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Member Section => Down Range Cafe => Topic started by: PegLeg45 on December 10, 2013, 04:17:05 PM
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This is about more than gay marriage, it is more about hypocrisy, and far-reaching implications for future showdowns between church and state.......
The same argument the gay community uses to promote their cause, "freedom of expression...freedom of choice" now serves as the double standard when a baker refused to bake a wedding cake for a gay couple in Colorado.....resulting in a judge forcing him to bake the cake. (same thing happened in Oregon, I believe, to a photographer).
http://abcnews.go.com/US/judge-orders-colorado-bakery-cater-sex-weddings/story?id=21136505
Judge Orders Colorado Bakery to Cater for Same-Sex Weddings
http://themattwalshblog.com/2013/12/10/next-up-force-the-churches-to-perform-gay-weddings/
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That whole situation has me vapor locked. Trust me when I say that Colorado isn't the same ever since the liberal/socialist picnickers & dick lickers came here from Commifornia. This friday the 13th there is a fund raiser at this guys bakery to help raise funds for an appeal. SOOOO when I get of duty I'll just have to stop by on my way home & assist in his endeavor to appeal the f**kin asshat judges decision.
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The loony left cannot see the hypocrisy in this.
To them, compromise means only "do it my way."
Logic is no longer logical.
Right is no longer right.
Morality is subject to decisions of the moment and has nothing to do with what is actually moral.
We are well and truly down the rabbit hole, my friends.
I weep as I watch my nation racing to be first on the road to Hell.
Crusader Rabbit
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That judge is an idiot. he does not want to make the cake, he does not have too.
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If I had to make the cake I would put a little bride and groom on it. They can change themselves it after they buy it.
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i would close my shop. Find a slim ball lawyer and go after the agency the judge works for.( can't go after him, :( )
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Only reason I can see why the baker should be forced to make the cake is if he agreed to it and accepted a down payment before he knew the couple was gay. There might be a case of a broken contract there.
If, also, there was not reasonable time to find another provider before the wedding, that might add to the case...but if there was time to go before a judge, it would seem there was time to find an alternate provider.
As a compromise, I might suggest that the couple find another baker and the original baker make up any difference in price. If that is not acceptable to the original baker...and I would doubt it would be, then HE can find the alternate baker of the same quality and keep or make up the difference....of course this is IF the baker accepted the job before hand.
If the baker declined to fill the order from the get go, there should not even be a consideration of him being required to make that cake.
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Don't know about the rest of you but I'd never send food back to the kitchen in a restaurant for various reasons. One of which stems from the fact that I've worked in a restaurant in the past. Lord knows what is coming back on your steak!
Why on earth would one chose to eat the cake of a baker who was forced, under duress, to produce the aforementioned confection?
Pissing in the batter, snot rockets in the frosting.... the list goes on...
;D
caveat emptor....
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Don't know about the rest of you but I'd never send food back to the kitchen in a restaurant for various reasons. One of which stems from the fact that I've worked in a restaurant in the past. Lord knows what is coming back on your steak!
Why on earth would one chose to eat the cake of a baker who was forced, under duress, to produce the aforementioned confection?
Pissing in the batter, snot rockets in the frosting.... the list goes on...
;D
caveat emptor....
Interesting ammonia flavor and unique green confetti :-\
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Only reason I can see why the baker should be forced to make the cake is if he agreed to it and accepted a down payment before he knew the couple was gay. There might be a case of a broken contract there.
If, also, there was not reasonable time to find another provider before the wedding, that might add to the case...but if there was time to go before a judge, it would seem there was time to find an alternate provider.
As a compromise, I might suggest that the couple find another baker and the original baker make up any difference in price. If that is not acceptable to the original baker...and I would doubt it would be, then HE can find the alternate baker of the same quality and keep or make up the difference....of course this is IF the baker accepted the job before hand.
If the baker declined to fill the order from the get go, there should not even be a consideration of him being required to make that cake.
even if he did break the contract, he would not be liable for much, at most the value of the contract and some court costs.
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TAB,
Remember that they are a protected class, and that means huge penalties for hurting their feelings.
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Since when did business owners lose the right to refuse service ?
I'd take the contempt charge for telling the Judge to make the f*cking cake himself.
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TAB,
Remember that they are a protected class, and that means huge penalties for hurting their feelings.
yes and no, at worst its a contract issue. that is unless he said or did something really stupid...
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Since when did business owners lose the right to refuse service ?
I'd take the contempt charge for telling the Judge to make the f*cking cake himself.
The first sentence it's like you were reading my mind. The second not so much.
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another angle that may come about is the baker saying gay merriage is a not valid in the eyes of his faith and its a very grave sin. i would love to throw that one back at the judge. me personally, i could care less about who or what your screwing or what you want to get hitched too, as long as you are adults, consint and are not throwing it in my face. Do what you want, the second it envoles me or my money, then i have a say. If it doesn't who cares.
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yes and no, at worst its a contract issue. that is unless he said or did something really stupid...
Sorry TAB, but our "leaders" have determined that sexual orientation is a protected right. All someone needs to do is tell you they are gay and if you react in a negative fashion to anything concerning them it becomes discrimination.
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yet gay men can never give blood. even if it as only one time. ever. even if you had only one sex partner your entire life, yet ron jeremey could give blood... there is so much double standard bs on both sides of the gay argument its not even funny.