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Title: now this is my kind of boat...
Post by: TAB on December 04, 2013, 07:55:53 PM
http://orangecounty.craigslist.org/boa/4221194827.html
Title: Re: now this is my kind of boat...
Post by: Ulmus on December 04, 2013, 08:30:12 PM
Nice, but I prefer the baby bootlegger (Number G 5).

(http://robbreport.com/sites/default/files/styles/8col/public/images/articles/2012Jun/25551//p17ts6es5l763ovuc9l1b171murc.jpg?itok=A_5yfoJR)
Title: Re: now this is my kind of boat...
Post by: TAB on December 04, 2013, 08:35:57 PM
yeah, but that one has 2 places to screw,    ;D   i really think it would be a great tahoe boat.
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Post by: ellis4538 on December 05, 2013, 09:48:19 AM
TAB,

If you get it post, in use, pictures!

Richard
Title: Re: now this is my kind of boat...
Post by: TAB on December 05, 2013, 10:13:13 AM
Its about 1300 miles away, i don't have the $, and it would cost a fortune in diesel to drive down there and back.   i can get 17-18 mpg empty at 55,  65 is maybe 14.   it would be about 10 mpg towing.
Title: Re: now this is my kind of boat...
Post by: Ulmus on December 05, 2013, 03:30:05 PM
What about having it shipped?

PS:  I see the merits of your choice.   ;)
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Post by: MikeBjerum on December 06, 2013, 05:59:08 PM
The description of twin 350's sounded ok, the photo with quadrajets made me say you bethca, and then I saw they are rated at 260.  WTF?!?!?!
That ain't no cigar boat!  Get some power in there and call me back.
Title: Re: now this is my kind of boat...
Post by: TAB on December 06, 2013, 06:06:43 PM
THose boats were never ment for speed and its not a "cigar" style boat.  260 form a 350 in a boat with an alpha drive is standard.   remember boat motors take alot more abuse then your car does.    anything more then 300 on those drives and your asking for trouble.  ask me how i know.  Buidling a 350 hp 350 is not cheap, about $7000   by the time you add exhuast carb and rebuild.   with high quality parts that will last hundreds of hours 10k  is closer.   
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Post by: MikeBjerum on December 06, 2013, 06:23:00 PM
TAB,

I spent my youth near Lake Mead.  I know how to build boats for power and speed.  Brought that knowledge back here and helped a few ski friends. 

It is about torque!

You want a boat to go?  454!  500hp without ruining driveability or longivity, and torque curve climbs right with it.  Torque turns those big steep screws, and you dance on the surface while the horses do their job  ;D

We used to pull the jets off boats, glass the transom, and put in direct drive shaft and rudders.  454 with a dual quad tunnel and inverted headers.  That is what you call a River Rat!  Today the guys are adding nitrous for the hole shot, but nothing else has changed.

And by the way, the ad is trying to claim cigar style.  That's craigslist:  Suckers love it. 
Title: Re: now this is my kind of boat...
Post by: Timothy on December 06, 2013, 06:47:43 PM
You may remind the lad, M58...

Water skiing was invented in a town in Minnesota south of Red Wing...  Lake Pepin I believe...technically a little, wide area of the Mississippi...  The east and west coast ain't got nothing on the boating industry of the Midwest... 

Gear heads make things go fast with little regard for anything other than speed...dirt, pavement, water, snow, ice, mud, cow shit...etc..

 ;D
Title: Re: now this is my kind of boat...
Post by: TAB on December 06, 2013, 06:52:37 PM
having buit a k boat, countless vdrives, jets, and ran just about every tunnel uner 21' with an out board.  Most people have no idea what it takes or costs to own a 100 mph boat.    500 hp is cheap, making it live not so much.    just like every thing else.  Good, fast, cheap.  Pick 2.
Title: Re: now this is my kind of boat...
Post by: MikeBjerum on December 06, 2013, 07:10:35 PM
Good, fast and cheap, three for three!

