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Title: Taurus Millenium Pro ?
Post by: Frosty on May 26, 2008, 07:46:00 PM
Got a chance to buy a Tauraus Millenium Pro  9mm or .45 (another decision to make) Can anyone tell me good/bad or indifferant about Taurus pistols ???  I am thinking of using it for everyday CCW when I'm not packing my M&P 45, I have a Beretta 9mm that I also carry but both these guns are full size and I'm looking for a 3" for CCW in warmer weather. The price seems right $370.  I am leaning more towards the 9mm just from the idea of the .45 is like the energizer bunny - it keeps going, now I do have 230g JHP's in the .45 when I carry it but it still makes me wonder - how far will they go?  Any help in making my choice would be greatly appreciated.
Has anyone seen the Taurus JUDGE? Pretty amazing I looked it, it's going for $530 but most likely will not. Thanks folks great site!
Title: Re: Taurus Millennium Pro ?
Post by: 2HOW on May 26, 2008, 07:52:29 PM
I have 1 in .40 go for the .45 great pistol, small break in period on a new one, but flawless and very concealable.
Title: Re: Taurus Millenium Pro ?
Post by: Galeth005 on May 26, 2008, 08:20:30 PM
i have the 24/7 pro 3" in .40 very nice gun, i was going to get the millenium but they sold it before i could and i didnt want to wait a week for it... its slightly more money but truthfully i think its a more comfortable gun with more options.  either way i think taurus is a pretty good gun either wheel or semi
Title: Re: Taurus Millenium Pro ?
Post by: Dharmaeye on May 26, 2008, 08:24:27 PM
I have the PT145. Long but light trigger pull. Good accuracy and 10 round magazine make it potent package.
185 grain ammo probably best due to short barrel (3 1/4 inch). Except for one bad primer round (Wolf), it is reliable.
Want to keep it. :)
Title: Re: Taurus Millenium Pro ?
Post by: tombogan03884 on May 26, 2008, 08:58:11 PM
Freind of mine has a Pro 9mm he has had No problems. Dharmaeye is right about the trigger, nice for a DAO but if your use to SA you might not like it, but it IS SMOOTH. Decent pistol
Title: Re: Taurus Millenium Pro ?
Post by: Frosty on May 26, 2008, 09:25:15 PM
Thanks for all the info. regarding the Taurus Pro ....... I just need to narrow it down 9mm or .45. As I said I have both 9mm & .45 right now but I'm concerned with the penetration of the .45 as I carry in places where there are numerous people/public places, plus it's a bit less expensive to blast away with the 9mm to stay keen. Again Thanks  ;)
Title: Re: Taurus Millenium Pro ?
Post by: Jkwas on May 27, 2008, 08:48:34 AM
I have the 2nd generation 9mm Pt111 DAO which has been flawless in over 1000 rnds of shooting by me and several others. It is a great shooting gun..... Period!
Title: Re: Taurus Millenium Pro ?
Post by: Frosty on May 28, 2008, 11:10:29 PM
Brought home the PT145 PRO 3" yesterday from the toy store and sent lead down range today ;D. Must say I was pleasently suprised with the way it shot and I really liked the trigger. I think I'll keep this little bugger, handled alot better than I thought it would. Thanks for all your input
Title: Re: Taurus Millenium Pro ?
Post by: OldGuy on May 29, 2008, 12:55:11 PM
I bought the PT145 a couple of months ago and like it a lot. Mine has the DA/SA trigger with a real clean break in SA. Not a bad pull in DA either. I think you made the right choice. If you're concerned about penetration try hollow points.
Title: Re: Taurus Millenium Pro ?
Post by: Frosty on May 29, 2008, 02:24:58 PM
Yes I really do like the pull on the DA/SA trigger and do really enjoy the PT145 and think I'll like it even more as time goes by. I have no problem when it comes to concealing for carry which is nice.. I practice with 230g FMJ's & a few JHP's but carry with all JHP's. I still wonder about penetration though ???
Title: Re: Taurus Millenium Pro ?
Post by: jaybet on May 29, 2008, 03:26:43 PM
Yes I really do like the pull on the DA/SA trigger and do really enjoy the PT145 and think I'll like it even more as time goes by. I have no problem when it comes to concealing for carry which is nice.. I practice with 230g FMJ's & a few JHP's but carry with all JHP's. I still wonder about penetration though ???
I'm not an expert, and anybody please feel free to jump in if I'm way off base, but it's been my impression that you have more overpenetration problem with a 9mm than with a .45. The velocity of the .45 is slower and the round is bigger. I had read one article that was suggesting that 45 hollowpoints could actually UNDER penetrate. I don't know how valid that suggestion is, but your concerns about over penetration are valid. I don't have the statistics vs hollow point, but I've been using defense loads in the EFMJ- expanding jacket, which doesn't fall under the same legal restrications as HP here in NJ. They flatten out with impact and I can't imaging they would pass through a bad guy and out the window or through the wall.
Title: Re: Taurus Millenium Pro ?
Post by: Galeth005 on May 29, 2008, 04:23:26 PM
I'm not an expert, and anybody please feel free to jump in if I'm way off base, but it's been my impression that you have more overpenetration problem with a 9mm than with a .45. The velocity of the .45 is slower and the round is bigger. I had read one article that was suggesting that 45 hollowpoints could actually UNDER penetrate. I don't know how valid that suggestion is, but your concerns about over penetration are valid. I don't have the statistics vs hollow point, but I've been using defense loads in the EFMJ- expanding jacket, which doesn't fall under the same legal restrications as HP here in NJ. They flatten out with impact and I can't imaging they would pass through a bad guy and out the window or through the wall.
i've heard that before too, but unless u are firing really horrible reloads i dont htink u will have a problem with .45 as far as under penetration
Title: Re: Taurus Millenium Pro ?
Post by: Jkwas on May 30, 2008, 08:17:58 AM
I don't worry about overpentrating a bad guy in my house as much as I worry missing and shooting through

