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Member Section => Down Range Cafe => Topic started by: TAB on January 02, 2014, 04:12:33 PM
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so i have been thinking for awhile about getting a dash cam. for $200 you can get a good one and for $300 you can get one that does hd and can tape in total darkness. I am looking mainly to change it from a he said she said if there was a wreck, but protecting myself from a overzealous leo is useful as well.( you never know) Or has no fualt insurance, but it would be nice to be able to prove it was not my fualt. They are double sided so you can watch a teen or even maybe catch a car theif. Would you install one?
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More than likely NO
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How quickly can they be irrecoverably erased?
If the government wanted to make them a mandatory piece of equipment, I fight it tooth and nail....so not sure I'd want one installed unless I had that complete control over the contents being viewed.
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i am sure they are all ssd drives so should not be hars to erase them. if they were required i would fight too, but with the ass holes on the road now, it can save your butt.
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I hear that they are very popular in Russia (that's why you see so many videos from there) to protect the user from "accident" scams and the cops strong-arming them.
Not sure what keeps the po-po from just taking the cameras tho...
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taking the camera does not always get the recorder... i would assume they have simlar laws there and don't look kindly to popos stealing stuff and destorying evidence, atleast not being cuaght at it. many of these things are blue tooth, so they could even be streamed some place( in the car or other places by mobile device)
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No, I would not put one in.
No need to record more of my everyday life than is already tracked through the internet, cellphone, and vehicle computers. All of that said, with the things they are building into cars already cameras will be a part of it before you know it.
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New cars already do record stuff, and even limit/ control imputs and functions. some times thats for the better(safety, drivabilty) like abs and traction control. Some things are bad. i have been hit(never been at fualt) 19 times in my life, have metal in my spine. I have been sued by people that said i damaged their cars, so anything i can do to protect myself is not a bad thing.
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Living and driving on ice 11.5 months per year ... OK, it is only six month per year, but we deal with other slippery crap another three months, you can have your traction control and abs.
They are nothing more than tits on a boar.
The more I see people relying on the proximity alarms the more it scares me. What ever happened to learning how to handle the two tons of metal you are piloting?
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2 tons, what are you driving a compact? Lol the prox things scare me, my dad has them and they are messed up atleast every 6 months, had it at the dealer 4 times, even the dealer does not fix them, they send it to a shop that just does them or they come to the shop. the parrell parking aids are even worse. don't get me wrong, i don't like electronincs, but over all they have made cars "better" a whole lot harder to work on and cost a lot more, but the only reason new cars get the milage they do, is computers. they are safer too, even though they are lighter and not near as strong. My last 1 ton was almost 1000 lbs lighter then the 1 ton i had before it.
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No cams for me. The last crash I had was my fault anyway. Lots of witnesses.
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my last i got hit and ran with no wittnesses and only the 1st to of the plate. I could have used it that day. Cost me $2500 to fix it, or $500 deductable and they jack my rate for years(funny how they can do that if its not your fualt.)
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Hi;
I would install 1 if things got really bad in my future. I would like to have 1 in my company truck to cover my butt. They have in the past shown how people can be abused by police, and then may hang you - should you be the aggressor.
The difference in State to State laws causes conflicts when driving.
The people who think they can do as they please is rising and sooner or later results in accidents.
A ma duece on the top of my company truck with plenty of ammo would be nice - if I could only talk my boss into it , but then he wants 1 for his beamer.....When people call him about his drivers - he just asks where the caller lives ( State ) and usually says "Thank You for calling "... he deals with those sort of people on the road himself, and bitches about them.
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Two tons is being generous. I think our Impala tips the scales around 3k. The Malibu was well under 3k. An extended cab, short box, 4wd with V8 is hard pressed to make 5k any more. Even a semi with 53' dry van is hard pressed to make 35k any more.
All of this dieting has its advantages in some areas, but it also has negatives.
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Yep, the new cars have better motors and trannys, but the rest just falls apart quick. the body and interior is what i notice the most. Wiring is another, but that is always the issue after X years. Just a lot more of it in new cars.
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Sorry, but you can have the engines and transmissions as well. Dollar for dollar and reliability level, I will take an 80's any day over the current stuff. The electronic gadget crowd has taken over the automotive industry.
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I have one and like it and you would be surprised what you might have missed when you play the tape back. I have a cheap one and it works for me and I don't plug it in all the time. ;)
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The electronic gadget crowd has taken over the automotive industry.
THANK GOD!!!
Never having to set dwell or gap points, spark plugs that go 100k miles, better mileage and more power with less cubic inches? Fuel injection that runs better at all altitudes than any carb? And if you want to be a tuner, a computer analyzer that tells you EXACTLY down the gnats azz what the engine is doing and when? Plus a computer that adjusts the timing to avoid knock if I buy shitty gas?
Hell yeah!
Welcome to the 21st century. ;)
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Something similar was installed in every front line vehicle driven at Waste Management not in supervisory or management vehicles. Originally intended for use in 'coaching' of driving habits, the camera's quickly became a disciplinary and in cab observation tool. Drinking coffee or a soda, eating a candy bar or snack became a reason for a three day unpaid vacation. The above is the reason the site I used to work at has a high turnover rate, and 40% of the drivers are new hires. That's really good for safety.
If said camera's are forward looking only, maybe. I'll not be monitored for the amusement of management or some functionary at an insurance company.
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Nope, not a chance...
Pretty easy to prove you're speeding, rolling stops, tailgating, et. al. with a camera pointed anywhere but straight up...
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if your not doing those things, you have nothing to worry about. We all do stupid things behind the wheel at some point, but there are those that do them all the time, which is why the camera intrests me. something else that could be useful, is if you encounter a drunk on the road and are fallowing them( always fallow) while on the phone with the police. You could be recording things. You never know whos life you might save by doing that. yeah it sucks to be a narc, but when you doing something dumb puts others at risk, i don't feel bad about it.
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if your not doing those things, you have nothing to worry about. We all do stupid things behind the wheel at some point, but there are those that do them all the time, which is why the camera intrests me. something else that could be useful, is if you encounter a drunk on the road and are fallowing them( always fallow) while on the phone with the police. You could be recording things. You never know whos life you might save by doing that. yeah it sucks to be a narc, but when you doing something dumb puts others at risk, i don't feel bad about it.
I have sped, kinda hard not too.... I don't roll through stop signs and never tailgate...one of my pet peeves....
I've called the local PD while following an intoxicated person on more than one occasion with the appreciation of the local PD. I don't consider myself "narc-ing" on anyone. Once, more than one motorist cornered a drunken women into a parking lot until the local PD showed up to arrest the drunken dumbass...
Still won't mount a dash cam...never will! I'm no saint but anything you do to find fault in someone else will eventually come back to bite you in the ass!
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it can, but in court its nice to have a video. :)
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TAB,
Why are you on the phone while following (not how we spell follow in the United States) the drunk driver? It has been proven that talking on a phone, even with hands free, is the same as driving impaired due to substance use. Your camera and phone conversation just put you in the same boat as the guy you were following.