100 mph boat on a budget, ain't no different than building a street rod/bracket racer, or building sprint cars.  A good sturdy tree with a chain hoist, or a friend who's younger sister still has a swing set in backyard.

We built them all the same.  Know what you need, know what you want, some trial and error, and always go with choices that are readily available in the wrecking yard!  Blow an engine on Central on Friday night, and be back out there on Saturday night  ;D
Title: Re: now this is my kind of boat...
Post by: Timothy on December 06, 2013, 07:54:23 PM
Building power with your hands and brain is a hell of a lot harder than buying power from a catalog...

Just sayin'...
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Post by: MikeBjerum on December 06, 2013, 08:14:28 PM
Timothy,

There are a lot of rodders, out there who think it is all about chips.  They may go as far as a blue bottle.  I can't believe the numbers who expect big gains from bigger tubes, and they run it all through the same restricted pinch points and catcons.

Put your keyboard down and figure out what that exhaust smell means; what if I go with this jet or that; try a hotter thermostat ... oooops, where is that cold one; maybe I open the point gap and this advance, or do I retard and and increase dwell; springs and weights in the distributor (damn do I wish they had invented zip lock bags when I was at my height of this); cam timing; and what about those head gaskets this time.

I remember the old guys looking at us and shaking their heads.  I'd love to sit down with them and compare how similar we were compared to today when the hottest guy on the strip doesn't use a wrench.

TAB, what will a vacuum switch and your windshield washer do for you?
Title: Re: now this is my kind of boat...
Post by: Timothy on December 06, 2013, 08:48:20 PM
Timothy,

There are a lot of rodders, out there who think it is all about chips.  They may go as far as a blue bottle.  I can't believe the numbers who expect big gains from bigger tubes, and they run it all through the same restricted pinch points and catcons.

Put your keyboard down and figure out what that exhaust smell means; what if I go with this jet or that; try a hotter thermostat ... oooops, where is that cold one; maybe I open the point gap and this advance, or do I retard and and increase dwell; springs and weights in the distributor (damn do I wish they had invented zip lock bags when I was at my height of this); cam timing; and what about those head gaskets this time.

I remember the old guys looking at us and shaking their heads.  I'd love to sit down with them and compare how similar we were compared to today when the hottest guy on the strip doesn't use a wrench.

TAB, what will a vacuum switch and your windshield washer do for you?

My point, exactly...

I got a good whipping when my Pop found me in a sea of lawnmower parts when I was about nine!  Had to put it back together in a hurry and it ran for another five years or so...   ;D

Damn to I miss wrenching on stuff...
Title: Re: now this is my kind of boat...
Post by: Big Frank on December 07, 2013, 02:01:35 PM
Buy a Chinese all terrain vehicle. You'll be wrenching all the time.
Title: Re: now this is my kind of boat...
Post by: TAB on December 07, 2013, 02:05:41 PM
if i wanted to wrench on something all the time i would buy a porsche with mechanical fuel inject.  Lol
Title: Re: now this is my kind of boat...
Post by: MikeBjerum on December 07, 2013, 02:13:37 PM
If you don't want to wrench you aren't a rodder
Title: Re: now this is my kind of boat...
Post by: Timothy on December 07, 2013, 03:28:04 PM
I've got to rebuild a snow blower soon, give me something to do...

Ain't much I can't bring back to life..
Title: Re: now this is my kind of boat...
Post by: TAB on December 07, 2013, 03:37:51 PM
If you don't want to wrench you aren't a rodder


wrench to up grade is one thing, wrench to fix shit that breaks all the time sucks.
Title: Re: now this is my kind of boat...
Post by: MikeBjerum on December 07, 2013, 04:43:34 PM
TAB,

Your comments show you ain't about real speed!  We wrench because there is always one more thing to get.  There is one more what if.  And, running is like tightening bolts - Rev it till it blows, and set the redline 50 rpm lower  ;D

When you finish with question #1, here is question #2:  What is the little piece of bailing wire running up the handles or through the dash on anything with a small engine?