several walls in my house.  I used to keep a 9mm on my nightstand, but now I keep the 38spl with me at night.

I surmise, right or wrong, that the lower velocity round will do it's job as long as I do mine.

I've considered the .45 as well for the same reason, but fiscal responsibility got the best of me.  ::)
Title: Re: Taurus Millenium Pro ?
Post by: jaybet on May 30, 2008, 10:05:40 AM
I don't worry about overpentrating a bad guy in my house as much as I worry missing and shooting through

several walls in my house.  I used to keep a 9mm on my nightstand, but now I keep the 38spl with me at night.

I surmise, right or wrong, that the lower velocity round will do it's job as long as I do mine.

I've considered the .45 as well for the same reason, but fiscal responsibility got the best of me.  ::)
That's what I'm thinking too, except that when it comes to home defense I'll spend the money for the big ol' 45. My wife keeps a 38 when I'm out, but given my choice I go with the 45.
Title: Re: Taurus Millenium Pro ?
Post by: Galeth005 on May 30, 2008, 03:01:44 PM
i sleep with a .38 in the night stand, my dad had a .357 under his pillow for his entire life... my older brother just got a .357 and my younger brother swears by 9mm
Title: Re: Taurus Millenium Pro ?
Post by: 2HOW on May 30, 2008, 06:49:16 PM
I seriously doubt over penetration is a problem in any round using the newer hollow points and EFMJ . Ball ammo may get you in and out. Im more worried about enough penetration. I wanna get to thet CNS and that good stuff.
Title: Re: Taurus Millenium Pro ?
Post by: tombogan03884 on May 30, 2008, 09:59:00 PM
I seriously doubt over penetration is a problem in any round using the newer hollow points and EFMJ . Ball ammo may get you in and out. Im more worried about enough penetration. I wanna get to thet CNS and that good stuff.

Thats fine if you NEVER miss.
Title: Re: Taurus Millenium Pro ?
Post by: Galeth005 on May 30, 2008, 10:18:37 PM
I seriously doubt over penetration is a problem in any round using the newer hollow points and EFMJ . Ball ammo may get you in and out. Im more worried about enough penetration. I wanna get to thet CNS and that good stuff.

i actualy would prefer to shoot them in the circulatory system or the respiratory system, but i'm a center mass sort of a guy
Title: Re: Taurus Millenium Pro ?
Post by: Mr.45 on May 30, 2008, 10:44:25 PM
I carry on occasion a SW99 as well as my Taurus 145 and I feel that overpenetration is a trait of just about any ball ammo. Heck my FIE Titan II in .32acp penetraites just as much or in some cases more than my .45's. Having a CCH license is a great responsibility and unfortunately the miss is a miss with any caliber and hopefully the ammo you choose whether it be hollow point of frangible does its job and does'nt ricochet or over penetrate barriers. I use Winchester rangers in both but I do not reccomend them if over penetration or barriers are a problem in your everyday carry.