenn Beck is using the term that BHO is "shoving back." Is he engineering a confrontation? If he is, why? What will he do if there is a shove back?
I don't think he's shoving back, per se. I agree with Rastus in that he's posturing. He's bullying and not looking for a confrontation so much as looking for submission by his "enemies." I don't think he's clever enough to engineer a confrontation that he could use to declare martial law. I've been wrong before, though.
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I don't think the guy has a religion. I think anyone that narcissistic is incapable of believing in any power higher than himself. He's just a Marxist despot wannabe who lucked his way into a position that was way out of his league.
I don't think he's shoving back, per se. I agree with Rastus in that he's posturing. He's bullying and not looking for a confrontation so much as looking for submission by his "enemies." I don't think he's clever enough to engineer a confrontation that he could use to declare martial law. I've been wrong before, though.
Don't underestimate the POS. True, every thing he does turns out wrong for the country, the economy and the citizens.
He would be stupid if that wasn't his plan.
The more he drags the country down, the better his plan is working.
My call is he will build to a confrontation, near the end of his term, and if We The People don't cave, he will declare martial law, suspend elections and keep stirring the pot.
If we do cave, it's on to bigger and better destruction of the country.
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Don't underestimate the POS. True, every thing he does turns out wrong for the country, the economy and the citizens.
He would be stupid if that wasn't his plan.
The more he drags the country down, the better his plan is working.
My call is he will build to a confrontation, near the end of his term, and if We The People don't cave, he will declare martial law, suspend elections and keep stirring the pot.
If we do cave, it's on to bigger and better destruction of the country.
I don't know Solus. Jimmy carter was plenty smart, I mean hell he had a grad degree in nuclear physics and they don't hand those out at the door. And yet, he screwed up everything he touched. No plan, just incompetence. Put him in charge of a submarine or a small state and he was fine. Give him the whole country and he was pants at it. Its the Peter Principle. People are promoted to the level of their incompetence. BO and Carter are perfect illustrations. Smart guys who are like small school college coaches trying trying to run an NFL team. No way that ends pretty.
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I don't know Solus. Jimmy carter was plenty smart, I mean hell he had a grad degree in nuclear physics and they don't hand those out at the door. And yet, he screwed up everything he touched. No plan, just incompetence. Put him in charge of a submarine or a small state and he was fine. Give him the whole country and he was pants at it. Its the Peter Principle. People are promoted to the level of their incompetence. BO and Carter are perfect illustrations. Smart guys who are like small school college coaches trying trying to run an NFL team. No way that ends pretty.
FQ, do you realize you just described most of the NAZI Govt ?
Excellent NCO's and middle managers given the top jobs.
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I don't know Solus. Jimmy carter was plenty smart, I mean hell he had a grad degree in nuclear physics and they don't hand those out at the door. And yet, he screwed up everything he touched. No plan, just incompetence. Put him in charge of a submarine or a small state and he was fine. Give him the whole country and he was pants at it. Its the Peter Principle. People are promoted to the level of their incompetence. BO and Carter are perfect illustrations. Smart guys who are like small school college coaches trying trying to run an NFL team. No way that ends pretty.
So you really think BO is trying his best to make the country the best it can be? A beacon of success for the world to see?...and that he is just so out of his depth he keeps screwing it up and, instead, is tearing it down on many fronts all at once my mistake?
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FQ, do you realize you just described most of the NAZI Govt ?
Excellent NCO's and middle managers given the top jobs.
Pretty much any government or corporation. If people do well at their job they are promoted, until they finally find themselves in a position that is beyond their ability and then they get fired (or the Russians invade ;D). We were smart enough to fire Carter in 1980, I have no clue what the hell happened in '08, but I will say in fairness that I doubt Romney would have seen a second term had he won.
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So you really think BO is trying his best to make the country the best it can be? A beacon of success for the world to see?...and that he is just so out of his depth he keeps screwing it up and, instead, is tearing it down on many fronts all at once my mistake?
Yep, pretty much. He believes in multi lateralism and International Law just like Tony Blair and all the rest of the neo-libs and he thinks FDRs New Deal was the cat's arse. He sees Obamacare as our generation's Social Security and his legacy that will get him squeezed onto Mt. Rushmore. He wants to leagalize illegal immigrants both because he buys the moral/emotional arguments, and because he knows that if he succeeds the Dems will own non-Cuban latinos the way they do blacks. I think that is motive enough right there.
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Don't underestimate the POS. True, every thing he does turns out wrong for the country, the economy and the citizens.
He would be stupid if that wasn't his plan.
The more he drags the country down, the better his plan is working.
My call is he will build to a confrontation, near the end of his term, and if We The People don't cave, he will declare martial law, suspend elections and keep stirring the pot.
If we do cave, it's on to bigger and better destruction of the country.
Don't get me wrong. I think he's trying to downsize our country. But in his head, that's what is best for America. The peasant class in this country has too much, uses too much electricity, and this country is shamefully powerful and prosperous. We only have what we have because we stole it from the brown people of the world. It is his responsibility to bring social justice. That is what is best for America, because that is what is best for the world, and America needs to be humbled before the poor, oppressed peoples of the world that we have intentionally and enthusiastically held down since 1776.
Of course, the political class won't suffer any, and should probably get more benefits, since they're doing the Lord's work.
I just don't think he's looking for a fight doing it. He expects everyone to be so amazed with how smart and wonderful he is that they don't argue.
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Don't get me wrong. I think he's trying to downsize our country. But in his head, that's what is best for America. The peasant class in this country has too much, uses too much electricity, and this country is shamefully powerful and prosperous. We only have what we have because we stole it from the brown people of the world. It is his responsibility to bring social justice. That is what is best for America, because that is what is best for the world, and America needs to be humbled before the poor, oppressed peoples of the world that we have intentionally and enthusiastically held down since 1776.
Of course, the political class won't suffer any, and should probably get more benefits, since they're doing the Lord's work.
I just don't think he's looking for a fight doing it. He expects everyone to be so amazed with how smart and wonderful he is that they don't argue.
Any "American" who actually believes that should be hung or exiled.
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Of course, the political class won't suffer any, and should probably get more benefits, since they're doing the Lord's work.
I just don't think he's looking for a fight doing it. He expects everyone to be so amazed with how smart and wonderful he is that they don't argue.
I'm surprised the political class even bothers to talk to us peons anymore. They know that a growing percentage isn't buying the bullshit.
Thieves don't look for a fight when they're stealing, they just want the money as easy as possible.
Their hired thugs on the other hand....